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Why is it that the drugs you take...
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neut said:
I have a genetic disease that (among other things) causes the end of my small intestine to swell shut and therefore no food to pass through. I'm sure you can do the rest of the math.. meds keep me alive and out of the hospital.
I'm not so sure that getting stoned, deep breathing, and drinking more water (jebus, is that even POSSIBLE?) is going to help that.
I have a feeling a lot of peoples problems come from not actually wanting to be well ... that is usually refered to as addiction. I find most people that are addicting to being sick refer to their pills as meds. Your turning yourself into a mental patients; don't forget that you're human first. 
peace and take care.
peace and take care.
neut said:I have a feeling a lot of peoples problems come from not actually wanting to be well ... that is usually refered to as addiction. I find most people that are addicting to being sick refer to their pills as meds. Your turning yourself into a mental patients; don't forget that you're human first.
peace and take care.
Man, that just cleared everything up for me.
Have fun with your weed and opium poppies.
yellow said:
What was used to create your meds in the first place? Do you know what it was dirived from? There's nothing wrong with taking pills ... i just believe you should fully educate yourself about what it is that is supposed to fix you.
I've been diagnosed with depression and feel it creeping in on me all the time. No way im getting sucked into the pill race ...
peace | neut
I gave up being a stoner years ago.. but I wasn't dealing with Crohn's then.. maybe there IS a connection?
I think you should flesh out that there is a distinction in what you believe.. pills for physiological problems versus ones that are (IYO) psychological..
I have no idea what was used to create my meds. All I know is that they keep me (more or less) alive, but I don't like them and I'm trying 'alternatives' in treatment that aren't drug related. I very much want to lessen the amount of meds I take.
I think you should flesh out that there is a distinction in what you believe.. pills for physiological problems versus ones that are (IYO) psychological..
I have no idea what was used to create my meds. All I know is that they keep me (more or less) alive, but I don't like them and I'm trying 'alternatives' in treatment that aren't drug related. I very much want to lessen the amount of meds I take.
iGary said:Man, that just cleared everything up for me.
Have fun with your weed and opium poppies.
Im not providing an answer in a pill if that's what you're looking for ... just asking that people educate themselves about what they're doing.
Zofran was like $50 a pill. Works great though, no appreciable side effects.
Lovenox was $300 a shot. Left big bruises.
Epo was $1000 a shot. No side effects that I noticed.
Nupogen was $3000 a shot. No side effects that I noticed.
Insurance company hated me. $10 copay baby.
On the other hand.
Warfarin was $3 for a bottle of 50. Same price for different dosages. (Take 1 pill of the 3 and then half a pill of the 5... Take half the 3 and half a five... Work it out so you get 6.5 mg.) That gave me a slightly ill feeling.
Oxycodone was $5 for a bottle of 100. For a while I was popping those like candy. Occasionally when mixed in large numbers with other things a slightly fuzzy feeling.
Prednisone was $8 for for a bottle of 100. If I ever decide to curl up with a drug and die this is it. Well this and bourbon. It has got to be one of the greatest drugs known to man. The only problem is you don't understand what hungry means until you've had this. Its the munchies times 10.
Lovenox was $300 a shot. Left big bruises.
Epo was $1000 a shot. No side effects that I noticed.
Nupogen was $3000 a shot. No side effects that I noticed.
Insurance company hated me. $10 copay baby.
On the other hand.
Warfarin was $3 for a bottle of 50. Same price for different dosages. (Take 1 pill of the 3 and then half a pill of the 5... Take half the 3 and half a five... Work it out so you get 6.5 mg.) That gave me a slightly ill feeling.
Oxycodone was $5 for a bottle of 100. For a while I was popping those like candy. Occasionally when mixed in large numbers with other things a slightly fuzzy feeling.
Prednisone was $8 for for a bottle of 100. If I ever decide to curl up with a drug and die this is it. Well this and bourbon. It has got to be one of the greatest drugs known to man. The only problem is you don't understand what hungry means until you've had this. Its the munchies times 10.
yellow said:
I have a hormone deficiency (among other things) that caused my body to grow up in a way which is was not intended and therefore causing me some severe identity issues, a lot of anxiety and a ******** of depression and confusion. I'm sure you can do the rest of the math.. my meds keep me sane and away from lethal dose of prescription pills.
