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Why is the iPhone 4 still selling well?
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But does it control an Apple TV? I see no mention of that. And isn't that the reverse-engineered program by the DVD-breaking guy? Will it keep working? How can we be sure? Isn't this likely to be broken many times in the future?
And what do you sync contacts with since MobileMe won't work? Using g-mail doesn't seem to work too well, many of the fields are different between iOS and Google. Does it really sync everything between Address Book on the Mac and on the iPhone? I set it up for my father-in-law with his iPhone and it didn't seem to really be a perfect match as the fields didn't all match up.
Can you buy a paid-version of Angry Birds yet? I think so now, but the fact that they couldn't figure out how to make money on the Android market for so long really bothers me. If the most successful game has such a hard time what chance do the smaller ones have?
And has Android made its interface feel nicer? Does it rubber-band now? Or does Apple still sue anyone who has that? I haven't played with one recently, maybe that's changed. And what about the hardware? It doesn't bother you that the back of that phone is ugly as hell? That's not the most important thing, but it kind of matters a little bit. *
Because as my questions above illustrate, every answer you come up with creates yet more uncertainty in my mind. I don't want to jump into something that seems more confusing the more I learn. Answers to questions should be making me feel better, not worse.
* EDIT: And yeesh...it's a 4.3" screen? With a plastic body? And this sounds appealing to you?
I need to buy a car for going to work, occasionally passing people on the highway, maybe making some long distance trips.
I could buy a race car with 1000 horsepowers and eleventy-two turbos, plus a supercharger.
Or, I could buy a modest car with four doors, a simple 4 cylinder with direct injection for a little more oomph, and a trunk that isn't filled with nitrous bottles and large speakers.
If I'm going to live on a race track, I'm going to pick the racecar.
If I'm going to live a "normal" life, I'm going to buy the modest car.
It astounds me why people think they need 32gigawatts of power on a smartphone. Sure, it's nice to have something quick, but it's a phone. It can't play Crysis.
As far as I'm concerned, an iPhone 4 is just as fast as this new Samsung Milkyway or whatever, because in my experience, none of the apps available for the device make it "lag", yet, at least not for myself, and nobody is going to develop apps that the phone can't handle. I don't have to "wait" for Safari to open, I don't have to "wait" on my music or videos, why should I throw out my iPhone to purchase a Samsung whatever when it's already instantaneous.
I realize that more power and higher specs would result in "higher quality apps", and believe me, I don't want to step in the way of progression, I'm all for progression, but the grocery store isn't any harder to get to without a race car.
I'm not knocking your decision, by any means, I've toyed with Android a little, and I do find the OS interesting. But phones are far different from computers, where specs actually make a real difference, so they should be treated as such.
I could buy a race car with 1000 horsepowers and eleventy-two turbos, plus a supercharger.
Or, I could buy a modest car with four doors, a simple 4 cylinder with direct injection for a little more oomph, and a trunk that isn't filled with nitrous bottles and large speakers.
If I'm going to live on a race track, I'm going to pick the racecar.
If I'm going to live a "normal" life, I'm going to buy the modest car.
It astounds me why people think they need 32gigawatts of power on a smartphone. Sure, it's nice to have something quick, but it's a phone. It can't play Crysis.
As far as I'm concerned, an iPhone 4 is just as fast as this new Samsung Milkyway or whatever, because in my experience, none of the apps available for the device make it "lag", yet, at least not for myself, and nobody is going to develop apps that the phone can't handle. I don't have to "wait" for Safari to open, I don't have to "wait" on my music or videos, why should I throw out my iPhone to purchase a Samsung whatever when it's already instantaneous.
I realize that more power and higher specs would result in "higher quality apps", and believe me, I don't want to step in the way of progression, I'm all for progression, but the grocery store isn't any harder to get to without a race car.
I'm not knocking your decision, by any means, I've toyed with Android a little, and I do find the OS interesting. But phones are far different from computers, where specs actually make a real difference, so they should be treated as such.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
It's the same reason hardly anybody buys a Dodge Viper versus buying a Toyota Camry. Yes, all that nonsense about what's under the hood may get the rocks off for about .05 percent of the population. I'm an ubernerd and I really don't care. I went through so many years of the "THIS HAS A PROCESSOR THAT'S 200 MEGAHERTZ FASTER! OOOOH!" phase that I just grew sick of it.
