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iPod touch Why is wifi weaker on 2.0 than previous versions?
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Poor Wifi after 2.0 upgrade
I have noticed a dramatic difference in Wi-Fi on my iPod Touch after installing the 2.0 software. I am really unhappy. I have two laptops that connect fine everywhere in my house. However immediately after upgrading to 2.0 my iPod drops the wireless all the time. It will stay disconnected until I turn Wi-Fi off and then back on under Network Settings.
I tried changing the channel on my wireless router but it has not made a difference. There is something absolutely wrong with the Wi-Fi capabilities in 2.0. I had my iPod Touch for 5 months before doing the upgrade to 2.0 and the wireless never dropped in my house. My neighbors are not very close so I seriously doubt there is interference from another router (and no 2.4Ghz phones in my house). My laptops show an Excellent signal with 802.11g.
I am going to call Apple and complain.
I have noticed a dramatic difference in Wi-Fi on my iPod Touch after installing the 2.0 software. I am really unhappy. I have two laptops that connect fine everywhere in my house. However immediately after upgrading to 2.0 my iPod drops the wireless all the time. It will stay disconnected until I turn Wi-Fi off and then back on under Network Settings.
I tried changing the channel on my wireless router but it has not made a difference. There is something absolutely wrong with the Wi-Fi capabilities in 2.0. I had my iPod Touch for 5 months before doing the upgrade to 2.0 and the wireless never dropped in my house. My neighbors are not very close so I seriously doubt there is interference from another router (and no 2.4Ghz phones in my house). My laptops show an Excellent signal with 802.11g.
I am going to call Apple and complain.
Wifi IS weaker on 2.0
Yes, kraoms, and all,
I just got my iPod/touch two days ago. I came home that afternoon and activated it on 7.7 itunes. I played with it and got onto my home wifi with strong signal. I set-up a few locations on the bundled weather app. I went to google map app and dropped a pin on my front yard and toggled into satellite view. I was thrilled, it was zooming along.
Then, I did the purchase/upgrade to 2.0 that night. Immediately my home wifi signal strength lost the top #3 bar and remains at the middle. I started trying to rest some of my apps that were reset with the upgrade. I still haven't been able to get data for my weather locations (only Cupertino, sometimes!) And I was able to get back to my front yard in google map app, but I haven't had the patience for satellite view, too slow. And sometimes the link between apps store and itunes, facebook app glitches 30 secs or so and/or says "inaccessible." It's so sad.
So, something is going on with 2.0 and weak wifi signals.
I am using an "older" Linksys router model BEFW11S4 with firmware 1.50. I downloaded newer firmware from Linksys thinking that could help, but I've been getting an error on that install. My other macs and laptops are fine with strong signal on the home wifi. I have the router set for DHCP, and Restricted Access via device network ID, not WEP.
Anyone ? Ideas?
I'm going to my local coffee shop to see about that wi-fi...
ameliastep@yahoo.com
Yes, kraoms, and all,
I just got my iPod/touch two days ago. I came home that afternoon and activated it on 7.7 itunes. I played with it and got onto my home wifi with strong signal. I set-up a few locations on the bundled weather app. I went to google map app and dropped a pin on my front yard and toggled into satellite view. I was thrilled, it was zooming along.
Then, I did the purchase/upgrade to 2.0 that night. Immediately my home wifi signal strength lost the top #3 bar and remains at the middle. I started trying to rest some of my apps that were reset with the upgrade. I still haven't been able to get data for my weather locations (only Cupertino, sometimes!) And I was able to get back to my front yard in google map app, but I haven't had the patience for satellite view, too slow. And sometimes the link between apps store and itunes, facebook app glitches 30 secs or so and/or says "inaccessible." It's so sad.
So, something is going on with 2.0 and weak wifi signals.
