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Craig, thanks for the encouragement. I really really do want an iMac, so I have been reading a lot about them. One guy had a fan die in his Intel iMac thus the internal components fried. It was covered by warranty, but that is a huge hassle to give up the computer, wait for it to return and then have to reload everything. Not to mention all the personal financial information kept on the computer that would be in Apple's possession. Several of my family members had iMac G3's that died after 2 years. Always the logic board. Consequently, I am hesitant to commit to iMac.

All of my Macs & Compaqs, with the exception of a Mac laptop and a Windows laptop, are easy to get inside. I have replaced and also added hard drives and optical drives. Most of my computers have 2 hard drives inside the case. I really don't need 4 or 8 processors in a computer like the Mac Pro.

I might even consider a Mini, but I am not sure how hot they run. Can anyone help me with that info?
 
Craig, thanks for the encouragement. I really really do want an iMac, so I have been reading a lot about them. One guy had a fan die in his Intel iMac thus the internal components fried. It was covered by warranty, but that is a huge hassle to give up the computer, wait for it to return and then have to reload everything. Not to mention all the personal financial information kept on the computer that would be in Apple's possession. Several of my family members had iMac G3's that died after 2 years. Always the logic board. Consequently, I am hesitant to commit to iMac.

All of my Macs & Compaqs, with the exception of a Mac laptop and a Windows laptop, are easy to get inside. I have replaced and also added hard drives and optical drives. Most of my computers have 2 hard drives inside the case. I really don't need 4 or 8 processors in a computer like the Mac Pro.

I might even consider a Mini, but I am not sure how hot they run. Can anyone help me with that info?

Glad to be of help.
I too am worried about the prospect of having to return my entire machine in the event of a failure. Normally I would also just get the cover off an replace the faulty component and be up and running in no time. Be aware that there is an encryption option in OS X which allows you to encrypt your files. Also, you can do what I am working on right now and keep a copy of everything on an external drive or file server.

I share your concerns but I'm not sure it is a big enough concern to take away the joy of owning such as well designed machine.

The Mac Mini is a better bet now that they are C2D but I'm not sure you can compare them with an iMac. Depends on what you're looking for maybe.

Good luck,
Craig.
 
Why not list a few things to complain about???

Firstly this a consumer machine, not a pro machine and it is built for that purpose! I worked selling computers retail for 7 years! I can not tell you all the computers that came back because people tried to replace something or install RAM!!!! Even after they brought in the brand and model number of their computer!! When I sold RAM I always, always, KNEW that it was coming back!!!

And did you think there was going to be this magical speed increase? Everyone knows Intel's road map! Give me a break!

The new iMac is thinner, and in aluminum! Very cool. This computer will do 95% of what the average Mary or Joe will need! Did you check the sales on iMac's??? Selling well, even the year old design!

Most of your complains are based on YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCES and not if the iMac will work for the poster!

Do you work at Apple to state they have spent more time on the iPhone than the MAC? I understand that Apple as a separate department for the iPhone than the Mac's. Mac's is Steve Jobs and I do not see that changing!

The iMac is a good machine. The Ars Technica review shows that. What you're seeing here is the result of Mac fans waiting for almost a full year for a significant update and what we got was... well, not all that impressive.

First, the basic look of the machine is still pretty much the same. All this time for some minor design tweaks is really a let down and the gripes that people had with the old design weren't addressed. The primary complaint that most people had about it was the chin and that's still there. Personally, I detest the black border around the screen. That's just flat-out awful.

Secondly, the specs on the machines were bumped, but it was nothing impressive, especially after this long a wait. It was really an incremental thing. From what I've seen, it's a good machine, but not knock-your-socks-off good.

Third, it appears that Apple is still using some components intended for laptops, presumably to keep the heat of the machine low. I know it's been argued here endlessly that the difference between mobile and desktop components nowadays is almost negligible, but still. If you're buying a desktop machine, you should get a desktop machine.

Fourth, the glossy screen should be optional. I loathe glossy screens. My vision sucks as it is and any reduction in glare, no matter how minor it may seem to others, is a positive thing for me. I do not understand why Apple couldn't have made that an option.

Fifth, I'm still up in the air as to whether or not the new design is actually better than the old. The new look is a mishmash. The keyboard and mouse don't match the brushed metal look or the black back of the machine. And the sleek, minimalist look is ruined by this duct tape band of black around the display? Huh? This new look just doesn't gel for me. Did Jonathan Ive really design this mess?

Sixth, Apple touts their machines as your multimedia hub and yet, from the complaints I'm hearing, the lack of connectivity and lack of video muscle in the iMacs place them firmly behind their PC counterparts in terms of HD and video.

Seventh, what new features does this iMac offer that the previous version didn't? I'm still trying to figure that out. Every major redesign of the iMac has come with something impressive added on. This didn't.

Eighth, still not user-serviceable beyond the RAM. C'mon... Apple, you can do better.

Ninth, the loss of the low-end, sub-$1000 iMac. I don't understand what Apple is thinking. It's a consumer machine, and Apple now lacks an offering in the price range that many consumers will budget for. That makes no sense. I know someone who has changed his mind about buying a Mac specifically because of this missing iMac. He's now shopping around for a PC.

So, that's most of it. There are more specific complaints out there, but that covers about 95% of it. I was planning to buy a new machine early next year to replace my iMac G4, but now I'm stumped. I don't know what to do. I really do not want this new iMac and I'm not interested in spending as much as it takes to get a Mac Pro (and display.) From my point of view, Apple screwed this up. It seems they are spending too much time and energy on their phone and made a halfhearted effort with the iMac.
 
Since nobody has replied to my original post, I must assume that iMac users don't care about their computers being hot. I've been using personal computers since the days of the Tandy TRS80 and can tell you that hot components fail sooner than components that are merely warm.

Guess what: The heat that you feel at the outside has been removed from the inside. It's aluminium, it is one of the best heat conductors. Copper may be better, but you don't want a copper case for various reasons... It's cooling the inside, that's why it is hot at the outside!
 
Glad to be of help.
I too am worried about the prospect of having to return my entire machine in the event of a failure. Normally I would also just get the cover off an replace the faulty component and be up and running in no time. Be aware that there is an encryption option in OS X which allows you to encrypt your files. Also, you can do what I am working on right now and keep a copy of everything on an external drive or file server.

I share your concerns but I'm not sure it is a big enough concern to take away the joy of owning such as well designed machine.

The Mac Mini is a better bet now that they are C2D but I'm not sure you can compare them with an iMac. Depends on what you're looking for maybe.

Good luck,
Craig.

I have learned through experience and unfortunate bad experience with corruption to make backups. Currently I keep my important data files on one of my Macs, one of my Compaqs and an external Firewire HD formatted as FAT32 so both platforms can read from and write to it.

It gives me a lot of confidence with my hardware knowing that I can swap out components to another machine if trouble happens and I can continue computing.

Encryption is a problem for me, because files thusly stored are vulnerable to data corruption. Case in point: the Apple Keychain used for storing passwords has had corruption problems as reported in MacWorld. The article reported an even greater problem exists trying to recover Keychain data if Encryption is enabled.

I really like the look of the new iMac, but I am having a hard time convincing myself to indulge in a computer that I cannot get inside.
 
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