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Just because you can't tell difference between 1080p and 828p doesn't mean others can't.

Maybe you don't care about the difference which is fine. Personal preference.

Some people claim to not see a difference between LCD and OLED....

Arguably the 11 LCD is better than the Plus series but it is not as sharp. This is fact and most evident when reading text.

Those who care so much are usually happy to pay the premium for OLED phones or go with older OLED models at the same price point.
 
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The iPhone 11 is terrible according to my eyes. The display reminds me of my old iPhone 6S plus which is not a good thing. Also the bezel around the display is a joke in 2019.

Also the price is quite terrible if you take the iPhone 11 256 GB:
- OneNote 7T Pro 256 GB = cheaper
- Samsung Note 10+ 256 GB = similar priced (If you shop around)

Then there is the Samsung Galaxy S11 coming soon.
 
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lol. I actually enjoy Samsung Galaxy S10e a lot and looked into it and the 3A before I decided on my 11 pro. It’s not inferior to the 11. The oled panels are better not including resolution or PPi. LCD screens are the past and those big bezels are a big no for me. Thus why I bought a 11 pro then the 11.

Sweeeet, you found something that makes you happy. Moving on I presume? Off you go to your Samsung forum. Best of luck to you..bye
bye.
 
It’s not false what so ever. It does sell because of the fancy Apple logo on the back. To say people don’t buy certain things because of the status symbol stuff is that is false. Apple could remove the pros and sell the 11 for $999 and it would still sell.

Fashion accessory and brand shine are parts to the puzzle but also the fact that iOS devices are the second most popular smartphone OS devices out there and smartphones are the dominant computer platform for the majority of users today. That’s where most people spend their time on.
 
The iPhone 11 is terrible according to my eyes. The display reminds me of my old iPhone 6S plus which is not a good thing. Also the bezel around the display is a joke in 2019.

Also the price is quite terrible if you take the iPhone 11 256 GB:
- OneNote 7T Pro 256 GB = cheaper
- Samsung Note 10+ 256 GB = similar priced (If you shop around)

Then there is the Samsung Galaxy S11 coming soon.

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out then and enjoy these great Android phones from the world’s biggest data mining corporation.
 
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The iPhone 11 is terrible according to my eyes. The display reminds me of my old iPhone 6S plus which is not a good thing. Also the bezel around the display is a joke in 2019.

Also the price is quite terrible if you take the iPhone 11 256 GB:
- OneNote 7T Pro 256 GB = cheaper
- Samsung Note 10+ 256 GB = similar priced (If you shop around)

Then there is the Samsung Galaxy S11 coming soon.
and there's a reason why more people buy the 11 over those devices...IOS vs android's software is why

those phones are great but for most the software is unbearable.

there's a reason why all Samsung phones have great trade in offers and deals as they struggle to sell them in high volumes.
 
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The iPhone 11 is terrible according to my eyes. The display reminds me of my old iPhone 6S plus which is not a good thing. Also the bezel around the display is a joke in 2019.

Also the price is quite terrible if you take the iPhone 11 256 GB:
- OneNote 7T Pro 256 GB = cheaper
- Samsung Note 10+ 256 GB = similar priced (If you shop around)

Then there is the Samsung Galaxy S11 coming soon.
While this is your opinion, the upcoming earnings call will give us an idea of how the masses feel.
 
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I think that people need to come to terms with the fact that smartphone discussion is no longer being between iPhone and android, but iPhone and older iPhone models. The people who want iPhones will get iPhones. In this sense, the greatest competition the latest iPhone faces aren't flagship models from other competing brands such as Samsung or Oneplus, but the older models being "good enough" that users don't feel compelled to upgrade. When Apple claims that their newest iPhones every year are the "best iPhones shipped", this is no idle boast, and it also highlights the fact that you can only improve technology by so much on a year-to-year basis.

Which isn't a huge an issue as some make it out to be since most people aren't upgrading their phones on an annual basis anyways.

Thanks to the way they have been positioned, the iPhone 11 doesn’t come off as a stripped-down version of the iPhone 11 Pro. Instead, it’s the other way around. There is the iPhone 11 experience and then additional features were added to the iPhone 11 Pro. Apple appears to have done well from the point of view of adding differentiation to the “Pro” models without watering down the non-pro flagship, and has definitely learned a thing or two from the iPhone 5C and SE.

