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100% agree. On a recent trip, where I didn't have to do any "work" work, I realized I no longer needed to tote my MacBook around. I used my iPad the entire time. Chilling in bed with Netflix, trolling forums, etc. I actually didn't even turn on the TV once in the hotel room, on a 5 night trip.

But if I was doing something professional with it, ie reports, or notes, or anything else, the iPad would absolutely fail. Give me my MacBook or give me death. I was recently trying to use Numbers to do a basic little personal inventory spreadsheet. On the iPad, it was absolutely painful. It took probably thirty minutes to do what I could have done in 5 on my laptop. Painful, painful!

totally agree.

I know there are some that would argue that they can create content on the iPad - but it's not for me. emails, web surfing, media consumption, etc - but I'm not going to sit and write anything of real length on a touch screen. I prefer a physical keyboard and sure - you can pair one with the ipad - but then what's the real point (portability/ease/etc).

For me - the iPad is a companion device - not a replacement.
 
just to clarify I gave a negative mark because the TS seemed to feel that just because the Ipad wasn't a legit need for him. He wanted others to validate there needs. 1st a quick google search would find people using it in the medical field many people find it makes there daily life much easier. Sure for some it's a toy who cares it's there toy. Also a quick google search would have found many people talking about how it helps there daily lives. Heck I don't even have a ipad because I decided it wasn't a need for me. However I also didn't make a thread asking others to validate why they need it. Oh and a little more research would find that MS Word can work on the IPAD. part of High School is learning to research TS failed. ;)


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I never bought an iPad because I don't have the money, but I WOULD immediately if I had extra money and less debt.

I just completed a graduate degree with an MBP but I would really recommend the iPad for the undergraduate humanities student. If I were to go to university again i would buy this and probably nothing else for school work.

Now that I'm out of school I still want one to carry ebooks, make random notes on the subway, and use as a reader for music scores....
 
really? who cares if people misspell. as long as you get your thought across, that's cool. you guys are probably the type who went nuts when bush asked "is our children learning?" so what, big deal. and especially in this forum, don't police people's spelling or grammar. that's not the point of this site. there/their, a lot of people make that mistake. a lot of them are probably smarter than you.
 
i think feflower is right, and i would add that the ipad is perfect for graduate work as well.

the ipad changed everything for me. my mbp rarely leaves the house now, and i do all of my work now with the ipad. just finished two meetings that had papers to go over, scheduling to arrange, information to track down, etc. all of it got done with my ipad. plus, i got some writing done on a project this morning. a super productive day and i didn't have to lug around the mbp or hunt for outlets.

i wish it had some multitasking, though. i read on it and would like to take notes in a separate application like evernote while i am reading. currently, i am pairing my keyboard with my ipod, and that works great, but ideally i shouldn't need two devices. it's a minor complaint, and i have a workaround, but multitasking is on my wish list.
 
I love the iPad but now Im starting to feel I need more power. I want true multitasking, being able to download stuff to the device like torrents, faster web browsing, file explorer, sending files over bluettoth, etc.

Thats why Im now looking to replace my iPad 1 with a more powerful portable device. I'm debating between the new Samsung Slate PC (with Windows 7 and 8 next year) or a Macbook Air 11.

I need something more powerful than even the Android tablets.

Slates look so cool right now with the Digitizer Pen.
 
I love the iPad but now Im starting to feel I need more power. I want true multitasking, being able to download stuff to the device like torrents, faster web browsing, file explorer, sending files over bluettoth, etc.

Then get a desktop. All the things you want are relics of desktop and laptop computing; tablets are a shift away from that to more modern equivalents. In order:

True multitasking - battery ruiner on a mobile device.
Downloading torrents - buy it instead.
Faster web browsing - is it that slow?
File explorer - we've been over this, but file systems are heading the way of the dinosaurs.
Sending files over bluetooth - 1998 called, they want their technology back,
 
i wish it had some multitasking, though. i read on it and would like to take notes in a separate application like evernote while i am reading. currently, i am pairing my keyboard with my ipod, and that works great, but ideally i shouldn't need two devices. it's a minor complaint, and i have a workaround, but multitasking is on my wish list.

Why can't you have your book app open, read it, and then either 4-finger swipe over (I think iOS 5.0 only), or double click home (etc), and then goto your note taking app and write your notes down? iOS does this just fine. I do it all the time.

