Why "Nano"?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by chris1016, Dec 30, 2008.

  1. chris1016 macrumors member

    Dec 30, 2007
    Yes, sorry, another iPhone nano thread. But this one's different, I promise! :p

    My question, why does the next iPhone have to be smaller? As many have said, smaller = bigger problems because of screen size, keyboard, apps, etc. Plus, the iPhone is great [and small] as it is!

    Why not have two versions of the same-sized iPhone. An iPhone+ and regular iPhone, if you will.

    The current iPhone 3G stays as is, though it could do with a better camera at the next revision. Includes 3G networking, GPS. 16GB for $199, 32GB (?) for $299. Would include the current plans with AT&T.

    The iPhone "nano" would have the same features as the first-generation iPhone: EDGE only, and no GPS. Since it's the same size as every other touch device, applications from the App Store would work. 4 or 8GB models for $99, and uses the cheaper $20 data plan from the first iPhone, but is optional. And since it is a staple of each "lower end" iPod to come in different colors, you get a choice with this model as well.

    Anyway, that's how I think a new iPhone model would logically come. What do you all think?
  2. Chaszmyr macrumors 601


    Aug 9, 2002
    My guess is that Apple thinks there are people who don't want to pay more than $99 for a phone, and don't want a large phone in their pocket. For these people, if Apple makes an iPhone nano, I think we will see a touch screen phone with very limited features. It will still have the essentials and some basic apps: the phone app, calendar app, iPod app, stock ticker, weather, maybe an email viewer... and that's about it. No 3rd party apps, no web browser, etc.

    It would be smaller, less complicated, and less expensive, and I guarantee that there are people who would want it... But I bet most of them aren't members of these forums.
  3. Doju macrumors 68000

    Jun 16, 2008
    The ideology surrounding an iPhone nano is that it would be a cheap, more or less non-smartphone iPhone. It would be cheap, and those not wanting to pay a premium for a smartphone, still would be able to wear the coveted Apple symbol and make calls at the same time.
  4. bradenwh macrumors 6502

    Apr 12, 2008
    I like your idea a lot better then the majority of the ideas posted by on here by stubborn morons. Your idea seems a lot more logical than anything else I've heard, that is, if there is even going to be an iPhone Nano.

    Which I hope there won't.
  5. notintheleast macrumors 6502


    Oct 1, 2008
    I think that you should have posted this in one of the other dozen "iPhone nano" threads. :confused:
  6. nickspohn macrumors 68040


    Jun 9, 2007
    And those reasons are why there won't be an iPhone nano. The data plan doesn't change, so when you get an iPhone nano, with a 2 year contract, you save what, like 5-10% overall?

    And a large phone.... lol.
  7. barryallott macrumors member

    Jul 7, 2008
    Simply put.... Apple over the last 4-5 years has relied on product releases every 6-12-18 months.. Each year the Fanboy brigade watch as McApple says how it is and how it will be... Unfortunatly they are a victim of thier own sucess and I would think that this had to come to an end and I see it now. What could they do... they had to release something... so lets make it smaller....

    But with the global downturn they are tucking in for the winter.... the winter that will last 3 years......

    Remember this is the LAST mac event........ so no fancy releases.....

    If you look at what they have coming over the next 12 months.

    Iphone nano --- smaller version
    OSX snow leopoard --- smaller version + bug fixes
    hardware --- smaller version with latest components.

    Doesnt look like risk taking on new things to me.........
    I would think that Apple and every other majoy company in the world are gearing for a go slow for 24 months. But they have to, to see how things pan out after the crunch....
  8. petermcphee macrumors 6502a


    Aug 20, 2008
    I think if they do release an iPhone nano it will have app store functionality simply because this is a large revenue stream that it would make sense to keep open.
  9. Luke1robb macrumors 6502a


    May 3, 2008
    Cambridge, MA/Smithfield, RI
    Seriously? NO! Just think about it, why would they actually do this. I realize in your dream world this could happen. But Apple won't release a phone that can't get to the internet, and can't download apps, it just doesn't make sense.

    The same goes for a phone with an actual keyboard, that's just a silly idea.
  10. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

    Tallest Skil

    Aug 13, 2006
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza

    Because that's all they'll be releasing. Right. Sure.

    And how does the Nehalem Mac Pro–a larger version with the fastest chips on the planet–fit into your equation?
  11. Dagless macrumors Core


    Jan 18, 2005
    Fighting to stay in the EU
    There are people out there who don't want to pay what Apple are charging for the iPhone (in total here it would cost about ~£700 for the £35 tarrif). I'd love a cheap PAYG iPhone, one without a web browser with just basic phone functions + iPod (including video and iPhoto stuff) + perfect OSX syncing.

    I'd love such a device myself. I love the iPhone but it seems a little big and overkill for my needs, with a price that reflects that.
  12. davyreins macrumors 6502

    Jul 10, 2008
    Ann Arbor
    I like your idea too. Edge only, no gps, cheaper phone, cheaper plan. I bet there would be people who would want that.
  13. iObama macrumors 6502a


    Nov 16, 2008
    So basically just re-releasing the first-gen iPhone? Don't think so...
  14. yoyo5280 macrumors 68000


    Feb 24, 2007
    Melbourne, Australia & Bay Area
    No 3G or GPS? Maybe I could understand GPS, but NO 3G!!!