As for innovation, the new iPhones sport new finishes, better screens, longer battery life and better cameras. These are meaningful improvements that will benefit any user, as compared to Samsung’s definition of innovation – be the first to do something for the sake of being first, and which I have zero interest in being a part of.

In all, Apple has made the right calls and compromised in the right areas to preserve the end user experience, and I believe the iPhone 11 will do quite well, sales-wise, and most deservedly so.
 
and there's a reason why more people buy the 11 over those devices...IOS vs android's software is why

those phones are great but for most the software is unbearable.

there's a reason why all Samsung phones have great trade in offers and deals as they struggle to sell them in high volumes.

I don‘t know about you but not being able to multitasking is really what makes me dislike iOS at the moment. The iPhone 11 Pro Max has enough screen real estate to for example have youtube running on the top half of the screen and the bottom half for texting at the same time. Yet iOS treats my iPhone 11 Pro Max as if it is an iPhone X.

So I can see myself getting an Android phone on the side.
 
...and if you're talking about the higher price compared to similar phones with higher res, people don't see it as expensive - people don't even see the price of the phone on carrier plans, they just see a monthly plan price that's affordable or not affordable and, for the most people as shown by sales, it is affordable.
 
I don‘t know about you but not being able to multitasking is really what makes me dislike iOS at the moment. The iPhone 11 Pro Max has enough screen real estate to for example have youtube running on the top half of the screen and the bottom half for texting at the same time. Yet iOS treats my iPhone 11 Pro Max as if it is an iPhone X.

So I can see myself getting an Android phone on the side.

How often would you have YouTube open to begin with never mind on such a small phone screen?
 
...and if you're talking about the higher price compared to similar phones with higher res, people don't see it as expensive - people don't even see the price of the phone on carrier plans, they just see a monthly plan price that's affordable or not affordable and, for the most people as shown by sales, it is affordable.
The 11 Pro is affordable on plans if you opt for a 36 month contract but under that it can be double that of the 11 on a monthly basis. If nobody checked the price on contract then surely the 11 Pro would be the phone of choice for all iPhone users? The XR and 11 stand out because you can get them between £30-40p/m on carrier plans whereas the Pros are upwards of £60. I don’t think the cost is as hidden as you think, some stretch to it, some don’t.
 
I don‘t know about you but not being able to multitasking is really what makes me dislike iOS at the moment. The iPhone 11 Pro Max has enough screen real estate to for example have youtube running on the top half of the screen and the bottom half for texting at the same time. Yet iOS treats my iPhone 11 Pro Max as if it is an iPhone X.

So I can see myself getting an Android phone on the side.

I do agree, that’s one thing I miss from my S10 plus. Picture in picture was a great feature for me. Maybe in iOS 14 we see it
 
You’ve got to appreciate the genius in a corporation who are able to drip feed features/specification and 720p panels in 2019/20 and have an almost guaranteed Consumer loyalty who will ensure it is the Worlds best selling smartphone for that year..Why would they not cheapen out on components while charging top dollar? Because they can and still ensure guaranteed sales. It’s simple but genius! Apple have years of updates to go before they spec out their devices to peak and drip feeding specification leaves plenty room to upgrade & improve upon (future models) makes good business sense..if you can get away with it..which they clearly can. It’s literally like saving specifications for a rainy day 😉
 
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Actually I compared Xr with XS and 11 with pro guess what both screens are equally sharp and punchy , it’s purely subjective but from my personal experience The resolution is awesome
 
You’ve got to appreciate the genius in a corporation who are able to drip feed features/specification and 720p panels in 2019/20 and have an almost guaranteed Consumer loyalty who will ensure it is the Worlds best selling smartphone for that year..Why would they not cheapen out on components while charging top dollar? Because they can and still ensure guaranteed sales. It’s simple but genius! Apple have years of updates to go before they spec out their devices to peak and drip feeding specification leaves plenty room to upgrade & improve upon (future models) makes good business sense..if you can get away with it..which they clearly can. It’s literally like saving specifications for a rainy day 😉

Yeah who would have thought that the software and ecosystem was more important than the hardware! Many people still fail to understand that to this day.
 