Everybody acts like this is such a big chore. It's the same thing on a desktop. On a desktop, you only ever have one app in the foreground. Everything else is always backgrounded. Hitting "cmd-tab" to switch apps is the same thing as 4-finger swiping left/right between apps (or double clicking home, etc.) The only difference is that on iOS the apps are always full screen, where as on a desktop you can change the size of an application's window.

Also, if you're using iBooks, you can make a note in whatever you're reading... Just tap-hold like you are going to select text.
 
So getting to my question. Have ANY of you bought an iPad for good reasons? lets be honest here. Or was it for very unimportant reasons mixed with how awesome it is? I don't think there are many people in my position that would have to save for a while for it. Most people that decide they want one just go out and get it pretty fast. Is the iPad a very thought out purchase for any of you?

I bought an iPad 1 because I(/we) wanted to develop an app for it. Which we did.
Since then it has proved itself as an excellent addition to my MacBook Pro (nice portability) and my iPhone (great gaming device).
 
I purchased an iPad 1, and for months used it exclusively at work and around the house. That said, I did slowly migrate back to my 13" Macbook pro because there were just too many things I needed it for (primarily creation apps). I used my iPad during meetings at work for note taking, but I never did really adapt well to the virtual keyboard.

I guess it rocks for some people. Sadly, for me it didn't. I sold it on eBay right before they announced the iPad 2, and only lost $50. I guess $50 isn't a bad price to pay for using an iPad for 6 months.

For me, the Macbook Air is a much better fit. I like OSX, and the apps are much more full featured. It just works better for me. It sounds to me that the OP would be better suited with a Macbook Air as well.

But, different strokes for different folks. This is why Apple did not try to replace the Macbook with the iPad. They are complimentary products.
 
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Then get a desktop. All the things you want are relics of desktop and laptop computing; tablets are a shift away from that to more modern equivalents. In order:

True multitasking - battery ruiner on a mobile device.
Downloading torrents - buy it instead.
Faster web browsing - is it that slow?
File explorer - we've been over this, but file systems are heading the way of the dinosaurs.
Sending files over bluetooth - 1998 called, they want their technology back,

Why should he get a desktop? You can do all of what he wants with other tablets and/or a laptop. Again - people need to stop applying their use cases onto others.

Attitudes like yours (i.e. throw the baby out with the bathwater) I find silly. Just like those that say netbooks can't do anything. That's Apple's PR. And while I don't think a netbook is the solution for everyone - I know dozens (just myself) of people who are tickled pink with their netbooks - don't need anything more powerful/faster/etc.

Different strokes for different folks...
 
Then get a desktop. All the things you want are relics of desktop and laptop computing; tablets are a shift away from that to more modern equivalents. In order:

True multitasking - battery ruiner on a mobile device.
Downloading torrents - buy it instead.
Faster web browsing - is it that slow?
File explorer - we've been over this, but file systems are heading the way of the dinosaurs.
Sending files over bluetooth - 1998 called, they want their technology back,


I already have a desktop, an iMac 27. I said I needed this things in a portable environment, so a desktop doesn't fit there... Does it? An Android tablet can very well do these things: true multitasking, download stuff, sending files over bluettoth and has file explorer.

Again: Im looking now at the macbook air o a slate pc. Maybe even a cheap netbook.
 
I know the search function exists, and I know other people have said stuff like this but just stay with me here.

So obviously the iPad sells by the millions and its "revolutionary" and pretty dang sexy and honestly probably the best part about it is the tablet form factor. You can take this thing Everywhere. Well I have been in the market for a laptop or a tablet for a while now. At my high school the majority of the work we do is on the internet so I do need a device for myself. When I first started shopping for these the iPad was on my list. And as I researched the iPad started moving to the top of my list (apple does a great job on their website).

Now, being a high school student I don't exactly have buckets of cash to spend. I didn't have any money until after the iPad was on the top of my list followed closely by stuff like the galaxy tab. And as I started saving, the iPad started to seem like a bad choice. I realized I couldn't submit MS word documents through it and some parts of my school site wouldn't work. After about a month or so I completely removed it from my choices. THE COOL FACTOR WORE OFF!

So getting to my question. Have ANY of you bought an iPad for good reasons? lets be honest here. Or was it for very unimportant reasons mixed with how awesome it is? I don't think there are many people in my position that would have to save for a while for it. Most people that decide they want one just go out and get it pretty fast. Is the iPad a very thought out purchase for any of you?