With desktop applications, I think a lot of people need all the horses they can get. I know that's the case at work with our aging Power Mac G5 towers trying to run OS 9 apps. Thankfully we've got new iMacs in and are training on the software that is finally not on the verge of being old enough to drive.
But on mobile devices, most of what is done doesn't require the last 10 percent of processing power that is the difference between most phones. AP Mobile doesn't need an 8Ghz quadruple core processor. Angry Birds doesn't need 10 terabytes of RAM.
If you want to talk specs, talk to me when 4G hits the iPhone -- more specifically Verizon. I've gotten sick of my dropped calls in my own darn house and so I plan to switch when there is a Verizon 4G iPhone. I've got a year left on my contract, and that's the spec that slows down most anything in America.
My uncle got a refurb iMac a couple of years ago with a 256kbps Internet connection. THAT is the biggest bottleneck to everyone I know of. I'm at 6Mbps and sometimes think it's sloooow when I'm downloading very big files. Same with my iPhone and about 2.5Mbps.
Why do you care that the iPhone 4 is still selling?
The iPhone will ALWAYS be superior over any Android device. This will never change. Why? Because the company, being Apple... Is just amazing. And I'm talking customer service wise. Something happens to your iPhone, you just bring it to Apple and the majority of the time you walk out saying "Wow I can't believe they gave me a brand new iPhone." Or "I can't believe they were such great help."
I remember when I had a problem with my iPod and it had to be shipped in for repairs. I called them and explained the problem and a day later I received a box in the mail from Apple that had the prepaid shipping fees and all the protection in the box to protect my iPod. I didn't even ask for it, nor did they mention it. Little things like that make the difference.
People don't just buy the iPhone because of the phone, they buy the product because of the company. If Google released an iPad 2 (Identical to Apple's iPad) I bet it still wouldn't sell as many units as the iPad 2 would from an Apple store.
I use to own an Android device and I had a major problem with my phone and it just stopped working. I'd get it to turn on sometimes, and other times it just would freeze up and do nothing. I called the company and I got no answer. I left a message to ask them to call back... a week goes by, still no call. I call again... I get an answer, and then I'm put on hold for an hour with STILL no one picking up on the other side. That was the last time I'll ever buy an Android phone. Their phones aren't bad, but their customer service is just garbage. And not to mention, once you buy the phone, you're stuck with it like that. Every year you're able to upgrade your iPhone to the latest iOS. (As long as the phone is eligible for the upgraded iOS.) Which makes your phone seem brand new almost every year. That's another thing I love.
Oh and not to mention, when you buy an Android phone, it's obsolete in a month.
Apple is just a better company, and that's why they are so successful. They don't need to release a phone every two weeks to 'stay in the game'.
The iPhone will ALWAYS be superior over any Android device. This will never change. Why? Because the company, being Apple... Is just amazing. And I'm talking customer service wise. Something happens to your iPhone, you just bring it to Apple and the majority of the time you walk out saying "Wow I can't believe they gave me a brand new iPhone." Or "I can't believe they were such great help."
I remember when I had a problem with my iPod and it had to be shipped in for repairs. I called them and explained the problem and a day later I received a box in the mail from Apple that had the prepaid shipping fees and all the protection in the box to protect my iPod. I didn't even ask for it, nor did they mention it. Little things like that make the difference.
People don't just buy the iPhone because of the phone, they buy the product because of the company. If Google released an iPad 2 (Identical to Apple's iPad) I bet it still wouldn't sell as many units as the iPad 2 would from an Apple store.
I use to own an Android device and I had a major problem with my phone and it just stopped working. I'd get it to turn on sometimes, and other times it just would freeze up and do nothing. I called the company and I got no answer. I left a message to ask them to call back... a week goes by, still no call. I call again... I get an answer, and then I'm put on hold for an hour with STILL no one picking up on the other side. That was the last time I'll ever buy an Android phone. Their phones aren't bad, but their customer service is just garbage. And not to mention, once you buy the phone, you're stuck with it like that. Every year you're able to upgrade your iPhone to the latest iOS. (As long as the phone is eligible for the upgraded iOS.) Which makes your phone seem brand new almost every year. That's another thing I love.
Oh and not to mention, when you buy an Android phone, it's obsolete in a month.