I don‘t know about you but not being able to multitasking is really what makes me dislike iOS at the moment. The iPhone 11 Pro Max has enough screen real estate to for example have youtube running on the top half of the screen and the bottom half for texting at the same time. Yet iOS treats my iPhone 11 Pro Max as if it is an iPhone X.

So I can see myself getting an Android phone on the side.

Having a movie running on half of my iPhone screen is honestly the last thing I want to do with it. Why would I want to watch something on a tiny phone screen in the first place when there are TVs and tablets around that can do this much more comfortably.
 
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Having a movie running on half of my iPhone screen is honestly the last thing I want to do with it. Why would I want to watch something on a tiny phone screen in the first place when there are TVs and tablets around that can do this much more comfortably.

A phone screen is already tiny for watching video never mind watching video on only half of a tiny screen!
 
Yeah who would have thought that the software and ecosystem was more important than the hardware! Many people still fail to understand that to this day.

Yup. The ecosystem affords them the luxury of playing fast & loose with the consumer. It’s a simple Business model. They have something the consumer wants that nobody else can offer.

My wife has other ideas. Her take on Apple playing catch-up on spec is the simple tried & tested mantra “treat em mean keep em keen” 😁
 
Yup. The ecosystem affords them the luxury of playing fast & loose with the consumer. It’s a simple Business model. They have something the consumer wants that nobody else can offer.

My wife has other ideas. Her take on Apple playing catch-up on spec is the simple tried & tested mantra “treat em mean keep em keen” 😁

Customers would up-sticks and leave if Apple dared play fast and loose with them!

The trouble iOS users have is that the competition is just so poor in comparison that the only effective choice is another Apple product. We really need the competition to step up their game, get away from Android and Google, and start offering a fully integrated, vertical ecosystem of products and software the same way Apple do.

We need more Apple's in this world and fewer Samsungs, Huaweis and Googles.
 
Yup. The ecosystem affords them the luxury of playing fast & loose with the consumer. It’s a simple Business model. They have something the consumer wants that nobody else can offer.

My wife has other ideas. Her take on Apple playing catch-up on spec is the simple tried & tested mantra “treat em mean keep em keen”
The phones in their mid tier are very good which helps keep people in the ecosystem. When consumers see the high end models offer very little over the 11, its less of an issue.
 
You’ve got to appreciate the genius in a corporation who are able to drip feed features/specification and 720p panels in 2019/20 and have an almost guaranteed Consumer loyalty who will ensure it is the Worlds best selling smartphone for that year..Why would they not cheapen out on components while charging top dollar? Because they can and still ensure guaranteed sales. It’s simple but genius! Apple have years of updates to go before they spec out their devices to peak and drip feeding specification leaves plenty room to upgrade & improve upon (future models) makes good business sense..if you can get away with it..which they clearly can. It’s literally like saving specifications for a rainy day 😉
Companies, including Apple, probably do the trickle release from time to time when they feel they are that ahead of the competition—but not in the case of this thread. I don’t think some people here are understanding the fact that for those who don’t see the difference, which is likely the vast majority out there, increased resolution beyond 326 PPI is both superfluous and detrimental (cost and battery life). So it’s not something they should ever want on future iterations of their iPhone.

Maybe a minority can see the difference, probably most of them having to really look for it and compare side by side. But I think mostly it’s just people having a complex of wanting to say/know they have the highest specs in the industry, regardless of whether or not it’s actually a good thing to have.

If it’s just complaining about cost, and wanting more for the money, as someone who doesn’t notice the resolution difference, I’d much rather Apple give me something that will actually benefit me, like better cameras or more storage.

The trouble iOS users have is that the competition is just so poor in comparison that the only effective choice is another Apple product. We really need the competition to step up their game, get away from Android and Google, and start offering a fully integrated, vertical ecosystem of products and software the same way Apple do.

We need more Apple's in this world and fewer Samsungs, Huaweis and Googles.
True. The Apple ecosystem has such weak competition. No other company has an ecosystem 1) so filled out and well-executed, and 2) focused on privacy. Microsoft probably has the best position to do this in regard to their resources and business model (not ad-based), but they gave up on phones which is basically the biggest piece of the puzzle. Also their obligation to support a million OEMs doesn’t help.
 
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