Why Mac and not PC?

[chrono1081]

Now how does that work out for you, because obviously you do not know Windows very well. For example, there has never been a version of Windows NT that did not support (software) RAIDs out of the box - you claim that Windows does not have support for that, but this feature has been in Windows NT since version 3.1 (which was the very first release of Windows NT).

The same goes for backups -- NTBackup does at least support really backup hardware like tape devices/robots, while Time Machine only supports an external hard disk. And again, Windows NT had a built-in backup software since its very first release.

Basically everything else that you are missing in Windows is either available as Freeware or as Open Source applications. CutePDF, FreePDF anyone?

PDF generation in OS X is okay for simple uses, but for the real thing you will install Adobe Acrobat anyway, just as you will also install Adobe Reader for full PDF reading support. Apple's Preview app is just basic.

I could think of a bazillion things that you also need to install on OS X because it doesn't have that, beginning with Growl (which supports a feature that Windows can do out of the box) and Perian and VLC and Flip4Mac.

No OS is complete out of the box, and both Windows and Mac OS X provide much less functionality out of the box than Ubuntu 10.04, for example. But even in Ubuntu you need to install something like VLC manually to be able to watch all sorts of videos.

I hate to feed the roll but Winni, as always your posts are useless. Windows NT? Really? I wasn't aware that that was the popular choice for OS's in the consumer and business market. Sorry but the REAL stuff out there, XP and Vista and to some degree, 7 do not have built in raid support.

Not to mention that yes, there are freeware versions but my point is it should be included in the OS its 2010.

 

[mikeo007]

I hate to feed the roll but Winni, as always your posts are useless. Windows NT? Really? I wasn't aware that that was the popular choice for OS's in the consumer and business market. Sorry but the REAL stuff out there, XP and Vista and to some degree, 7 do not have built in raid support.

Not to mention that yes, there are freeware versions but my point is it should be included in the OS its 2010.

Windows XP, Vista and 7 are based off of NT. They all support RAID out of the box, although the setup is not done by default. You should try to get your facts straight before bashing others.

 

[Simple2Do]

Have you even used Ubuntu? It is the most out of the box OS I have ever used, and I was very surprised with it when I became sick of Windows and moved onto Linux (before switching to OS X). Ubuntu comes equipped with pretty much EVERYTHING you need, and you rarely have to download a program, unless your doing something specialist. They may copy OS X's styles, but who actually cares? It isn't as if the Ubuntu team are actually making any money out of it.

I think that's a tad unfair. Most OSs look and feel the same. If you're wanting to attract users from other systems to try open-source you have to give them a windowing system that they'll be familiar with.

 

[mdatwood]

I don't know why people fight about this. I use OSX, Win7(and have used every Win since 3.11), and Linux (since Redhat 4.2 lol) daily. Each has it's strengths and weaknesses. Arguing about which is always better or worse is like arguing over Vi or Emacs or any other useless topic.

I own a MBP because for me and IMHO, it was the most well built machine for my needs. The next time I buy a computer I'll do the research again and might end up with a PC instead.

 

[Hmac]

Macs aren't better than PC's for graphics design. That's an old myth from back in the days when Mac was Adobe's preferred platform. Now, all those fancy Adobe products are available for Windows too, so, no advantage to Mac anymore.

Mac OSX is a better OS than Windows, and the entire environment is more stable, but if you're happy with Windows, you really have no reason to switch.

 

[Apps]

Thanks for the replies everyone,
how well does using bootcamp to run Windows work? Does it run like its running only Windows or like its being emulated and slower?

 

[Hmac]

Thanks for the replies everyone,
how well does using bootcamp to run Windows work? Does it run like its running only Windows or like its being emulated and slower?

It runs Windows natively. You can't tell the difference. A couple of years ago PC Magazine tested MacBooks and found they ran Windows better and faster than any of the PC laptops.

For that matter, you can barely tell the difference running Windows on a virtual machine as in VMWare or Parallels as long as the program isn't using Direct X (games).

 

[JRoDDz]

I've been running windows since it was version 3.1 running on top of DOS. Last year I've bought a Mac computer and it's like night and day. No more excessive bootup times, no more virus scan software slowing you down, no more bloated registry, no more BSOD. Shutdown takes 4 seconds flat on my Mac. I still run windoze at work but personal use it's Mac for me.

 

[mikeo007]

It runs Windows natively. You can't tell the difference. A couple of years ago PC Magazine tested MacBooks and found they ran Windows better and faster than any of the PC laptops.

For that matter, you can barely tell the difference running Windows on a virtual machine as in VMWare or Parallels as long as the program isn't using Direct X (games).

You are right about it running natively, but that PC Magazine test was a snapshot in time 2 or 3 years ago. Today's Macbooks perform on par with mid-range windows laptops.

I don't agree with the virtual machine statement though, VMs are always slightly sluggish unless they're just idling. They're still very usable, but have noticeable hiccups whenever you are doing anything more than word processing.

 

[Hmac]

You are right about it running natively, but that PC Magazine test was a snapshot in time 2 or 3 years ago. Today's Macbooks perform on par with mid-range windows laptops.

That's what I said...runs Windows natively and you can't tell the difference. Naturally, that assumes equivalent hardware.

Perhaps you were trying to make a different point?

 

[ARF900]

In my opinion the biggest advantage of mac is reliability. Its ready to go out of the box. and whenever you need it you can count on it. Youll actually spend the majority of your time using your computer instead of maintaining it.

No DLL
No DeFrag
No Antivirus

 

[mikeo007]

That's what I said...runs Windows natively and you can't tell the difference. Naturally, that assumes equivalent hardware.

Perhaps you were trying to make a different point?

No, wasn't trying to make any other point. I've just seen the article you mentioned come up several times, and it was quite a feat for the Macbook Pro to beat ALL Windows laptops in running Vista. I wanted to point out that the Macbook Pro is no longer better than or as good as high end laptops at running windows. Not that windows performance is a key point since Macs are made to run OSX, but it's a point worth mentioning since you brought up the article

 

[notjustjay]

I guess the point to take home is that buying a Mac is a win/win scenario (as long as you can afford it). You can run Windows, and you can run OS X. You could run Linux, too, for that matter.

 

[7thMac]

Funny question. This has been discussed all over the internet for years. I doubt if anyone here has anything new to say.