I was basically in your same position, in high school had to save for a while and I new I wanted my own laptop or iPad (didn't even consider other tablets as iPad is far superior). so after months of researching and thinking and decided to get an iPad 2. I am so happy with it. I actually I'm typing this from it right now! I mean I never have to go upstairs and wait for my sister or parents to get off our only computer anymore. I use my iPad for all my internet use except for when I occasionally want to watch a flash video online and I have a bluetooth keyboard and pages and do all my typing for school on it. I also have all my thousands of songs and pictures on it and some fun apps too. The only thing is if you think you would be wanting to bring whatever you end up buying to school, the iPad may not be the best choice depending on your school. For me not many people have a laptop let alone an iPad so I feel sorta weird bringing into school also that makes it an easy target for someone to steal. For me it's not a problem because in school i can use library computers. Also I was thinking just like you I was thinking that it was something that would be cool and not the best choice but not the case at all. So glad I got it! I hope this helps you out in your decision please update us on what you decide to do!
 
are you serious? Have you learned nothing?
there are plenty of people in the world who don't own any Apple products other than the iPad. It's a stand alone product, it doesn't require anything else to "complement" it.
How exactly does having a MacBook or iMac complement iPad user experience anyway? :confused:
that's like saying stay at home moms would better appreciate cooking on an Electrolux stove if they had an Electrolux fridge and washer and dryer set too.

Gtfo.

Maybe he's thnking about the attractive icloud where to use that you really need more apple products to compliment it. Man why is everyone smashing this guy? It's a 600 investment that's at least 2 summers work for me!(I'm in high school I don't think unwound be leaving if I made 300 buks a year as an adult) it's very hard to choose what to get when your spending so much money. When I was deciding what to get I was constantly going back back and forth between different options and in my months long research and opinions effort I know I asked alot of dumb questions! I just really don't see why he got minus 42 on this question I mean really.
 
Why can't you have your book app open, read it, and then either 4-finger swipe over (I think iOS 5.0 only), or double click home (etc), and then goto your note taking app and write your notes down? iOS does this just fine. I do it all the time.

Everybody acts like this is such a big chore. It's the same thing on a desktop. On a desktop, you only ever have one app in the foreground. Everything else is always backgrounded. Hitting "cmd-tab" to switch apps is the same thing as 4-finger swiping left/right between apps (or double clicking home, etc.) The only difference is that on iOS the apps are always full screen, where as on a desktop you can change the size of an application's window.

Also, if you're using iBooks, you can make a note in whatever you're reading... Just tap-hold like you are going to select text.

I don't have iOS5, so I cannot comment on this 4 finger swipe. Sounds interesting, and although I appreciate the advice, I don't want to stop my reading just to take notes. I'm not acting like it is a big chore to change apps in the middle of something. It actually is one for me. You can sympathize or not. Whatever.

I have found a workflow that is good for me (i have to combine the ipad and ipod to do it), but I would prefer a single device with multitasking. At this point, the pros outweigh the cons with the iPad, but who knows what the future will bring.

Maybe Apple will make such a thing possible someday. It certainly seems technically feasible. After all, for some reason I can listen to music while I read, but I can't have even a plain text simple app open for taking notes.

For those who claim there would be some sort of battery problem, how could a text program be so much more awful than YouTube, music, or videos.
 
I don't think everyone is being completely honest, my personal experience the first week with the iPad was awesome, I loved & used it more then my computer. After the first week it just became a device that I use in bed...

And here's another joker who thinks the world revolves around him.

You seem to be caught up on the game aspect of the iPad. Heh, I agree, I don't think the touch works well for a lot of traditional games and because of the price of most iPad games they aren't that deep.

But, the iPad has revolutionized my job. And I'm sure there are plenty of others out there who can say the same.
 
Perfect setup = iPhone + Mac( laptop or iMac) + apple tv + iPad.

All I really need is the iPhone and my iMac, but life isn't about having only what we need.

And yes the iPad is a big iPod touch, just like it is a big iPhone without calling ability, but sometimes bigger is better.

I could easily do without my iPad and apple tv, but I have them because I like them.......period.....

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I love my ipad2 changed my life, I can troll on the toilet for 10 hrs at a time.



That's too funny dude. iPad is now standard equipment for taking care of "business"

Sitting with nothing to read is just plain boring now.
 