I am using an "older" Linksys router model BEFW11S4 with firmware 1.50. I downloaded newer firmware from Linksys thinking that could help, but I've been getting an error on that install. My other macs and laptops are fine with strong signal on the home wifi. I have the router set for DHCP, and Restricted Access via device network ID, not WEP.
Anyone ? Ideas?
I'm going to my local coffee shop to see about that wi-fi...
ameliastep@yahoo.com
WiFi weaker on 2.0
HI All, Me again. I went to the library instead of the coffeeshop to test WiFi. Our Library Wifi came through loud-and-clear and my ipod/touch zoomed along like it did when I first had it on my home network before the 2.o upgrade. All the other signals in the neighborhood were weak.
So now I know it is possible. I'm thinking some home router tweaks will work to fix the weak pickup?
Or, like someone said earlier, Apple may have done something about the wi-fi sensitivity settings in 2.0 that are different from previous version. Maybe there will be a iPhone/ iPod/touch software release that reverses that?
HI All, Me again. I went to the library instead of the coffeeshop to test WiFi. Our Library Wifi came through loud-and-clear and my ipod/touch zoomed along like it did when I first had it on my home network before the 2.o upgrade. All the other signals in the neighborhood were weak.
So now I know it is possible. I'm thinking some home router tweaks will work to fix the weak pickup?
Or, like someone said earlier, Apple may have done something about the wi-fi sensitivity settings in 2.0 that are different from previous version. Maybe there will be a iPhone/ iPod/touch software release that reverses that?
Last week I noticed that my Touch would regularly lose its connection to the internet (the little wireless indicator would disappear and the only way to get it back on was to go into Settings > Wi-Fi Networks > "Choose a Network"). Then it started getting worse. I would follow the above process but would see NO networks. I would turn the Wi-Fi slider off, then on, and usually on the first or second try it would display networks. Somewhere in this process the iPod quit asking me if I wanted to join availabe networks in the app (the little pop-up of availabe networks quit appearing). Friday night a friend called to ask me for a phone number and I ran Safari, got online via the above, lengthy process and little did I know, but that'd be the last time my iPod would go online.
Saturday morning I woke up to check my email via iPod and it said no networks available. Normally in my apartment I can see 3, one of which is mine. I manually entered my SSID and was informed that iPod was unable to connect. Then I walked over and rebooted the router, still no luck.
The following also had no results:
1. I "Reset network settings."
2. I "Reset All Settings."
3. Restore from backup via iTunes.
4. Turning off "Fetch New Data"
The following allowed me to see my home network exactly one time (but still didn't let me connect.)
1. Settings > General > Reset > Erase All Content and Settings
2. Restore from back-up
3. Settings > Wi-fi
My network SSID appeared exactly one time, though neither of the neighbors wireless did. I clicked on the name, and got "unable to join..." at which point the SSID disappeared from the list. (which now only says, "Other..." and refuses to join my network when I enter the SSID and the iPod is SITTING ON THE ROUTER!")
I'm now at work and the WPA network at work also doesn't show up. Normally from my desk I can see 3 networks.
At home, I've got (at this point) an unencrypted, SSID-broadcast, non-MAC filtering network that works for 5 other machines in the house. According to apple my Serial Number is not worthy of free technical support so I'm appealing to the masses here with some hope that this is a simple procedure that I'm missing. If this is really a hardware failure of the iPod at 11 months there's some serious quality control issues!
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1215&start=0
There are at least half a dozen threads (not counting the "i can't configure my wireless, help!" posts) with people having issues of little or no wi-fi in the last week, seemingly out of the blue.
No difference here. I've had my iTouch since last November, I've run 1.1.1/2/3/4 and now 2.0 and I've never experienced any change in wifi strength. And I AM mindful of it because you need wifi to be able to do anything useful on the Touch (which is why I bought an iPhone, but that's another story) ...
So, yeah - it's either your imagination or just a coincidence. No changes here.
Okay, that is a REAL problem! Call Apple! Test your router with another WiFi product!
