why no 800x480 screen?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by boonlar, Jun 12, 2009.

  1. boonlar macrumors 6502

    Dec 30, 2008
  2. PNutts macrumors 601


    Jul 24, 2008
    Pacific Northwest, US
    I'm curious. Why do you want the additional resolution?
  3. compg318 macrumors regular

    Dec 1, 2008
  4. zmanhoops macrumors newbie

    Jun 12, 2009
    i'm guessing they don't want devs making apps that only the 3GS can use... they don't want to leave the rest of iphone users behind
  5. redman042 macrumors 68030


    Jun 13, 2008
    I'm sure they don't see a strong enough reason to do it, given all the drawbacks. The drawbacks are higher component cost, higher battery drain, greater load on the graphics processor to push the additional pixels, and software incompatibilities. The benefits are rather small given that the current screen is already quite good.
  6. ruinfx macrumors 6502a

    Feb 20, 2008
    its going to happen anyways due to the powervr sgx.
  7. StuddedLeather macrumors 6502a

    Apr 20, 2009
    Brooklyn, NYC
    Why no front - facing camera?

    Why no apple lit logo?

    Why does it looks the same?

    WHY can't people get over the crap that doesn't matter! :mad:

    Seriously look at your phone from 5 years ago and come back and say "Thanks Apple"

    (Well you don't have to say the last part but just be a little bit more grateful)
  8. coolwater macrumors 6502a


    Jun 8, 2009

    What's up with these people so quick to defend APPLE whenever another user raises a question. I believe not even APPLE employees are that defensive. Can't someone even ask a simple 'why'? Does every question regarding iPhone sound like a whine to your ears?

    As a consumer, we can always ask why. If APPLE is a good company, they should want that from us. I believe they are and I believe they do.

    I don't get people treating APPLE like a thin glass ball that will break when people touch it. Don't worry. We all love APPLE and iPhone and no one will ruin anything.
  9. shrimpdesign macrumors 6502a


    Dec 9, 2005
    Because the current resolution is plenty sharp enough at 160dpi, and the trade-off in battery life would not be worth it.
  10. StuddedLeather macrumors 6502a

    Apr 20, 2009
    Brooklyn, NYC
    I have no problem with people asking questions the problem is when people repeat what's already said AND the things WE can't change.

    Why can't people accept things they way that they are and move on. . .

    Sorry if I came off as defensive but people really ask for a lot that's NOT necessary. I.E Front-Facing Cam. . . Higher Res screen. Besides the battery sucks now imagine what a better screen would do :rolleyes:
  11. Ekelon macrumors newbie

    Feb 21, 2009
    Amen. If you really want a bigger resolution... then you'd basically need a bigger screen to even be able to tell the difference.
  12. Dr. Cabrera macrumors 65816

    Aug 25, 2008
    Los Angeles
    You people complain too much -____-

    What next,
    Why no flux capacitor?
  13. The Californian macrumors 68040

    The Californian

    Jan 17, 2009
    Surfers Paradise
  14. stezza333 macrumors regular

    May 12, 2009
    My phone from 5 years ago has features the iphone 3gs just got :p
  15. outz macrumors 6502

    Jul 17, 2007
    It's called a fanboy :)
  16. bradenwh macrumors 6502

    Apr 12, 2008
    Innovation ceases to happen when we "just accept things the way that they are and move on."
    And your opinion of necessary and someone else's is different. Get off your fanboy bandwagon.
  17. kdarling macrumors demi-god


    Jun 9, 2007
    First university coding class = 47 years ago
    Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.

    The moment Apple puts a higher resolution screen in, all those who are saying the current screen is just fine, will suddenly change their mind. Never fails.