I don't have iOS5, so I cannot comment on this 4 finger swipe. Sounds interesting, and although I appreciate the advice, I don't want to stop my reading just to take notes. I'm not acting like it is a big chore to change apps in the middle of something. It actually is one for me. You can sympathize or not. Whatever.

I have found a workflow that is good for me (i have to combine the ipad and ipod to do it), but I would prefer a single device with multitasking. At this point, the pros outweigh the cons with the iPad, but who knows what the future will bring.

Maybe Apple will make such a thing possible someday. It certainly seems technically feasible. After all, for some reason I can listen to music while I read, but I can't have even a plain text simple app open for taking notes.

For those who claim there would be some sort of battery problem, how could a text program be so much more awful than YouTube, music, or videos.

A couple of thoughts. First, let's assume that Apple will do whatever is necessary to prevent the unpredictable lag that accompanies multiple apps running simultaneously. That means the multitasking features of iOS are severely restricted.

Second, let's assume that Apple wants to limit cpu load so that a relatively weak processor (designed for a phone rather than a pc) can be used in the iPad.

Third, Apple wants to limit the screen to a 1064x768 resolution for cost, performance, and battery drain reasons.

Finally, assume that Apple sees little benefit (and numerous issues for developers) in supporting multiple task windows on a device as small as the iPad's 9" screen.

Take all of these constraints into consideration and it's more understandable why Apple severely restricts the number and type of apps that can be run simultaneously. Music streaming apps, for example, require very little cpu load and virtually no screen real estate. Keep in mind that while you can listen to music while reading, you cannot control the music app without suspending the e-Reader app and even then only some functionality is provided for the music app. To change radio stations, for example, you have to exit the e-Reader.

A note taking app on the other hand, might be used alone or as you suggested in conjunction with an e-Reader app. In that case, task window resizing would have to be supported in some fashion. And while the number of music streaming apps (including Apple's own iPod app) is limited, there are numerous note taking apps (both typed and handwritten) that would have to be supported and made compatible with one another.

I, too, find some of the constraints Apple has imposed in terms of multitasking frustrating. On the other hand, I understand why they've made some of the choices they've made to contain the cost and weight of the iPad and to assure its consistent performance. As you suggest, technology advances (and the associated reduced costs) will almost undoubtedly allow for more flexibility and stronger performance in tablet devices. Apple is unlikely to be on the cutting edge of those developments, but they're likely to incorporate them gradually as they manage to meet their internal design objectives.
 
A couple of thoughts. First, let's assume that Apple will do whatever is necessary to prevent the unpredictable lag that accompanies multiple apps running simultaneously. That means the multitasking features of iOS are severely restricted.

Second, let's assume that Apple wants to limit cpu load so that a relatively weak processor (designed for a phone rather than a pc) can be used in the iPad.

Third, Apple wants to limit the screen to a 1064x768 resolution for cost, performance, and battery drain reasons.

Finally, assume that Apple sees little benefit (and numerous issues for developers) in supporting multiple task windows on a device as small as the iPad's 9" screen.

Take all of these constraints into consideration and it's more understandable why Apple severely restricts the number and type of apps that can be run simultaneously. Music streaming apps, for example, require very little cpu load and virtually no screen real estate. Keep in mind that while you can listen to music while reading, you cannot control the music app without suspending the e-Reader app and even then only some functionality is provided for the music app. To change radio stations, for example, you have to exit the e-Reader.

A note taking app on the other hand, might be used alone or as you suggested in conjunction with an e-Reader app. In that case, task window resizing would have to be supported in some fashion. And while the number of music streaming apps (including Apple's own iPod app) is limited, there are numerous note taking apps (both typed and handwritten) that would have to be supported and made compatible with one another.

I, too, find some of the constraints Apple has imposed in terms of multitasking frustrating. On the other hand, I understand why they've made some of the choices they've made to contain the cost and weight of the iPad and to assure its consistent performance. As you suggest, technology advances (and the associated reduced costs) will almost undoubtedly allow for more flexibility and stronger performance in tablet devices. Apple is unlikely to be on the cutting edge of those developments, but they're likely to incorporate them gradually as they manage to meet their internal design objectives.

All very good points. I agree with you.