Apple is just a better company, and that's why they are so successful. They don't need to release a phone every two weeks to 'stay in the game'.
Because it works for them.
Quite a few of us tech-savvy individuals have parlayed our knowledge into a living, in which we're paid to produce results and solve problems for other people. If I'm too busy solving my own problems, or deciding which Android kernel I want to compile to take full advantage of the blistering specs that I've supposedly spent so much time drooling over, then that's less time I have for helping others... and earning money.
Or.... I can just use what works elegantly with a minimum of fuss.
Additionally, OS X (and iOS) has be pretty good about making the most of the hardware. The hardware doesn't need to be blindingly fast or cutting edge to make the software function well. And so, there's less of a need to ditch phones every month for the latest and greatest for the sake of having it... unless you happen to be the type that likes to boast about how your phone has the fastest clock speed.
Personally, I have better things to do than sit in a basement all day and boast about my cell phone's clock speed. Like, communicate with other people ON my phone to arrange to meet up with them and you know, be social. But, that's just me.
Also, I think having a Mac and an iPad (as I do and apparently you as well), it would make LESS sense to then ditch the iPhone for an android device. Sure those hardware specs are great, but now I have two mobile ecosystems to deal with, and two sets of apps to manage. No thanks.
When the rumors about the 5 not coming out until late summer started, im sure many people said screw it and just bought the 4.
Because it works for them.
Quite a few of us tech-savvy individuals have parlayed our knowledge into a living, in which we're paid to produce results and solve problems for other people. If I'm too busy solving my own problems, or deciding which Android kernel I want to compile to take full advantage of the blistering specs that I've supposedly spent so much time drooling over, then that's less time I have for helping others... and earning money.
Or.... I can just use what works elegantly with a minimum of fuss.
Additionally, OS X (and iOS) has be pretty good about making the most of the hardware. The hardware doesn't need to be blindingly fast or cutting edge to make the software function well. And so, there's less of a need to ditch phones every month for the latest and greatest for the sake of having it... unless you happen to be the type that likes to boast about how your phone has the fastest clock speed.
Personally, I have better things to do than sit in a basement all day and boast about my cell phone's clock speed. Like, communicate with other people ON my phone to arrange to meet up with them and you know, be social. But, that's just me.
Also, I think having a Mac and an iPad (as I do and apparently you as well), it would make LESS sense to then ditch the iPhone for an android device. Sure those hardware specs are great, but now I have two mobile ecosystems to deal with, and two sets of apps to manage. No thanks.
This. I'm as big of a nerd as the next guy, and sure I like tweaking/modding/working with my phone/computer, but ultimately, when I'm dying, I'd rather have friends next to me than a super fast phone/computer.
"Sorry guys, can't come out tonight, flashing the latest Android 2.1 ROM to my phone tonight to see how high it benchmarks."
It's about as sad as a guy who restores cars and never gets to drive them. Computers and phones are tools like anything else. The less downtime/higher reliability a tool has, the better. It seems people these days are more concerned about spending time with their tools as opposed to getting the job done and doing something else.
And to relate to cars again. OEM parts blow aftermarket parts out of the water. Compare an OEM bumper to an aftermarket bumper and the difference is clear. Don't get me wrong, there are great aftermarket products out there, but who knows more about a product than its creator?
I think of Windows/Android as aftermarket in this metaphor. They're not tied into the hardware like iPhone/iOS or Mac/OS X. It's just, "Kay, build a computer/phone, throw Windows/Android on it. Hope it works!"
Agreed.
I've borrowed a friend's Android phone for a few days. While I can understand why people enjoy it. To be honest, i think the biggest thing i missed was the notification system, and the UI. But all that's to change in the coming iOS 5 anyway.
iOS is a much better operating system than Android, it makes using a phone easy, like how it always should be.
The iPhone 4 is still selling well because it's an amazing phone, better than majority of the phones in the market.
Don't mean to be rude, but you're sounding like an ignorant kid.
I'm only going to reply to points I haven't already covered in a previous reply.
I've been using an iPhone for ages. I'm currently using a Mac and an iPad. That's a testiment that I think this way. However, disregarding all the specs, I would want a phone that is going to work when I shove an unconverted, full-HD anime episode at it, and play it without a hassle.
Uhh...haven't had that on the SGS II yet. I think that's a rumor people seem to think when they've played with cheap Android handsets, assuming it's representative of the real experience.