    Not going to happen, it can't happen. Cause if its does
    A) It can't come to Japan
    B) Its not much better of a phone than the one I have now :p Atleast it has GPS and better camera. (for about $149 too :) )
  15. MattyK macrumors 6502a


    cmon think about the little people, little people want to have some technology too..
  16. kastenbrust macrumors 68030


    Dec 26, 2008
    North Korea
    Apple actually caters very considerately for the little people, Ipod Nano, Mac Mini (hey its even named after a famous little person, Mini Me!), Macbook Air, Hell they even make 3 different sized rubber buds on their in ear headphones so little people can get a snug fit in the ear! http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MA850?mco=MTM3MzM

    See, ive proven Apple happily accepts all little people in the least possibly condescending way into its warm embracing family...

  17. Michael CM1 macrumors 603

    Feb 4, 2008
    1) Nobody that I know of thinks the iPhone 3G is underpriced. The market for a bigger phone (what else do you want on it???) is extremely small. The market for a smaller phone is huge (hundreds of millions worldwide).

    2) Most people who don't want an iPhone right now would cite initial price, contract price, and it being too big (compared to most other phones). As I have to say daily, most phone users aren't of the same mind that posters here are. The vast majority are people like the boomers who kinda get technology or maybe don't get it well at all. Think of all the people who have something along the lines of a Razr.

    3) Apple had the iPod (now Classic). They made a smaller version and it's now the top-selling iPod. Why? It's cheaper and smaller (mostly cheaper). A smaller iPhone would cost less to make, and not having the data requirement would make it a lot more attractive to many.
  18. Eso macrumors 68000


    Aug 14, 2008

    Err... make that +2
  19. Hutch1 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 24, 2008
    Guelph, ON
    It's the last Macworld, not the last Mac event. Macworld is/was a third party event (put on by MDG), I suspect most big announcements will now come at a true Apple controlled event that being the Apple WWDC, which is held once a year.

    These threads kill me bemoaning a device that doesn't exist, has never been announced.

    The iPhone is big if you compare it to straight phones, but to comparable devices, BB, Win Mobile devices it is the same size or smaller in some dimension then those devices.
  20. MacFan782040 macrumors 6502a


    Dec 1, 2003
    Scranton, PA
    My predictions:

    1) iPhone 3G will be bumped to 16GB and 32GB, $199 and $299 respectively. Black and white will remain. White will be an option for 32GB model. Camera is now 2.0MP.

    2) iPhone nano will be introduced. Smaller form, even thinner, comes in a range of colors. All touch screen. Has 1MP camera and all current features of regular iPhone. Yes is 3G. No dock. Same resolution screen so all Apps still work. 4GB model for $99 (or $149). AT&T Plans remain the same price.

    3) New software: New organization on home screen (for all those Apps!!), MMS, Copy/Paste, Video Recording, SMS Forwarding, New SMS layout, --All included in new iPhone models. If you have an older iPhone, you can download the upgrade for $29.

    I guess we'll find out in a couple days ;)
  21. TurboSC macrumors 65816


    Aug 4, 2007
    I wonder how they're going to deal with the screen resolution issues. I mean having 2 platforms seems kind of odd.
  22. bradenwh macrumors 6502

    Apr 12, 2008
    There is already a 16GB iPhone 3G, and the iPhone's camera is already 2.0MP.
    There will be no 4GB model. Apple is done with that, I think. I also doubt there will be any new revolutionary software. That means no copy/paste, video, or any of that wonderful stuff.

    And I pray that there will be no iPhone Nano.
  23. Demosthenes X macrumors 68000

    Demosthenes X

    Oct 21, 2008
    So what's the point of the nano? You pay slightly less up front, for a smaller, less featured phone, and pay the same rate plan?

    IMO an iPhone nano only makes real sense if there's no mandatory data plan. If there is, than anyone in their right mind would buy the iPhone 3G...

    To answer the OP's question:

    1) Apple is obsessed with size. They like making things smaller. I highly doubt they'll go the other way and make a bigger iPhone.

    2) Progression. Look at past product releases. Apple tends to introduce their top model, and then branch out with smaller, cheaper lines of the same. iPod, then iPod Mini, then iPod Shuffle. iMac, then Mac Mini. MacBook Pro, then MacBook.
  24. Theaser macrumors 6502


    Dec 30, 2008
    To summarize it, I'm saying that the iPhone Nano should be priced for people that want a basic phone but also want the iPhone 3G. Apple cannot compete in the cell phone industry with only one product and I do not see Apple in making a iPhone Enlarged or something like that. The only way to go is smaller, the iPhone is three times the size of my current phone to give you a picture. The iPhone should seperate into two categories, smartphone and basic phone

    Here is what the iPhone Nano should be,

    - 3 inch screen
    - EDGE and 3G (Every basic phone has 3G voice now)
    - 4 and 8 GB models
    - $59 and $99 for 4 and 8 GB models with 2 year plan
    - I believe it should have at least a 3.2 MP camera with video recording capabilities
    - Apps and Safari will be included (For the guys saying no web browser on this phone, even my 3 year old phone has a web browser)

    Here are what the updates with the iPhone 3G should be,

    -TV Tuners (I think the people living in Japan would LOVE this)
    -At least a 5MP camera (Omnia has 8MP) with video recording
    -16 GB and 32 GB models
    - $249 and $349 for the two models with 2 year plan (Data included)
    - More support for industry and corporation use, I have seen alot of business men and women complaining about how the iPhone 3G is not ready for the business world
    - MMS text messaging
  25. Nicholas.C macrumors 6502a

    Jun 24, 2008
    I'm fine with 2.0mp most standard phones have 2.0mp.

    you don't really need a 5.0mp camarea.

    the nano will not come out.

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