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Galaxy S II (and any current android phone) won't ever get a video streaming Netflix app. Netflix has said they will only allow it on very specific Android phones in the future with a specific DRM hardware processor.

That alone was enough to get me to switch to the iPhone.

Android always has the 2nd best of applications. Ever tried Navigon on Android? Absolutely terrible compared to the iPhone version. You can see how developers really put their hard work into the iPhone apps and the Android ones are just pieced together.

Also Android doesn't have bluetooth keyboard support built into the OS the way the iPhone does. Very convenient for when I go to my college classes with nothing but a tiny foldable bluetooth keyboard and my iPhone and I'm able to type my notes while recording the lecture.

Another reason is the fact that Android phones are not as good as iPhones when it comes to resale value on craigslist.

Another reason is the battery life of Android phones pales in comparison to the iPhone.

I could care less about getting in some spec pissing contest over an extra 200 mghtz processing power that translates into a 0.3 second faster webpage load time. All I want is a phone that has Netflix & bluetooth keyboard capabilities, great battery life, and isn't replaced by something of the same kind with better specs in a month and I'm sold.

Until then... Piss off :)

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.netflix.mediaclient&feature=search_result says hi.
 
Of course a new phone is going to have better hardware than the iPhone 4, it's several months old and technology goes fast.

I think it's mainly because of the OS though. There are so many problems people have with android phones with GPS sometimes. and the fact that your brand new phone may get like, what, 3 updates? Android phones aren't supported nearly as long as each iPhone is with new updates.

For the time frame the iPhone 4 was released, it had pretty good hardware.

The real reason I would wonder why the iPhone 4 is selling so well is because summer is coming up and the iPhone 5 is more likely than not going to be released over the summer.
 
Of course a new phone is going to have better hardware than the iPhone 4, it's several months old and technology goes fast.

I think it's mainly because of the OS though. There are so many problems people have with android phones with GPS sometimes. and the fact that your brand new phone may get like, what, 3 updates? Android phones aren't supported nearly as long as each iPhone is with new updates.

For the time frame the iPhone 4 was released, it had pretty good hardware.

The real reason I would wonder why the iPhone 4 is selling so well is because summer is coming up and the iPhone 5 is more likely than not going to be released over the summer.

My issue with Android is over how fragmented it's become. I can purchase a new phone and three months later it'll become obsolete because the carrier and maker of the phone are too cheap to update the device. Of course I can root it but why should I? Plus, there's no disagreeing that iOS apps are for the most part much better than their Android counterparts. I know this and own far more Android devices than iOS ones.
 

What a bunch of liars! :mad: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...future-android-d/&category=classic&postPage=1

"Unfortunately that doesn't seem to bode well for your existing Android device, but at least future phones won't have to look on Windows Phone 7 and iOS with envy."

Hmmm I guess it can only be used on 5 snapdragon processor phones atm. Wonder if it would ever come to the Galaxy S II...
 
What a bunch of liars! :mad: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...future-android-d/&category=classic&postPage=1

"Unfortunately that doesn't seem to bode well for your existing Android device, but at least future phones won't have to look on Windows Phone 7 and iOS with envy."

Hmmm I guess it can only be used on 5 snapdragon processor phones atm. Wonder if it would ever come to the Galaxy S II...

Huh. I wonder what would happen if I try to install it on a phone that isn't "supported." Now I need to find the apk...
 
My issue with Android is over how fragmented it's become. I can purchase a new phone and three months later it'll become obsolete because the carrier and maker of the phone are too cheap to update the device. Of course I can root it but why should I? Plus, there's no disagreeing that iOS apps are for the most part much better than their Android counterparts. I know this and own far more Android devices than iOS ones.

That is one thing that turned me towards the iPhone and away from Android, not being able to update to the latest version of the OS. Or getting a new phone running on an old version of Android.
 
I think the iPhone 4 is doing well b/c of marketing and for most ppl, the specs are perfect enough, it's easy to use (not saying the others aren't, but the iphone ecosystem is incredibly easy - especially for non techie folks) and it's got a solid app base.

