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Why is the X home-screen badly designed?
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Vanilla35
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maka344
macrumors 68020
I guess by Apple’s design logic the space between the left and right edges HAVE to have the same space as between each column.
I remember i saw a video of someone who fixed the X Home screen in Photoshop. I’ll try to find it.
DNichter
macrumors G3
I’m sure they are thinking of some drastic changes to the home screen, but it needs to make sense. Similar to the home button, we were so used to operating our phones one way. They went and changed it all with the X and it feels completely natural. They need to take a similar step with the home screen. No reason to rush it, but I’m sure it’s coming. What we have is certainly not bad design though. You want access to your apps, you have access. In the most simple and direct way.
Gameboy70
macrumors 6502a
Everything is centered symmetrically. The distance between the top of the dock and the bottom of the bottom icon row is the same as the distance between the notch and the top of the top icon row. Unless re-spacing the icons would accommodate another row, I don't see the point of moving them.
I'm aesthetically opposed to spacing the icons out more than they need to be, like the 12" iPad Pro. I like the X's higher information density.
Newtons Apple
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No but because of the tall screen it’s options were limited. They were forced in using the OLEG screen size that was available not optional.
BugeyeSTI
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You said it yourself, Apple is a trillion dollar company. Obviously you don’t get there by doing things wrong. You may not agree with the design of the phone but, it looks like most love it. Do you actually think if they let you design a phone for them with everything you think makes a perfect phone you would get 100% approval from the consumer? You can never make all of the people happy all of the time, you shoot for the majority and hope for the best.
PeLaNo
macrumors regular
I think by introducing OLED iPhone
, in iOS 12 it’s gonna have some kind of dark mode (not only smart invert thing that’s disable night shift when activated) and this can be triggered by amount of light that ambient light sensor can detect (kinda like in Apple maps that it changes from light to dark theme by amount of light)
, in iOS 12 it’s gonna have some kind of dark mode (not only smart invert thing that’s disable night shift when activated) and this can be triggered by amount of light that ambient light sensor can detect (kinda like in Apple maps that it changes from light to dark theme by amount of light)
Vermifuge
macrumors 68020
Apple's SVP hardware engineering Dan Riccio was quotes as saying the following
"As Riccio described it, Apple had “the line of sight” for a 2018 iPhone X launch, “but with a lot of hard work, talent, grit, and determination we were able to deliver them this year,” he told Mashable."
"In a rare, albeit brief, moment of stunning transparency, Riccio revealed that the compressed timeline left little room to consider functional alternatives."
http://mashable.com/2017/10/31/how-apple-built-the-iphone-x/?utm_cid=hp-r-1#xvtJec5zoSqN
I read the article link provided. But it still to me, doesn't translate into a 'rushed Product as others are iterating. Contrary to others opinions, all views vary based on their overall experience with the iPhone X. For me, The iPhone X has been stellar with my hands on, however iOS 11 having some deficiencies initially. The only experience(Or opinion) that matters is the one using the device, not some one else projecting their negativity because of their own dislikes.
Vermifuge
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The X was supposed to be a 2018 release. Powers that be put pressure on the team to make the iPhone X part of the 2017 lineup. That means designs needed to be finalized a long time ago, and i imagine they were tweaking software until the very last min....
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When I was working at Maxis Software back in 1996 The industry was talking about Maxis needing to release the 3rd installment of SimCity. The 1996 lineup had been pretty disappointing and a series of acquisitions left the company cash strapped.
This isn't the same as Apple's situation. Obviously Apple has a lot of cash and a lineup of successful products. but the industry had been expecting a 10th anniversary iPhone.
Meanwhile back at Maxis... the industry was moving towards 3D and the last few games like Sim Copter and The Streets of Sim City had been built on a DX4 DirectX Engine. Sim City 3 had to be a 3D game. The industry was expecting it and it needed to be a AAA quality game. The marketing team had already purchased shelf space for a Christmas 1996 release.
The iPhone X needed to be a reinvention of the iPhone. Apple had been sitting on its laurels with he iPhone 6 design for it's 4th year. The industry would have been critical of anything other than a redesign. So it seems apparent that the order came from from high above to accelerate the iPhone X development.
I can't speak for the mood inside Apple but I can say there was a sense of panic within Maxis. Marketing was panicked and needed a holiday release to save the company. Developers were pressured to deliver a AAA game engine with a signature property like Sim City in under 9 months. Quality Assurance had been working around the clock to test the almost unplayable code. And my Team, Customer Service / Tech Support was ill prepared to support a product that was being rushed and would ultimately be flawed and full of bugs....
I don't care how any one wants to spin it. When you advance a timetable like that the quality of the product WILL suffer. i don't care how AAA your engineering team is. Corners will be cut, teams will be panicked and quality will suffer. when it comes to engineering and development by any sense of the words... the iPhone was rushed.
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but a 10th anniversary was a fact for like.. 10 years? 😉
i mean, wasn't that the plan all along?
so when did they decide to accelerate development?
and what still delayed them, knowing they had to finish in time?
