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I would bet S0 will not get WatchOS 5 no matter what. S0 processor is way too slow.

If it does not receive watchOS 5, that would put the first generation Apple Watch at approximately 3.5 years old from its launch in April 2015 if a Series 4 launches in September. Even if it doesn't receive watchOS 5, it still has its functionality, but the processor certainly affects its performance in some areas.
 
Actually, I just checked Apples website. There is no refurbished models available at this point. What you're seeing, is they are featuring which models would be available for refurbished if they did have them available, which would be Series 1 or Series 2.

My bad.
 
Is this true? I thought during the announcement of the S2 the reason the S1 existed is to ... ah move the cpu, not the GPS. Got it. ;) Curious why then did they phase out the S2 vs the S1 then?

Back to the S2 would be too similar to the S3 GPS model. It would be hard to put the price point of the S2 at the S1 level and have consumers justify spending an extra $100 on chip speed and barometer. I'm also guessing, though I could be wrong, that manufacturing the S1 since it's not "waterproof" per se, is cheaper.
 
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Uhhh. My iPhone 3G and iPhone 4 and iPad Mini 2 disagree.
What? Gotta be more specific. Are you saying it could receive more updates or it received too many as is.

Not a chance the iPhone 4 would run iOS 8 properly.
 
The ceramic back on my S3 seems to need much more cleaning than the composite one (which luckily I’m not allergic to). On the whole, though I’m enjoying the look of the stainless steel as a change, I liked the composite back and glass screen just fine.

I don’t feel I need to do extra cleaning except mopping with cloth. Maybe rinse a little bit with water, but that’s about it.

Apparently I am really slow or behind the curve.. I just realized the S3 non-cellular still has a composite back. Only GPS + Cellular gets ceramic.
 
Is this true? I thought during the announcement of the S2 the reason the S1 existed is to ... ah move the cpu, not the GPS. Got it. ;) Curious why then did they phase out the S2 vs the S1 then?

It’s true. The S1P is a hybrid. It got the dual core CPU of the S2 chip but retained the GPU of the S1 chip. So the Series 1 still has stuttering graphics like the original Series 0.
 
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It’s true. The S1P is a hybrid. It got the dual core CPU of the S2 chip but retained the GPU of the S1 chip. So the Series 1 still has stuttering graphics like the original Series 0.

Wikipedia says the GPU is upgraded in S1 too.

Which would make sense as CPU and GPU are closely integrated in any mobile device.

“The SiP in Apple Watch Series 1 is called S1P and looks superficially identical to the S1, but it includes most of the new features of the Apple S2 except notably for the on-chip GPS functionality. It contains the same dual-core CPU with the same new GPU capabilities as the S2 making it about 50% faster than the S1.[11][12]”


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_S1
 
Back to the S2 would be too similar to the S3 GPS model. It would be hard to put the price point of the S2 at the S1 level and have consumers justify spending an extra $100 on chip speed and barometer. I'm also guessing, though I could be wrong, that manufacturing the S1 since it's not "waterproof" per se, is cheaper.

The Series 2 and Series 3 Are Way too close in comparison to each other in terms of capabilities and features. There's no way Apple could allow Series 2 in their lineup when it would be priced cheaper than the Series 3 being almost identical aside from audible Siri, the faster dual core processor And LTE. If Series 2 existed in Apples Line up, it would severely hurt the sales of the Series 3. They had no choice but to remove Series 2.
 
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Having read up on the S1 again, I think there’s a production element to consider too.

The S1 used the same production lines as the S0 whereas the S2 didn’t as it had a different case size. I suspect the S2 lines are now making S3 models....
 
I’m confused.com
Some further retailer reviews today -since undecided s1ors3
Partly ny own fault as I think I missed s2 -late 2017 -249 u.k. pounds.
With s2 since taking up s3 costs -I have to determine if it’s a worthy tech upgrade.
Maybe I’ll get more news on gym appointments tomorrow.
Then I’ll decide if se1 or se3 can be advantaguos for stretching excercices maybe cycling machine.
 
Wikipedia says the GPU is upgraded in S1 too.

Which would make sense as CPU and GPU are closely integrated in any mobile device.

“The SiP in Apple Watch Series 1 is called S1P and looks superficially identical to the S1, but it includes most of the new features of the Apple S2 except notably for the on-chip GPS functionality. It contains the same dual-core CPU with the same new GPU capabilities as the S2 making it about 50% faster than the S1.[11][12]”


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_S1
Someone needs to correct Wikipedia. If the GPU was the same, there would have been no need to come up with the new name.

I’m not sure what you mean by the CPU and GPU being “integrated”. An SoC means system on chip. That means that the CPU and GPU are separate components soldered onto the same chip. So it’s fairly easy to leave the old GPU for cost reasons.

There seems to be some confusion on how extensive the GPU was upgraded in the S1P but I don’t think it’s as good as the S2.
 
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