I think for the MKV files, I think it's great you're able to play them without conversion etc.. but for the average joe blows out there, they don't want, don't care and/or simply don't know what an mkv file is or how to play it. This plays into the simplicity of buying movies through itunes and either dloading right to the phone or syncing them in itunes.

the iPhone 4 'just works' for the avg person and I believe that's why it's doing well. Add that the aforementioned marketing behemoth that Apple is and it's a win-win.

I'm using the 3GS and waiting for the 5 to come out. I'll see what it offers and make a decision from there. For me, I just need a phone that has my client database on it (through Daylite) and the email/voicemail. The 3GS battery seems to be draining a bit faster these days. Almost 2 years old so I don't know if that is an issue or not. Time will tell.

In the end, I think competition for all manufacturers is a good thing. It pushes everyone :)

Perfect. For the vast majority the 4 "just works". Works for my family. Heck we still have 2-3GS'.

The 5 will look like the 4 with new proximity sensors (not exposed like the white). Dual Core A5, internal antenna tweaks on the GSM, same RAM. No LTE.

Will also be some rendering of a 4 "Lite" based on the 4 to replace the Low End $49 3GS 8g.

June 2012 iPhone 6. Complete Expectation shattering design using Liquid Metal Technology, Dual Band, LTE, more RAM, works on any Network in the world. :apple:
 
That is one thing that turned me towards the iPhone and away from Android, not being able to update to the latest version of the OS. Or getting a new phone running on an old version of Android.

You think you see Fragmentation in Android now, LOL, give it another 12m. It will become the Vista of Mobil OS'. :apple:
 
You do realize I have a MacBook Air and an iPad, right?

I don't think you answered my question before quite well, to be honest. A lot of the white iPhones are being sold to people who have never owned an iPhone, and yes, they're going for a lot of eBay right now.

These people don't even have to worry about having already paid for a lot of apps. Why would these people choose something that's almost one year old with such mediocre hardware over something like the SGSII which completely destroy it, while not being more expensive (but actually cheaper?)

I have both an iPhone 4 and just received my new Galaxy S II.

Each of these are great phones, the Galaxy is only the second generation and already its greatly improved and a terrific performer. Yet specifications aside, both of these smartphones are outstanding. It's not about one being better than the other, they are just too different.

That's why I enjoy having choices. It's as simple as that.
 
You think you see Fragmentation in Android now, LOL, give it another 12m. It will become the Vista of Mobil OS'. :apple:

At least with Windows they don't come out with a new operating system nearly as often and you could get a phone running on the latest OS for your entire contract. Android just isn't that way, nor is any smartphone OS.

Really I think smartphone operating systems should become more like desktop Operating Systems. Smartphones can handle a lot of things that a computer can do, but their OS restricts them.

Like mobile versions of websites are crappy yet the Atomic browser on my iPhone (when I disguise it as Firefox 3) can do many things that they leave out in the mobile version of the website.
 
im guessing the average joe doesnt know doesnt know and doesnt care about processor speeds, or RAM they want what they like, its a given there is better specs on phones out there but im guessing people like iphone for the same reason i do, i like my ipod touch and I need a cell phone so why not combine them into 1 device

im guessing a huge majority of iphone users where ipod users first and have just wanted that familiarity

This for me. I use my iPhone more as an iPod than a phone. I've held off on Apple products until 2007 preferring the other mp3 vendors since I had more drag and drop control. But u know what the interface of all other players really sucked.
 
The main reason i like my iPhone is the amount of third party support for the thing. Still I'd pick up the SGS2 some time in the future
 
There are a couple of clear advantages to the iPhone, for me:

1. It's not going to be laggy and slow and neglected three months later when developers start releasing apps for the newest phone. Buyer's remorse hits as soon as you're comfortable with your new phone unless it's an iPhone.

2. I love indie games. You could spend all day scouring the app store and still find cool new games to download for pocket change or no money at all. The developers only have to ensure that it works for about 3 different devices.
 
conclusion: you'd buy the modest car even though you could buy the 1000hp one cheaper? Anyways, i think its a quite silly argument, even by the threat starter, that if you could buy a better phone for less money, why dont do it. the main point is, that both OS' have different user groups. so simple.