Vermifuge
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"“As far as last-minute design changes? Actually, we didn’t have time for it,” said Riccio, who seemed energized by the memory of that intense development period. “Quite frankly, this program was on such a fast track to be offered [and] enabled this year. We had to lock [the design] very, very early. We actually locked the design, to let you know, in November,” said Riccio before he was cut off by Apple PR. Riccio appeared to realize he’d said maybe too much, and then reaffirmed with a smile, “We had to lock it early.”"
http://mashable.com/2017/10/31/how-apple-built-the-iphone-x/?utm_cid=hp-r-1#xvtJec5zoSqN
It appears like Apple decided to make this happen in November of 2016. I have heard Apple is developing products several years out. So they had decided to take the late 2018 design and fast track it a year early. I don't believe Apple had any intention of making it a special 10th anniversary product. That was an expectation of external observers / media...
So the iPhone X was rushed and made available a year earlier than anticipated internally.
Vermifuge
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The good news is I believe Apple got the hardware right. Being a S0 Apple Watch owner I have seen the OS mature and improve the functionality of my now 3+ year old device. I may not be as fast as a S3 but it's a far more polished interface, greater functional and ease of use. I believe this too can be accomplished with the iPhone X and i'm sure many the earlier adopters who are keeping those iPhone X's in short supply believe he same.
You're entirely free to your opinion of what you want to believe and or justify, but the reality of a tech world versus real world practicality are two different things. I will try to make sense of this as much as I can in my post below and it's how I view the iPhone X altogether based on both comparisons.
I see two worlds when it comes to the iPhone X and those who have variable opinions based on their usage.
1.) There is the tech world for the tech enthusiast, where every part, component, function and or software related feature is completely broken down into hundreds of threads of the majority of 'What could be better' or 'What is wrong' with the iPhone X. Because that's what tech sites do, others tend to over analyze and divulge the more negative side of things versus praise the strong suits of the iPhone X. There are technical discussions on here that an average iPhone consumer would have no idea what anyone is talking about on Macrumors.
2.) And then there is the real world of non-tech iPhone owners, considering the millions of iPhone X's that will be sold to consumers across the world that will use this phone every single day and not notice OR remotely care about the simplest software imperfections or random User interface changes. Why? Because they don't care, they want an iPhone that will give them the latest features and capabilities, because it's the most popular device out there.
A tech world versus the real world with iPhone consumers is not indicative of the success of the iPhone X in the long run. Given that the iPhone X does have its shortcomings, that doesn't stall this iPhone from being any less popular then it is currently. The one major contributor that does hold true to the iPhone X is the price point. That alone can be apprehensive for Some for those who cannot afford it.
For those who say this is a "rushed device", that's their opinion and to add, I don't disagree that iOS 11 was one of the better releases. But if I asked the average iPhone consumer if they feel the iPhone X was rushed, they won't even likely know how to respond to that question.
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That's called the maturity and evolving of software. The first generation Apple Watch struggled with speed, bit The core functionality has remain the same throughout the Series. . Siri's to was a massive upgrade over the first generation Apple Watch with the addition of GPS, water resistance, brighter display and dual core processor.
Series 3 is more of lateral grade from the Series 2, with LTE and a Faster dual core processor, which helped with the battery efficiency.
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Vermifuge
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Ignorance doesn't mean timetables were not advanced.
rushed rəSHt/ adjective: done or completed too hurriedly; hasty. "a rushed job"
Is the iPhone any less of a premium device? no. Should it be passed over based on this? no. but facts are facts.. it was rushed.
But does the average iPhone consumer think it's rushed? If they do, how? But they don't care In all likeliness, The consumer that purchases the iPhone X does not care about the artifacts or imperfections that are so my minute being discussed on a tech forum, it's completely irrelevant to them or they overlook it. Even if they are ignorant to the standing issues, do you truly believe that would withhold them from purchasing the iPhone X? How many average iPhone consumers are discussing the smallest software related issues with others? I'm willing to believe that percentage is much smaller in comparison to the issues that are discussed on a tech forum.
Someone would have a harder time justifying the price point of the iPhone X versus the user interface. You have to weigh out the details On want somebody actually mitigates when making this purchase.
I'm not saying the iPhone X is perfect, but that doesn't equate to somebody pulling out the wallet and spending over thousand dollars on an iPhone, based on discussions intricately pushing details that will never be noticed by somebody the average consumer.
My point is, the tech world like MacRumors is not indicative of the millions of other iPhone users that will purchase the iPhone X without having issues with it or noticing the subtleties.
Vermifuge
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You seem to be completely off on a at agent. the average customer really isn't a factor in how much time was spend developing an hardware / software device. do they care or understand? irrelevant. reducing development time by a year can only be intermitted one way.
I'm ending it there. no reason to keep going in circles.
But ultimately who makes the decision based on what's rushed? Wouldn't that be the consumer that spends the thousand dollars for the iPhone? Should they care about software imperfections? They don't care, regardless if you're saying it's irrelevant. They want the iPhone exactly how it's been marketed. But that doesn't make the iPhone X any less successful Of a product based on what's considered rushed when developing software and manufacturing hardware. Again, on a tech forum, it might be considered rushed by some, in the real world, it's not of Indicative anything and is meaningless to the millions of people who purchase this iPhone, which likely will never notice The most minute details.
Thanks for the discussion.
So, Relentless, would you still feel the IPhone X wasn’t “rushed” even if Jobs himself rose from the grave and said it was?