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Why is Apple so quiet about the iMac Pro?
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Usually Apple clear inventory in December and launch a very good product un January, but now you already have the ones from December.
It's not really about hating on an unreleased product. We're just making educated guesses based on Apple's history. We know how Apple usually builds their machines. They're running hot because they always prioritise form over function.
We also know the trash can Mac Pro's had silent operation that also resulted to a lot of failing graphics cards. We also know that the current design of the iMac runs hot and loud. Even with the improved cooling you need to consider that they will run a much beefier hardware in the same amount of space. No matter how amazing their engineers are, they cannot beat thermodynamics. They thought they could with the new Mac Pro but they soon realised they didn't.
We also know that first gen apple products are almost always ridden with issues.
Based on those facts we make the informed assumption that the machines will probably run hot, loud and they will probably have issues.
Again it's not about hating. I don't have any strong emotions like that for a product. I know I will get it because I need it for my work but I'm also aware that it's not going to be a smooth ride.
"Where's the iMac Pro?"
Perhaps production isn't going quite as according to plan.
I see the iMac Pro as something like "The Cube" of many years ago.
A dazzling, spiffy product, highly priced -- but with relatively few buyers.
A niche product for a few serious buyers and a few others with more moola than brains...
Perhaps production isn't going quite as according to plan.
I see the iMac Pro as something like "The Cube" of many years ago.
A dazzling, spiffy product, highly priced -- but with relatively few buyers.
A niche product for a few serious buyers and a few others with more moola than brains...
Well I expect they'll prove you wrong the new macbook pros have been brilliant thermal wise, so have the macbooks without any active cooling, the chips have finally caught up with the thermal design apple have always wanted to use for their products and they are going for it.
Strange, I also had the strange urgency to shout "Where's the iMac Pro?" on the 1st of December. Seems like somebody couldn't resist actually posting as soon as December started
"Where's the iMac Pro?" There I got it out of my system.
[doublepost=1512406583][/doublepost]In all seriousness I really want the upcoming New Mac Pro, I think they are fed up with all the complaints of the old trashcan and will deliver what everyone wants. I beefier tower that Has workstation type components and is upgradeable. I like what they are doing with the imac pro but its just not for me. I need to be able to run multiple monitors and be able to upgrade machine as needed. I still have the Original xeon mac pro at home 11 years old and its still kicking. I need a damn tower that looks great and runs great!
Did you read that the Mac mini is obsolete now and still no word about the iMac Pro....
Apple could at least communicate to us what the state of the iMac Pro is. Is it a 2018 release?
Also they are delaying the new version of Final Cut Pro because of the iMac Pro.
Ever since Tim Cook released the stupid watch the company gets weirder and weirder. I think Tim would prefer to sell handbags for men instead of computers!
Apple could at least communicate to us what the state of the iMac Pro is. Is it a 2018 release?
Also they are delaying the new version of Final Cut Pro because of the iMac Pro.
Ever since Tim Cook released the stupid watch the company gets weirder and weirder. I think Tim would prefer to sell handbags for men instead of computers!
I think the consensus is that Intel is, as usual, late with their chips.
This could be especially true for the custom, downclocked Xeon W-2140B and W-2150B processors that Apple is putting in the iMac Pro.
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I had a Cube and there is much inaccurate urban legend that has grown up around that year 2000 era product.
For a start, it wasn't actually overpriced, it was more a marketing mistake that Apple paired it with a fancy new 15" LCD screen. LCDs were very new at that point and consequently very expensive. The combined cost appeared astronomical.
I bought mine without the screen and it was less than the 450 MHz dual-core PowerMac G4. The price-performance and compactness suited me perfectly and it's still one of my favorite Macs. (The SE/30 from 1990 being another, to show how old school I am.)
Secondly, Apple and Steve Jobs in particular was on a hubris high and the tech press at the time was determined to take them down a peg.
Consequently, minor flaws in the mold finish of the cases became disastrous CRACKS that meant the whole product was FLAWED and liable to fall to pieces. Jobs failed with the NeXT Cube and we're going to make damn sure this one fails too.
Other confusions about the product including its lack of expandability, a soft-touch power switch that flummoxed the pre-touch screen sensibilities of the time, the fanless chimney design which just had to cause it to overheat didn't it (which of course it would if a cat went to sleep on it) all combined to doom the product to niche interest.
Anyway, the PowerMac G4 Cube didn't really die: they cleared the stock of 100,000 of them, put it on ice, learned from the marketing missteps, and morphed it into the Mac mini.