I myself own an iPod touch 2g and jailbroke it after a time, as i just hated not being able to customize the device the way i wanted. Of course, with the all-new (ok, not really anymore) iOS4 you are now even (!) able to choose wallpapers! But the iOS will never have the possibilities you have with Android in ways of customisation. That what counts for me, and i do not want the company to force me to use their UI. I want full control of my device, so i buy Android next. If i didnt care of that and just want a working phone, I would buy apple so simple.
You just cannot compare the devices as they have different user groups! (i can't say it often enough, as i cannot stand all this "comparing Android and iphone" all the time...)

You're saying just because the specs in the Samsung are higher, it's a better phone. Specs do NOT determine experience/if a phone is "better". It's software/hardware integration, and overall usability. You could have the most powerful phone in the world, but without good software to take FULL advantage of it, what's the point?

If the modest car cost me $20,000 and the street racer cost me $200, I would still buy the modest car. Do you have any idea what it's like to maintain a race car or how unreliable they are for daily use? When you're dealing with that much power, especially depending on the car, reliability decreases. Not to mention just the basic maintenance tasks that need to be done frequently.

The same goes for computers and hacking/customizing. The further you mod your phone/computer (car), the further you stray from stock, the more variables are introduced to your phone/computer (car) and the likelihood of problems developing dramatically increases. If I hack OS X to bits and customize it all to hell, change every graphic and image in the GUI, odds are when the next system update rolls around, I'm going to have a hell of a big job and/or mess on my hands.

Quick question, how old are you? I realize this is slightly creepy, but it's also relevant.

When I was in my younger days, I'd mod my tech all to bits. Custom this, custom firmware that, jailbreak this, blah blah blah. Now that I'm older, I just haven't got the time or energy to be playing around "maintaining" every electronic device I own because I want a custom icon theme or some garbage. After a long days work, the last thing I want to do is come home to a mess of a computer because I thought it'd be cool to mod it somehow.

Same goes for the car, again. Sure, I could probably mod the hell out of the modest car and get it to be just as fast as the 1000HP car if I wanted, but then I can kiss reliability goodbye. Why have a daily driver you can't drive daily?

Not to say I don't still modify my things, my iPhone is jailbroken, and I do still mod my PC's/Macs a little bit, but the amount of modification I do is minimal compared to what it used to be. If you are young (and I apologize if you're not), I imagine you'll find the same thing. As you'll get older, reliability will become more important to you, a desire for customization will stick around, but in the end, it's all about finding that good balance between modding and keeping it stock. This also applies to Android. I'm sure the more crap you put on there (themes, effects, whatever), the more piled up your phone is going to get, and reliability decreases. These devices are tools, I'd like to spend less time cleaning my tools and more time using them to get the current job done so I can do something else.

I'm not knocking you or your choices, so don't take any of the above as insults or anything, just stating facts/opinions. As I've said before, I like Android as much as the next guy, but the less time I spend working on it, the more time I can spend doing things in life that actually matter.

Less is more. I stand by that. So does Apple. I wish more people could see that.
 
Because It can do Facetime, has the best screen ever, doesn't fail, will be supported for more than a year by Apple, my kids can easily use it (1 and 3 years old), has allowed us to capture many precious moments in HD videos and HDR pictures, because the GPS is great, because the battery is great, because I have been waiting more than 10 years to have one, and it is an iPhone...if you don't have an iPhone...well you don't have an iPhone.
You can jailbreak anytime for those thing you say you can't do...
 
Galaxy S II (and any current android phone) won't ever get a video streaming Netflix app. Netflix has said they will only allow it on very specific Android phones in the future with a specific DRM hardware processor.

Until then... Piss off :)

I just though I would show you that I have netflix on my SGS2 plus amazon cloud music and androids new music service.....and a gorgeous 4.3 inch super amoled plus screen, two 1.2ghz processors, 1gb of ram, 16gb internal, a microsd card slot, and I can change my battery without negating my warranty.
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My favorite part is a comparison of a brand-new Android to a 10-month-old iPhone.
 