And as for the unregulated Android Market, yeah, I do like the App Store's layout more. It does take more time to find what you want, but in the end, you can find it.
Haha, don't worry. I'm quite happy with my purchase and I still have an iPad.
I don't own an Apple TV, so I don't quite understand what you mean by controlling it. I had the Remote app for my iPhone 4 and I used it to control iTunes. If you're expecting the same with an Apple TV, wouldn't the built-in controls for the media player while streaming the movie to the Apple TV act as the controls?
Unless you mean for stuff like Netflix and YouTube. I don't see why you can't just use that physical remote the Apple TV comes with.
I've actually never used MobileMe. I've always just synced my contacts by plugging the iPhone into the Mac, so in my case, when I switch to Android, nothing's really changed.
lol, no. It doesn't rubber band. I mentioned before that Android will never beat iOS in terms of polish, but that's not going to stop me jumping ship to a superior piece of tech when the gap becomes too large. Sure, it has stopped me for many years but this time the SGS II's specs and usability are just too great to ignore.
Good response. I wouldn't toss out my iPhone 4 either if I didn't need spend hours every day watching anime on the bus.
Well, since my iPhone 4 was jailbroken, I've never actually walked into a Genius bar to get help. Whenever it encountered any problems, I had to take care of it myself. Apple's customer service is something I've experienced before with my Macs, and I do know it's great. However, since the iPhone has to be jailbroken to be functional, it's something I've never experienced and having no customer service means nothing to me. Also, the SGS II ships with a 2 year warranty.
As for Android phones being obsolete in a month, that argument used to work until Google announced that all released Android handsets must be able to receive the latest firmware for 18 months after release. That matches iOS devices in terms of longevity.
Ha, you're absolutely right there. Why did I have a 3GS for a whole year instead of jumping ship to the HTC Droid Incredible? For the same reason as you, of course. iOS doesn't need a lot of specs to function incredibly well, and that's something I've always applauded Apple for.
I'm jumping to the SGS II this time because of a practical need I have of requiring it to play high definition video files. I know this isn't possible unless you have hardware acceleration. When I saw the iPad 2 couldn't do it (due to iOS's restrictions), I lost hope that iPhone 5 will be able to, so I couldn't help but switch. It's not a matter of whether iOS can run well without much specs - it's how it's restrictive to developers that they can't even make a media player that takes advantage of the A5 chip.
I've been using an iPhone for ages. I'm currently using a Mac and an iPad. That's a testiment that I think this way. However, disregarding all the specs, I would want a phone that is going to work when I shove an unconverted, full-HD anime episode at it, and play it without a hassle.
Uhh...haven't had that on the SGS II yet. I think that's a rumor people seem to think when they've played with cheap Android handsets, assuming it's representative of the real experience.
And as for the unregulated Android Market, yeah, I do like the App Store's layout more. It does take more time to find what you want, but in the end, you can find it.
Haha, don't worry. I'm quite happy with my purchase and I still have an iPad.
I don't own an Apple TV, so I don't quite understand what you mean by controlling it. I had the Remote app for my iPhone 4 and I used it to control iTunes. If you're expecting the same with an Apple TV, wouldn't the built-in controls for the media player while streaming the movie to the Apple TV act as the controls?
Unless you mean for stuff like Netflix and YouTube. I don't see why you can't just use that physical remote the Apple TV comes with.
I've actually never used MobileMe. I've always just synced my contacts by plugging the iPhone into the Mac, so in my case, when I switch to Android, nothing's really changed.
lol, no. It doesn't rubber band. I mentioned before that Android will never beat iOS in terms of polish, but that's not going to stop me jumping ship to a superior piece of tech when the gap becomes too large. Sure, it has stopped me for many years but this time the SGS II's specs and usability are just too great to ignore.
Good response. I wouldn't toss out my iPhone 4 either if I didn't need spend hours every day watching anime on the bus.
Well, since my iPhone 4 was jailbroken, I've never actually walked into a Genius bar to get help. Whenever it encountered any problems, I had to take care of it myself. Apple's customer service is something I've experienced before with my Macs, and I do know it's great. However, since the iPhone has to be jailbroken to be functional, it's something I've never experienced and having no customer service means nothing to me. Also, the SGS II ships with a 2 year warranty.