I can pretty much get everything done that I want to with my current workflow, but if Apple came to me and asked what feature I would like to see, it would not be multitasking necessarily, but simply the ability to take notes while I am reading. A popup of some sort within the reading application (like GoodReader) would be fabulous. I would be happy to copy the notes I take from there into my notetaking software of choice. I have not seen this function across page turns, so I kind of doubt it is possible in iOS now, but I am not a developer, so I don't know.

At any rate, I think this kind of functionality would be really useful for lots of people. For example, a popup in netflix that allowed you to take notes on movies (for film majors), a popup in a podcast that allowed you to compose an email while watching Anderson Cooper, etc. It's a small thing, but it would go a long ways towards improving the iPad's usefulness, and it might not even require the kind of multitasking that Apple seems loathe to implement.
 
...I can pretty much get everything done that I want to with my current workflow, but if Apple came to me and asked what feature I would like to see, it would not be multitasking necessarily, but simply the ability to take notes while I am reading. A popup of some sort within the reading application (like GoodReader) would be fabulous. I would be happy to copy the notes I take from there into my notetaking software of choice. I have not seen this function across page turns, so I kind of doubt it is possible in iOS now, but I am not a developer, so I don't know.

At any rate, I think this kind of functionality would be really useful for lots of people. For example, a popup in netflix that allowed you to take notes on movies (for film majors), a popup in a podcast that allowed you to compose an email while watching Anderson Cooper, etc. It's a small thing, but it would go a long ways towards improving the iPad's usefulness, and it might not even require the kind of multitasking that Apple seems loathe to implement.

I agree. And I believe that some of the e-Reader apps (Kobo?) provide for note-taking within the app itself. But what you're describing is a generic facility for taking notes with a variety of apps. I can't comment on the specific challenges that would present, but I suspect it may have something to do with coordinating a note with a specific note "point" in the content being referenced. Since the iPad maintains all data associated with an app in a "private" file space, that may be sticking point.
 
I agree. And I believe that some of the e-Reader apps (Kobo?) provide for note-taking within the app itself. But what you're describing is a generic facility for taking notes with a variety of apps. I can't comment on the specific challenges that would present, but I suspect it may have something to do with coordinating a note with a specific note "point" in the content being referenced. Since the iPad maintains all data associated with an app in a "private" file space, that may be sticking point.

EDIT: Thanks for brainstorming with me here, because there is a way to do this after all! In GoodReader (send -> Email Summary) it generated a file (a little messy looking, but acceptable) of all my annotations in one place. All I have to do is copy that and paste it into a separate notebook. Wow. That is a huge help. Now I have one less reason to want multitasking capabilities in the iPad.
 
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I know the search function exists, and I know other people have said stuff like this but just stay with me here.

So obviously the iPad sells by the millions and its "revolutionary" and pretty dang sexy and honestly probably the best part about it is the tablet form factor. You can take this thing Everywhere. Well I have been in the market for a laptop or a tablet for a while now. At my high school the majority of the work we do is on the internet so I do need a device for myself. When I first started shopping for these the iPad was on my list. And as I researched the iPad started moving to the top of my list (apple does a great job on their website).

Now, being a high school student I don't exactly have buckets of cash to spend. I didn't have any money until after the iPad was on the top of my list followed closely by stuff like the galaxy tab. And as I started saving, the iPad started to seem like a bad choice. I realized I couldn't submit MS word documents through it and some parts of my school site wouldn't work. After about a month or so I completely removed it from my choices. THE COOL FACTOR WORE OFF!

So getting to my question. Have ANY of you bought an iPad for good reasons? lets be honest here. Or was it for very unimportant reasons mixed with how awesome it is? I don't think there are many people in my position that would have to save for a while for it. Most people that decide they want one just go out and get it pretty fast. Is the iPad a very thought out purchase for any of you?

i buy stuff because I need it, not because it is "cool." i think it is retarded to plunk down 700 bucks for something "cool" like a 64GB ipad and not have a reason to do it. a high school kid with an ipad? who knows what kids do with ipads these days. whatever your reason for buying stuff is your own and none of my concern. i know I bought an ipad because my post-graduate schooling requires me to read a LOT and printing out tons of paper is more effort than I care to put into managing the piles of articles that can accumulate if I don't go digital.

so, yes, my ipad purchase was very well thought out like the rest of the stuff i buy. last thing i need is to buy crap that I don't need, have it lying around the apartment without a use. wasted money is money i could have used for something else more useful and fun...
 
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