I find it difficult to believe that pot (although I like it sometimes) or drinking a lot of water or breathing really deep is going to provide my body with something it doesn't have!
neut said:
What really get's on my nerves is that you are lumping people who take medications, whether it is for digestive problems, psychiatric problems, hormonal problems into this group of people you infer are ignorant.
I've been dealing with depression since I was 18. I've tried all your ju-ju bead, new age, all natural, far east (lemme tell you, you name it and I've tried it) and they didn't work.
What I take now makes me tired, but I can concentrate and enjoy today, which is the only thing we're promised. Do I think there are potential long term problems with some ofthese medications? Sure, it's not beyond comprehension at all. But to walk in here and call people addicts is fricking crass.
Done with you on this.
vniow said:
I'd have to agree with you there. I've found it very hard to believe over the years that I could "think" my way out of depressions. What I cope with is a drop in the bucket in comparison with what most people here cope with.
if marijuana were the end all be all of cures, Bob Marley might still be here it might be phenomenal in some regards but it isn't a blanket cure/prophylactic for everything. (and neither are opiates, with which i also have extensive personal knowledge of) generalizations seldom work.
it might be phenomenal in some regards but it isn't a blanket cure/prophylactic for everything. (and neither are opiates, with which i also have extensive personal knowledge of) generalizations seldom work.
iGary said:
iGary ... i don't think your doing anything wrong. From you post i think you have a terrible atitude, but until now i have not lumped anyone here into ignorant catagories ... i merely lent my opinion and experiance to your drugs thread. I don't understand the hostility towards natural medicine and education. Im no doctor. I don't pretend to be %100 healthy from my health regimine, but i don't think anyone ever feels normal. Life is experianced through a pshychedalic trip prvided by your own mind (do your research) i would think learning about you mind and body would be the best step in fixing yourself. I never said anything about you or anyone else here .... and if i did sing;e anyone out i applogize.
Just sharing my view which (obviously) is not shared by many. I'd rather eat a plant than a pill ...
Here's an idea ... you cannot cure life! We all can't be androids ... or can we?
I only suggested researching pot and opiates as a starting point to natural healing. Why does eveyone want everything to be easy? Is life supposed to be found in a pill? Pain is life ... and many other things. Enjoy it while you can.
Sorry for hijacking you thread iGary!
peace | neut
yellow said:
Yah, hate it too.
Damn thing did awful things to my food budget...
hungry hungry hungry hungry gnaws on hand
Edit: Actually, I have mixed feelings about it since it *does* work very well. Just not a good thing to use longer than absolutely neccessary.
neut said:
better than [eating] crow i imagine.
while i understand and actually agree on some level, it is just the generalizations that i found inaccurate. the principle works in many regards though, i'm not totally disagreeing here or anything.
yellow said:
I know that feeling. Its great and its terrible at the same time. Hunger like you've never felt, moodiness, irritability, zits. At the same time there is so little pain and so much energy and joy. When I first got on it, I went from not being able to walk 50 feet to walking miles.
iBlue said:better than [eating] crow i imagine.
while i understand and actually agree on some level, it is just the generalizations that i found inaccurate. the principle works in many regards though, i'm not totally disagreeing here or anything.
Just trying to get people to think different in here. I didn't realize forum posts were on the level of doctors notes and university research. Generalizations were used to show certain points of view and should never be taken as fact. Of course it's not it's a generalization.
Do people even think anymore? I'm really surprised at peoples responses here ... PC users get away with more than what i've suggested in this thread.
Thanks fellow mac users; nice community. I respect all of your medical problems, but when your posting personal info in a public place i would expect a certain level of maturity. Thanks for the kind response Blue.
peace | neut
Can't say I noticed that... Only difference is that I gradually go from being a picky eater to one who eats anything. Including stuff that I normally find replusive.yellow said:
Hmm... I do remember eating lots and lots of eggs, though I'm not sure if there's any connection.
yellow said:
High energy value foods. I started putting cream and sugar in my coffee and it was tasting good. Butter on everything. Lots of sugar and grease.
As for disgusting. I ate food out of the trash can. It was "clean", but still. I still find it hard to let food set even though I've been off the stuff for a couple of years.
Hmm.. similar for me I guess. This taper, it's all about the Chicken Noodle Soup and Pop Tarts. Last taper, it was all about the donuts. Previous taper it was all about the fried chicken. Grease, sugar, and SALT.