As for Android phones being obsolete in a month, that argument used to work until Google announced that all released Android handsets must be able to receive the latest firmware for 18 months after release. That matches iOS devices in terms of longevity.
Because it works for them.
Quite a few of us tech-savvy individuals have parlayed our knowledge into a living, in which we're paid to produce results and solve problems for other people. If I'm too busy solving my own problems, or deciding which Android kernel I want to compile to take full advantage of the blistering specs that I've supposedly spent so much time drooling over, then that's less time I have for helping others... and earning money.
Or.... I can just use what works elegantly with a minimum of fuss.
Additionally, OS X (and iOS) has be pretty good about making the most of the hardware. The hardware doesn't need to be blindingly fast or cutting edge to make the software function well. And so, there's less of a need to ditch phones every month for the latest and greatest for the sake of having it... unless you happen to be the type that likes to boast about how your phone has the fastest clock speed.
Personally, I have better things to do than sit in a basement all day and boast about my cell phone's clock speed. Like, communicate with other people ON my phone to arrange to meet up with them and you know, be social. But, that's just me.
Also, I think having a Mac and an iPad (as I do and apparently you as well), it would make LESS sense to then ditch the iPhone for an android device. Sure those hardware specs are great, but now I have two mobile ecosystems to deal with, and two sets of apps to manage. No thanks.
Ha, you're absolutely right there. Why did I have a 3GS for a whole year instead of jumping ship to the HTC Droid Incredible? For the same reason as you, of course. iOS doesn't need a lot of specs to function incredibly well, and that's something I've always applauded Apple for.
I'm jumping to the SGS II this time because of a practical need I have of requiring it to play high definition video files. I know this isn't possible unless you have hardware acceleration. When I saw the iPad 2 couldn't do it (due to iOS's restrictions), I lost hope that iPhone 5 will be able to, so I couldn't help but switch. It's not a matter of whether iOS can run well without much specs - it's how it's restrictive to developers that they can't even make a media player that takes advantage of the A5 chip.
Most people don't care about all of those specs you just spoke about. It's about ease of use & the user experience. iOS hits every mark. People just want something that works well.
Ok, well it's still stopping me. I imagine that's the case for whoever bought your iPhone from you as well.
Most people don't care about all of those specs you just spoke about. It's about ease of use & the user experience. iOS hits every mark. People just want something that works well.
No doubt apple products hold their freaking value.Try selling ur samsung phone a year after it was released and see how much u get vs a one year old iphone 4. I've never been impress with samsung, not because of their hardware but mostly their software and their commiting to keep the phone uptodate with the software. And I like to tinker with my phone and over at the xda dev forum, htc is still top dogs. But this phone is impressive, I just wouldnt buy it at full price.
It's true. My uncle (Who doesn't know much about tech) just purchased an iPhone. I told him to get the iPhone 4 but he purchased the 3GS instead. He said he absolutely loves it, and he couldn't care less about the specs. He just loves the phone and he's only had it for a few days.
Yeah a buddy of mine is the same, and he met a friend who was like "oh my EVO can open apps 2 seconds faster!"
Really, the iPhone is actually an amazing phone. OP, i may be wrong but from the looks of this discussion the reason (apart from better specs) you switched was because you couldn't watch Anime shows on a movie player on your iPhone? Isn't there a software to convert your Anime shows to Mp4?
You're not mistaken. Air Video is king. Been using it since it released, and it's a fabulous app. It's still much easier if you don't need to convert them though. Since the SGS II isn't any more expensive than a used iPhone 4, it was a perfect tradeoff, not to mention it'll probably out-spec the iPhone 5 too.
And I doubt iPhone 5 will have hardware acceleration if iPad 2 is any indication.
Yeah a buddy of mine is the same, and he met a friend who was like "oh my EVO can open apps 2 seconds faster!"
I was actually surprised at how quickly he picked up how things worked on the iPhone. Like I honestly didn't realize how simple it was to use. I did help him set up his exchange email accounts as that could be a little more complicated.
He mainly just uses the iPhone for email and stocks. It's perfect for him and it's pretty funny watching him use it. I'm pretty sure his iPhone is faster than his 9 year old computer that he still uses.
Galaxy S II (and any current android phone) won't ever get a video streaming Netflix app. Netflix has said they will only allow it on very specific Android phones in the future with a specific DRM hardware processor.
