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MS bought Skype, but it's not originally an MS product.

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Sorry guys, I'm on the job hunt right now and don't have tons of time. I'm definitely open to others submitting some.

I actually just ordered an iPhone 5s and will be installing an SSD in my MBP this week, so I'll try to capture some videos of at least my current machine using the 5400rpm drive.

Does anyone know if it's possible to install apps at the Apple store on machines, or will they all require admin rights? I realized that since most are 3rd party apps I'm not sure how to best do this.

Also, to reiterate, I don't see why people think I'm trolling. I'm not a fanboy in either direction, and have been on Mac / OSX for > 2 years now. I always felt this way since I got the mac, but figured I would get used to it. I have not.

I posted this conversation to try to figure out if it's an actual time difference or simply a perceived one (bouncing dock/etc). For MS apps, there's ABSOLUTELY a clear difference. That's not debatable. I'm more curious about other apps.

I'm very interested in this as well and would appreciate if someone would follow up on this with some actual tests. If it's a matter of milliseconds I don't really care. But seconds is a big difference IMO. Maybe SSD's make the difference unnoticeable?
 
Never had this problem. 2006 C2D 2.0 mini launches Firefox 25 in less than a second, after clean startup, and it's running 10.8.4.

Hackintosh in the office is even faster on 10.9.0, its almost realtime.
 
Hmm strange I've an old Macbook pro with a SSD that opens apps very fast!
That SSD isn't running anywhere near its potential because of the older tech of the laptop but even so its running fast for me. I guess your issue could be bad hardware or a messed up install or over expectation :p
 
I'm very interested in this as well and would appreciate if someone would follow up on this with some actual tests. If it's a matter of milliseconds I don't really care. But seconds is a big difference IMO. Maybe SSD's make the difference unnoticeable?

I do think that SSD's are masking the problem considerably.
 
On my 2013 MBA almost all my daily apps (Office, OmniFocus/Plan/Graffle) open in less than 1 second, with a few maybe taking 2 (Aperture, Photoshop). None of the OSX apps take more than a second.

Certainly not noticeably slower than any of the equivalents running in a Win 7 VM.

You need a new machine :D
 
On my 2013 MBA almost all my daily apps (Office, OmniFocus/Plan/Graffle) open in less than 1 second, with a few maybe taking 2 (Aperture, Photoshop). None of the OSX apps take more than a second.

Certainly not noticeably slower than any of the equivalents running in a Win 7 VM.

You need a new machine :D

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Running Windows 7 in a VM? That'd make a difference.
 
Well I'd think there would be more people/studies complaining about this if it were true... Maybe the OP's system is running slow because of other issues. Is it a clean install? Why don't you time app launches on a clean install of Mavericks with an iPhone or something?
 
Honestly - how often do you launch apps? My laptop, which I move around a lot, probably launches office about once a month, although I use it daily. I just don't quit apps, and don't shut down often. Launch times are totally irrelevant.
 
Honestly - how often do you launch apps? My laptop, which I move around a lot, probably launches office about once a month, although I use it daily. I just don't quit apps, and don't shut down often. Launch times are totally irrelevant.

Disagree. What about people that need to use Bootcamp regularly?
 
Honestly - how often do you launch apps? My laptop, which I move around a lot, probably launches office about once a month, although I use it daily. I just don't quit apps, and don't shut down often. Launch times are totally irrelevant.


Same with me. I might close the last window in Pages but I don't quit the app. Also I might shut the lid on my Macbok but I don't turn it off. It can sleep for days. Why are people quitting apps and turning off the computer? The power savings is tiny.

As for the speed to launch, how are you measuring? Do you count the time only until the splash screen is up or until you can begin using the app.

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Disagree. What about people that need to use Bootcamp regularly?

Why do people need to use Bootcamp? VMware Fusion will run anything. Wine will run many Windows apps.
 
Same with me. I might close the last window in Pages but I don't quit the app. Also I might shut the lid on my Macbok but I don't turn it off. It can sleep for days. Why are people quitting apps and turning off the computer? The power savings is tiny.

As for the speed to launch, how are you measuring? Do you count the time only until the splash screen is up or until you can begin using the app.

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Why do people need to use Bootcamp? VMware Fusion will run anything. Wine will run many Windows apps.

And things that are graphically intensive? Don't tell me you'd play games virtualized.
 
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