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I've had that happen randomly on every firmware since 1.1.1! Turning wifi on/off takes care of it.
markintellect said:
I've had that happen randomly on every firmware since 1.1.1! Turning wifi on/off takes care of it.
I've had great WiFi as well. I haven't had a difference in it at all since upgrading to 2.0.
Btw, Mavis: love the avatar. Looks amazing. Did you design it yourself?
Thanks! It's actually an iPhone wallpaper I found ages ago (MacThemes, maybe?) ... All I did was the cutout/rip effect.
Wifi works great when I'm close enough to the routers. The problem is, I can't "see" the wifi networks that I USED to be able to see in the same exact locations. The routers didn't change position and I didn't change position so why am I unable to see them anymore? Also, I used to get excellent reception in the lunch room at work and now I get maybe one bar and it likes to disconnect a lot too.
As an experiment, I tried restoring my iPod touch to a virgin 2.0.1 (default settings and everything) and I still get the same problem. Also, I have a 1st Gen iPhone that does the same exact thing. It's the 2.0 software... not the device. Those that say that they don't have this problem are just either not paying attention or are close enough to the network so it doesn't cause a problem. Sometime definitely changed in 2.0. The people who don't have this problem aren't using some special elite 2.0. We all have the same firmware.
As an experiment, I tried restoring my iPod touch to a virgin 2.0.1 (default settings and everything) and I still get the same problem. Also, I have a 1st Gen iPhone that does the same exact thing. It's the 2.0 software... not the device. Those that say that they don't have this problem are just either not paying attention or are close enough to the network so it doesn't cause a problem. Sometime definitely changed in 2.0. The people who don't have this problem aren't using some special elite 2.0. We all have the same firmware.
I have not noticed a difference. I did restore to factory settings prior to updating to 2.0 - I am not sure if that played a role in this or not. I did not restore from a backup, I've found that I run into problems restoring from backups half the time.
I have the same problem on my iPhone 3G compared to my 1st Gen iPhone. My router is on my living room and with the original iPhone running 1.1.4 I could get almost full bars on my bed room. With the iPhone 3G, in order to connect to the network at my bedroom I first have to find it in the hall or somewhere closer to the living room and then bring the iPhone to my bedroom, but it only gets about 1 bar. I figured I'm better off living it on 3G all the time.
wifi weaker but apple express helps
hi all
Well I still swear that I have wifi weakness with version 2.0 on my iPod/touch. I heard 2.1 is out but haven't done that yet. I tried my daughters new MacBook and she had the same weak signal, but here is what I found out: I took the apple airport express device I had on some stereo speakers and put it on my router via Ethernet cable. So now when I use it to access my wifi network with my iPod/touch I get a great signal- full bars. I read that tje aiport ecpress has 801.n. Is there a difference on 801.b and 801.n for the newer macs and iPods?
hi all
Well I still swear that I have wifi weakness with version 2.0 on my iPod/touch. I heard 2.1 is out but haven't done that yet. I tried my daughters new MacBook and she had the same weak signal, but here is what I found out: I took the apple airport express device I had on some stereo speakers and put it on my router via Ethernet cable. So now when I use it to access my wifi network with my iPod/touch I get a great signal- full bars. I read that tje aiport ecpress has 801.n. Is there a difference on 801.b and 801.n for the newer macs and iPods?
I know exactly what you mean. This is how it goes:
"I just got an iTouch yesterday! Look!"
Me: "You got what? Come again? I don't understand... do you mean an iPod Touch?"
"Yeah, an iTouch!"
Me":
Sorry, but if I called it an iTouch and someone went through that whole charade, I'd either punch them, recommend they see help or just run home and lock up my doors and windows, because that's worryingly sad.
Wi-Fi in 2.0 is quite bad, i've had various problems ranging from not being able to connect to my network, random drops, the iPod saying its online with full signal bars, but not actually being online, requiring Wi-Fi turning off then back on.
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