That alone was enough to get me to switch to the iPhone.
Android always has the 2nd best of applications. Ever tried Navigon on Android? Absolutely terrible compared to the iPhone version. You can see how developers really put their hard work into the iPhone apps and the Android ones are just pieced together.
Also Android doesn't have bluetooth keyboard support built into the OS the way the iPhone does. Very convenient for when I go to my college classes with nothing but a tiny foldable bluetooth keyboard and my iPhone and I'm able to type my notes while recording the lecture.
Another reason is the fact that Android phones are not as good as iPhones when it comes to resale value on craigslist.
Another reason is the battery life of Android phones pales in comparison to the iPhone.
I could care less about getting in some spec pissing contest over an extra 200 mghtz processing power that translates into a 0.3 second faster webpage load time. All I want is a phone that has Netflix & bluetooth keyboard capabilities, great battery life, and isn't replaced by something of the same kind with better specs in a month and I'm sold.
That alone was enough to get me to switch to the iPhone.
Android always has the 2nd best of applications. Ever tried Navigon on Android? Absolutely terrible compared to the iPhone version. You can see how developers really put their hard work into the iPhone apps and the Android ones are just pieced together.
Also Android doesn't have bluetooth keyboard support built into the OS the way the iPhone does. Very convenient for when I go to my college classes with nothing but a tiny foldable bluetooth keyboard and my iPhone and I'm able to type my notes while recording the lecture.
Another reason is the fact that Android phones are not as good as iPhones when it comes to resale value on craigslist.
Another reason is the battery life of Android phones pales in comparison to the iPhone.
I could care less about getting in some spec pissing contest over an extra 200 mghtz processing power that translates into a 0.3 second faster webpage load time. All I want is a phone that has Netflix & bluetooth keyboard capabilities, great battery life, and isn't replaced by something of the same kind with better specs in a month and I'm sold.
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Half of the answers on this thread went way over my head...i'm one of these people that doesn't care much about 'what's under the hood' so to speak. I do not have an iphone 4, I just got a very good second hand iphone 3gs to tide me over until the iphone 5 comes out.
Before I became an iphone user (which was 5 days ago to be exact) I had a HTC and a Samsung Galaxy. Even though I am an avid Macbook pro/ipod user...I never bothered with iphones for some reason.
HTC = Good
Samsung Galaxy S = Utterly *****, to be frank about it.
Now I know the SGS II is a huge improvement to the original SGS and is 'the rival' to iphone 5 with it's 8 mp camera etc...
BUT...my experience with Samsung is that they are useless and it's put me off ever buying another of their phones. The phone was laggy, the updates just don't come...they put the Gingerbread 2.3 update on the market, they took it off..people waited...it just got annoying.
Also, and this is only related to myself..I changed the rom on my SGS about...20 times...it's a constant effort, change the widgets, change the wallpaper, change the rom, update the launcher. In short I got sick of it, it became a drag. ''Why did you change the rom then?'' because the phone was SO SLOW...20 second lags to open apps, freezing constantly..it's put me off using android and I can happily say i'd never buy a Samsung phone again.
I am no expert with phones but as soon as I turned my iphone on it was love at first sight (can't believe what it would be if I had the iphone 4..or 5!) NO lags, NO need to change roms, change this, change that..it's pretty much perfect as it is, it runs smoothly, it works perfectly with my itunes music, it looks great, all the little attention to detail is brilliant, it's easy to use and one of (if not THE) best thing about it is that the apps are amazing compared to Android.
I know you asked about why the IPHONE 4 is selling well...and I answered for iphone in general...I would buy the iphone 4 right now if I could afford it (as I don't know when a sim lock version of iphone 5 will be available to me) but here in Turkey it's double the price of everywhere else and i'm not going to Europe any time soon. I'm just giving my reasons why I would not go back to Android...or more specifically...Samsung.
HTC Desire HD I would consider...if you gave it to me for free but iphone ALL.THE.WAY.
Before I became an iphone user (which was 5 days ago to be exact) I had a HTC and a Samsung Galaxy. Even though I am an avid Macbook pro/ipod user...I never bothered with iphones for some reason.
HTC = Good
Samsung Galaxy S = Utterly *****, to be frank about it.