Yeah it's essintially the same debate that has been going on for years.

Sure maybe your android is "better" right now...


just wait until apple drops the next bomb, weather it be iPhone 5 or iOS5 or both........

it's going to be way better than anything out there.

Then android will copy it and the naysayers will be happy again.:D

Stupid question from an Android Owner,and a new iphone4...iOS5 comes out will we be able to upgrade to it on the iphone4?

As far as the Android vs iphone thing.I like them both. The iphone is more streamlined with better apps and very well designed.

The Droid has a bit more lag (fragmented OS over too many phones IMO) and worse apps,but the pull down notification bar is really nice for me,and I like being able to change the look a bit easier than the iphone without rooting or jail breaking either.In the end they're just phones and I have no loyalty to either,unless they want to pay me to.:p
 
My favorite part is a comparison of a brand-new Android to a 10-month-old iPhone.

My favorite part is the comparison to the iPhone 5... And it's not even out yet, nor does anyone know what it's going to have. :rolleyes:

Stupid question from an Android Owner,and a new iphone4...iOS5 comes out will we be able to upgrade to it on the iphone4?

Yes you will. The only features we may not get would be anything related to the new hardware. Other than that, we'll have iOS 5 on the iPhone 4.
 
I just though I would show you that I have netflix on my SGS2 plus amazon cloud music and androids new music service.....and a gorgeous 4.3 inch super amoled plus screen, two 1.2ghz processors, 1gb of ram, 16gb internal, a microsd card slot, and I can change my battery without negating my warranty.
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Looks like I might have to switch phones then :(

btw how did you get Netflix app to stream movies on your sgs2???

the Netflix team said the only Android phones it works on are HTC phones w/ snapdragon processors...
 
I dunno why your getting such a stiffy over a processor in a phone...seriously, its a PHONE. The iPhone 4 seems plenty fast to me, I click messages it opens...only thing that doesnt work good is folders and I think its not the phone but something software related. Every game I have touched works fine, every video streaming app works fine.

Funny thing on iOS, if there is a problem it is usually fixed in a couple weeks. From what I have heard and seen with Android, if there is a problem Google has to fix it then its delivered to Samsung, HTC, Motorola, etc and then they have to port it to the phone so 2-3 months at the earliest? Oh and I dont have to worry about it being outdated in 2 months, yes a new phone comes from Apple yearly but they still support and update the older phones until the hardware becomes outdated and cant support the new features.
 
Works 99% of the time

Ease of use (Huge plus for the older and/or non tech savvy)

Great support unlike any other manufacturer. I walked into a apple store and got my IP4 replaced in less than 20min, no hassle at all and friendly service. (reason was cause of faulty mic that only worked in speaker mode)

Most Apps (First to get most apps & apps seem higher quality in design compared other platforms)

Keeps getting better with updates. Instead of switching to differ phones in the same year, which is what a lot of non-iphone users do.

Overall the iPhones 4 is still selling well cause it's basically a worry free solid device that's still fast enough for the average users needs.

I don't care if the SGS2 wins a browser war by a few seconds. Anyone that feels they need to point this out just wasted the few saved seconds. ;)

SGS2 does seems like a monster of a phone to have. I think Android is just viewed as the latest "default" mobile OS, while Apple's iOS is still viewed as a premium mobile OS. This is why it's going to take more than amazing specs to topple iPhone as the top selling phone.
 
Stupid question from an Android Owner,and a new iphone4...iOS5 comes out will we be able to upgrade to it on the iphone4?

As far as the Android vs iphone thing.I like them both. The iphone is more streamlined with better apps and very well designed.

The Droid has a bit more lag (fragmented OS over too many phones IMO) and worse apps,but the pull down notification bar is really nice for me,and I like being able to change the look a bit easier than the iphone without rooting or jail breaking either.In the end they're just phones and I have no loyalty to either,unless they want to pay me to.:p

Yes. And that's the beauty of it.

Also... as for swapping out the batteries... I don't need to because the iPhone 4's battery life kicks ass unlike a lot of other android phones I know loolololol
 
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