Although I'll probably be getting an iMac Pro, I'd strongly disagree that it is anything like the Cube:
The iMac Pro doesn't represent a new design language or form factor, it's a conventional iMac with a Xeon chip and desktop performance graphics card shoehorned in. And a paint job! I don't even think it will be niche, I bet there is a lot of pent-up demand for a performant Mac with a 5K screen in the wider creative industry.
Which is why I'll be following this thread to get a heads up on early ordering to beat the rush.
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The 2011 Mac mini is obsolete, the 2012 and 2014 are still fully supported.
I think the real problem might be that he doesn't think there is a difference.
I don't know about you but I think they left it open ended as to which December it was going to be released...
I disagree. The logical move is for Apple to use the old chassis for the iMac Pro and release a new chassis for the regular iMac late next year.
- The selling point of the iMac Pro is raw power
- The selling point of the 2018 iMac is aesthetics
I still think that Apple should take inspiration from the Surface Pro and use that to completely change the form factor of the iMac Pro range.
Leave the iMac range in the existing form as that is what people expect but radically change the Pro to really cater for professional power users and grab the torch back from the PC brigade.
Leave the iMac range in the existing form as that is what people expect but radically change the Pro to really cater for professional power users and grab the torch back from the PC brigade.
Still checking the 'News' section of Google every hour to make sure I have the heads up on the iMac Pro.
It's annoying that the iPhone X buyers had the exact date and time of the pre-order for the handset over a month in advance, and yet here we are - the pro users - still waiting for Apple to make their minds up as to when we're going to receive the iMac Pro in the same month that it's going to be made available.
I'd just like to know:
I do think December 18th makes sense for pre-order / release. That date was on Wiki for a month before it was removed, and Apple seemed extremely proud of the core count at the announcement. I find it unlikely that the blame falls to Google Bots for 'being dumb' and thinking the core count is the release date - last I checked, Google's bots are pretty clever things. To me, it's much more likely that Apple want to make a public announcement on that date to say that today is the 18th, and 18 is the number of cores in the new iMac Pro etc. It's very Apple, I think, and I can also see them privately removing the listed date from Wiki/Google in a state of bafflement, not realising that the information had been scrubbed from a location on their website beforehand.
All speculative. It's going to be a longer December than usual.
It's annoying that the iPhone X buyers had the exact date and time of the pre-order for the handset over a month in advance, and yet here we are - the pro users - still waiting for Apple to make their minds up as to when we're going to receive the iMac Pro in the same month that it's going to be made available.
I'd just like to know:
- has Intel messed up and forced the release back?
- the set models that will be available for purchase (8, 10 and 18 core models and their respective components)
- the cost of each individual upgrade that you can make to the machine,
- and a date at which we can pre-order / order it.
I do think December 18th makes sense for pre-order / release. That date was on Wiki for a month before it was removed, and Apple seemed extremely proud of the core count at the announcement. I find it unlikely that the blame falls to Google Bots for 'being dumb' and thinking the core count is the release date - last I checked, Google's bots are pretty clever things. To me, it's much more likely that Apple want to make a public announcement on that date to say that today is the 18th, and 18 is the number of cores in the new iMac Pro etc. It's very Apple, I think, and I can also see them privately removing the listed date from Wiki/Google in a state of bafflement, not realising that the information had been scrubbed from a location on their website beforehand.
All speculative. It's going to be a longer December than usual.
If the magic keyboard with numeric keypad availability is of any indication, as was suggested in a previous post, we can expect a release around December 29th. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MQ052LL/A/magic-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad-us-english.
The Executives at Apple were probably ready to discuss the release of the iMac Pro earlier today, but they cancelled that meeting so they could talk about something far more important to them: reversible emojis!
I don't know. Apple stays a level or so higher in term of classiness. At least, that's what I like to think. No news is good news!
If it was intended for the Holiday Season 2017... NEW FANCY APPLE product advertising should have been running from November 30th until New Years. Maybe they realized that the market is very luke warm to tepid cold to the iMac Pro. Maybe they will do a more limited release, since every pro in the market thinks this thing is a "Too Little Too Late" giant apple dud..
"Ever since Tim Cook released the stupid watch the company gets weirder and weirder. I think Tim would prefer to sell handbags for men instead of computers!"
That is a good point!
That is a good point!
That Dell, if it's the one the OP is referring to, is a red herring as it uses a Xeon E3, not the new Xeon W series Intel announced in September, a Xeon E5 replacement.