Now I know the SGS II is a huge improvement to the original SGS and is 'the rival' to iphone 5 with it's 8 mp camera etc...
BUT...my experience with Samsung is that they are useless and it's put me off ever buying another of their phones. The phone was laggy, the updates just don't come...they put the Gingerbread 2.3 update on the market, they took it off..people waited...it just got annoying.
Also, and this is only related to myself..I changed the rom on my SGS about...20 times...it's a constant effort, change the widgets, change the wallpaper, change the rom, update the launcher. In short I got sick of it, it became a drag. ''Why did you change the rom then?'' because the phone was SO SLOW...20 second lags to open apps, freezing constantly..it's put me off using android and I can happily say i'd never buy a Samsung phone again.
I am no expert with phones but as soon as I turned my iphone on it was love at first sight (can't believe what it would be if I had the iphone 4..or 5!) NO lags, NO need to change roms, change this, change that..it's pretty much perfect as it is, it runs smoothly, it works perfectly with my itunes music, it looks great, all the little attention to detail is brilliant, it's easy to use and one of (if not THE) best thing about it is that the apps are amazing compared to Android.
I know you asked about why the IPHONE 4 is selling well...and I answered for iphone in general...I would buy the iphone 4 right now if I could afford it (as I don't know when a sim lock version of iphone 5 will be available to me) but here in Turkey it's double the price of everywhere else and i'm not going to Europe any time soon. I'm just giving my reasons why I would not go back to Android...or more specifically...Samsung.
HTC Desire HD I would consider...if you gave it to me for free
but iphone ALL.THE.WAY.
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While I'm not going to hold my breath for the API to be opened up, you can't really use the iPad2 as an indication of this feature being included in iOS5. We know that even the iPhone 3GS HW is capable of accelerated decoding and it's only the status of the API as private that is holding it back.
Apple has added hundreds of public API's with each iOS release. It's not out of the question for this to be a part of iOS5. The problem is that Apple could just as easily NOT add it...
If this feature is important to you, you made the right choice with the SGII.
a bird in the hand... or some such proverb
I think the iPhone 4 is doing well b/c of marketing and for most ppl, the specs are perfect enough, it's easy to use (not saying the others aren't, but the iphone ecosystem is incredibly easy - especially for non techie folks) and it's got a solid app base.
I think for the MKV files, I think it's great you're able to play them without conversion etc.. but for the average joe blows out there, they don't want, don't care and/or simply don't know what an mkv file is or how to play it. This plays into the simplicity of buying movies through itunes and either dloading right to the phone or syncing them in itunes.
the iPhone 4 'just works' for the avg person and I believe that's why it's doing well. Add that the aforementioned marketing behemoth that Apple is and it's a win-win.
I'm using the 3GS and waiting for the 5 to come out. I'll see what it offers and make a decision from there. For me, I just need a phone that has my client database on it (through Daylite) and the email/voicemail. The 3GS battery seems to be draining a bit faster these days. Almost 2 years old so I don't know if that is an issue or not. Time will tell.
In the end, I think competition for all manufacturers is a good thing. It pushes everyone
I think for the MKV files, I think it's great you're able to play them without conversion etc.. but for the average joe blows out there, they don't want, don't care and/or simply don't know what an mkv file is or how to play it. This plays into the simplicity of buying movies through itunes and either dloading right to the phone or syncing them in itunes.
the iPhone 4 'just works' for the avg person and I believe that's why it's doing well. Add that the aforementioned marketing behemoth that Apple is and it's a win-win.
I'm using the 3GS and waiting for the 5 to come out. I'll see what it offers and make a decision from there. For me, I just need a phone that has my client database on it (through Daylite) and the email/voicemail. The 3GS battery seems to be draining a bit faster these days. Almost 2 years old so I don't know if that is an issue or not. Time will tell.
In the end, I think competition for all manufacturers is a good thing. It pushes everyone
"I'm jumping to the SGS II this time because of a practical need I have of requiring it to play high definition video "
Well, that wasn't the subject of your post. You basically provoked an argument by disparaging people who still prefer the iPhone4.
If you want to cabbage patch over your purchase of a Galaxy, great, but don't be such an asshat.
Well, that wasn't the subject of your post. You basically provoked an argument by disparaging people who still prefer the iPhone4.
If you want to cabbage patch over your purchase of a Galaxy, great, but don't be such an asshat.