Why is the iPod dying?

Discussion in 'iPod' started by Frisco, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. Frisco macrumors 68020

    Sep 24, 2002
    I doubt it's because of the Zune or other competitors.

    I still use and love my 1st Generation iPod 5GB everyday. Not everyone needs a smartphone, which ironically makes the user dumb.

    I just don't get it. Maybe Apple needs to bring back those iPod Silhouette commercials.
  2. EricNau Moderator emeritus


    Apr 27, 2005
    San Francisco, CA
    True, but for those of us who do "need" (or even want) a smartphone, our music is already in our pockets; no need to carry a second device.

    I imagine the decline of the iPod is directly proportional to the rise of the iPhone.
  3. rsnapeuk macrumors regular

    Oct 19, 2011
    I carry my iPod around with me all the time. And I update it every year. It's also my phone and internet communicator.
  4. Kissaragi macrumors 68020

    Nov 16, 2006
    The majority of people do want a smartphone, as proved by so many people going out and buying them.

    For those that don't then theres always going to be an alternative to buy, but its going to be a smaller and smaller marketshare.

    Just use your iPod and don't try to decide whats best for everyone else.
  5. Dulcimer macrumors 6502a


    Nov 20, 2012
    You have a 1st gen iPod! I want that!

    I'd love to own a tradition, click wheel iPod. I've been eyeing the Classic for a while now but I don't want to buy a device that's technically 6 years old. I'm hoping they'll update it with an SSD and better audio circuitry. I'm probably dreaming though :(
  6. sagnier macrumors regular

    Sep 19, 2007

    I'm still waiting for that 'internet communicator' to be released. Steve talked about it and then switched tack and started talking about something called iPhone instead...
  7. rsnapeuk macrumors regular

    Oct 19, 2011
    Are you getting it yet?

    A touch screen iPod
    A phone
    A revolutionary internet communicator....

    A touch screen iPod
    A phone
    A revolutionary internet communicator....

    We're calling it iPhone.
  8. CEmajr macrumors 601

    Dec 18, 2012
    Charlotte, NC
    It has been cannibalized by the iPhone.

    I still had my 160GB iPod Classic back when I had an iPhone 3G that was only 8GB and couldn't hold a fraction of my library. Now that Apple has come out with iTunes Match, I have my entire 90GB library accessible from my iPhone from anywhere even though the phone itself only has 32GB of storage. Makes the iPod obsolete for me now so I sold it a few years ago.
  9. Pakaku macrumors 68000


    Aug 29, 2009
    You probably sold it to someone who wants all of their music available locally ;)
  10. SusanK macrumors 68000

    Oct 9, 2012
    Apple want to sell iPhones

    I think Apple wants to sell iPhones and is concerned that iPod is a deterrent to that goal.

    I was at my local Apple store about three months ago. The new blue shirts always ask me why I don't have an iPhone. I don't have one because I don't want one.

    One gal working there asked me if I am a customer who comes in all the time but never buys anything when I expressed no interest in iPhone. In the the 5 preceding months I purchased a Mac, iPad and iPod Touch as well as an external drive, One to One and a few other goodies.

    The staff treats me well and I understand that there can be an unfortunate comment made as we are all human. Seems that not having iPhone is some type of sin at Apple.

    My suggestion is to look within as to why market share if falling. Bugging me (or any customer) about a product I will probably not buy is not the answer.
  11. Codestud macrumors member

    Nov 1, 2011
    My main "iPod" is my iPhone, but I still need the use of "classic" iPods both in the car and in my kitchen micro-system. So I think the market will still carry on, but it will be smaller.
  12. 7enderbender macrumors 6502a


    May 11, 2012
    North East US
    That would be sad. I still heavily rely on my 160GB Classic since it's the only device that can keep my entire music collection at a reasonable resolution.

    The problem is that most people don't care enough about quality (and quantity) and that case so iPhones (et al) are replacing music players, cameras, video devices etc.

    Another case where convenience will make quality disappear or at least very expensive. Just looked at the recent financial results posted by Canon. I think us users of professional camera gear need to brace for impact at some point.

    In audio it's different. More and more really great digital and analog technology is becoming available for musicians and producers. Problem is it doesn't really trickle down to the consumer. All is lost once you only listen to music on an iPhone with those horrible white headphones.
  13. racoop macrumors member

    Oct 13, 2012
    I travel a lot for work, and spend extended time in Africa each summer. An iPod is crucial for traveling where there is no internet or data access. I also hate schlepping a big clunky phone in my pocket. I'm a runner too, so the Shuffle is a critical piece of equipment.

    Sound quality is just fine for me as well with a decent pair of in-ear headphones. Long live iPods (I hope).
  14. RAPTORSKI macrumors regular


    Jan 24, 2013
    British Columbia
    I used to have an iPod Touch but I sold it in order to get myself an iPad. The bigger screen was totally worth it for me. My smartphone has totally killed the need to buy a new iPod so I don't see myself buying one anytime soon.

    I am interested in an iWatch however, especially if it has some useful features and looks great on your hand. All smartwatches I have seen so far are not nearly good enough for me to consider, the Galaxy Gear is not that bad but far too expensive for what it brings to the table.
  15. MrXiro macrumors 68040


    Nov 2, 2007
    Los Angeles
  16. notjustjay macrumors 603


    Sep 19, 2003
    Canada, eh?
    Well, yes and no. Not everyone needs a smartphone, you are right. But lots of people have them, for better or for worse. I see 12-year-old kids with iPhones or Android phones all the time. And virtually every kid I know who doesn't have a smartphone, does have an iPod touch.

    (And 90% of them have cracked screens, but that's a whole other rant...)

    So take away the segment of the population who owns a smartphone, a tablet, or an iPod touch style device (which for this discussion is basically a tiny tablet), and who is left? That is the remaining target audience for a classic iPod.

    There are financial reasons why Apple is more interested in pushing phones and tablets than in classic iPods. As you have demonstrated, you hang on to your iPod much, much longer than the typical smartphone or tablet user, who buys new hardware every few years. They also buy apps, for which Apple receives a 30% cut on every purchase. And they view ads, which nets Apple even more revenue.

    I still have a 30 GB iPod Video. It sits at my desk at work and I still use it occasionally.
  17. kunai, Oct 30, 2013
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2013

    kunai macrumors regular

    Jun 3, 2013
    You've summed up in words exactly what I've been trying to say but have never been able to.

    People hate quality. They don't care. They'd rather use Instagram with its crap 600x600 half-megapixel pseudo-photography pukey filter ***** than learn to shoot with a decent full-frame (or if they're ambitious, medium-format) single-lens reflex.

    It doesn't even have to be an SLR. Just getting a freaking interchangeable-lens camera like the Nikon One is five thousand times better, for god's sake. Filters look cheesy, tacky, and awful.

    The same with audio. Why have Beats become so popular? Advertising.

    Why have reputable audio brands like Sennheiser, Denon, AKG, Audio-Technica, Sony, Etymotic, Shure, and Klipsch gone away from the limelight? Because people don't care about quality, they care about looking cool and fitting in. Sigh... That's why CDs aren't produced in huge batches anymore; only people who want to play music in their car without having to futz around with their phone, and die-hard audiophiles buy CDs.

    Shame that they'll be gone in a decade or so, considering that they're still the best quality audio source. Vinyl is nice to listen to but is too colored and hiss remains on most tracks. MP3s are crap. CDs are great, Audio DVDs were even better, but unfortunately got killed because of the same reason: convenience v. quality.

    Why do people vote for the same crappy democratic or republican candidates every year instead of researching about third-parties for the future of our country? It's because staying within the party you were raised in is convenient, but who gives a crap about the future of our country! Hah!

    Why do people buy the same crappy, repetitive, awful, ear-grinding horrible tacky, cheesy pop music instead of expanding their horizons and experimenting with different music genres like rock, blues, jazz, hell, even classical? Convenience v. quality. Pop is easy to listen to. Other genres are harder. Rock, blues, and jazz have a lot in common: they're spontaneous, improvisatory, and much of the music is based off of formal theory, not 3 chords played over and over with a continuous "thumpin'" bass track in the background (which isn't even a real bass; it's just sloppy synth boosted fake bass).

    You know, if you are somebody who is rational, not swayed by emotion, and have the necessary educational credentials to prove that you know more than most others, sometimes you just have to stop, think, and realize just how stupid the masses are.

    Too stupid.

  18. 7enderbender macrumors 6502a


    May 11, 2012
    North East US

    Spot on.
  19. Rawkfist macrumors regular


    Jul 4, 2010
    I've had an iPhone since 2G and still use a 5th gen. Video daily. Sound quality being the primary reason. It's loaded with ALAC files I ripped from my CD collection that continues to grow. Quality over convenience. I'm sure this puts me in the minority.
  20. Consultant macrumors G5


    Jun 27, 2007
    Most people are now buying iOS devices instead of iPod.

    That's known for years.
  21. Ferc Kast macrumors regular

    Ferc Kast

    Sep 26, 2012
    Ohio, USA
    It also categorizes the current iOS product lines. :p

    A though screen iPod: iPod touch
    A phone: iPhone
    A revolutionary internet communicator: iPad
  22. coolguy4747 macrumors member


    Jun 26, 2010
    You don't need lossless audio to make an emotional connection to a song. Why are you listening to music if you're not getting emotionally involved?
  23. roadbloc macrumors G3


    Aug 24, 2009
    With the introduction of smartphones, the iPod is becoming a niche product. But, as an iPod Classic owner and an audiophile, I'd love to see a new generation Classic from Apple.
  24. AppleFanatic10 macrumors 68030


    Nov 2, 2010
    Encino, CA
    Because more and more people are buying iPhones. Let's be honest, do we really need an iPod and iPhone? Both do the same thing, but I would still use my 2nd gen. iPod Shuffle (if I could just find the correct syncing cable), just for using it in the car.
  25. Rawkfist macrumors regular


    Jul 4, 2010
    True. But since I have a ton of lossless audio and the ability to take a sizable portion of it with me, why not get my emotions involved with the highest fidelity my system can achieve?

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