    As for resolution, I'm old and I can still see the pixels on the current screens. But the phones with WVGA (much higher DPI) look almost like photos.
  18. maflynn Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    I'm very happy that apple hadn't increased the resolution. I'd have a really hard time using it the if they did that
  19. Knolly macrumors 6502a

    Jul 22, 2007
    This. If you have used higher resolution screens, you can definitely tell the difference. In particular, hi-res OLED screens are just flat out breathtaking.
  20. beamer8912 macrumors 65816

    May 30, 2009
    Yea, devs are going to double their development costs to make a better looking game, and then go and ignore the 40,000,000 consumer base to sell their expensive game to only 2-3 million. That's the best business strategy I've ever heard! /sarcasm:rolleyes:
  21. Revelation78 macrumors 68000


    Dec 18, 2008
    North Carolina
    I would say the reason behind not having a higher resolution screen or a larger one would boil down to.... get this - Apple doesn't have too!

    Before anyway gets upset and starts talking about their 5 year old monochrome displays, let me elaborate. The iPhone doesn't have real competition at the moment. The Pre is darn near close and I think after a few patches it'll be a great device and give the "extra push" for Apple to take a bigger step in the next model.

    I believe the next model will hav an OLED screen, but at the same screen size. They'll probably bump the size and resolution in the following model (2011). You can disagree with me here, that's fine; I can garauntee you will not see a lot of things upgraded at one time in the near future. Apple will continue to bump a few things here and there in each model. Every two years you get a big bump compared to what you have versus smaller bumps every year.

    Screen resolution is independant of apps, Apple has said for a long time not to code/design your apps for any specific resoultion. Apps, if designed in a way that Apple recommends will scale just fine; hardware on the other hand is a bit different. You will see distinctions in what can and cannot play on certain models depending on processor, internal memoery (not storage), and the graphics chip.

    Next year, I can see the iPhone using the same processor as the 3GS, unless another phone maker that Apple considers its competition announces the use of a better processor. It's possible the rumors about a multi-core could reach the iPhone next year. We simply don't know.

    All-in-all we will see bumps in specs year over year, the idea is not to have a groundbreaking iPhone to buy every year. It's to convince those that are eligible to upgrade every 18-24 months - this new model is leaps and bounds better than your 2 year old iPhone; slighly better than the 1 year old iPhone.

    For example:

    Take the 1st Gen iPhone upgrade to the 3G model. It ws a small bump in specs. The idea wasn't to get all of the original iPhone owners to upgrade, but to open the door to get everyone on the iPhone bandwagon.

    Yes, a lot of 1st Gen owners upgraded, it's a bonus. Different case design, adding 3G and gps is a small bump in specs.

    Now you take the 3g upgrade to the 3GS, I consider this a medium sized bump. Adding a compass, video recording with autofocus, 3 megapixel camera with autofocus and touch focus, (activated) Nike+ support, New & faster processor, more internal memory and more storage. The only thing this is missing for me to call this a big upgrade would have been a better screen.

    The upgrade from the 1st gen to the 3GS is HUGE! There's no ifs, ands, buts about it. This is how I see Apple moving forward. A certain number of people will get the new iPhone every year - regardless.

    I think Apple wants to give you a big bump in specs every two years to convince you to upgrade.
  22. PNutts macrumors 601


    Jul 24, 2008
    Pacific Northwest, US
    Which camera and what features? Are you still using it? I remember what we were deploying five years ago. Yikes! :)
  23. jsw Moderator emeritus


    Mar 16, 2004
    Andover, MA
    The reason there's not a higher resolution screen is simply that there isn't a good, cheap supplier of higher-resolution touch displays who can handle Apple's volume.

    They'd switch in a heartbeat if they had such a supplier. Battery life isn't an issue unless they significantly increase the screen size, and the newer graphics could drive a higher-res display if need be. These "480x320 screens are all I need" discussions will seem incredibly quaint soon enough.
    A decent 3G S-only game is going to make a fortune because everyone's going to get it to show off their new phone. The strategy won't work for long, or for many, but the first few 3G S games are going to make a killing just because they show off the 3G S. And you can bet Apple will feature them.
  24. gloss macrumors 601


    May 9, 2006
    I've got no inherent problem with higher-resolution screens, but not if they were to come at the expense of responsiveness, performance, or battery life on the phone. If they could manage a high-res screen without sacrificing the quality of the UI experience, more power to them. I'll take it.
  25. jsw Moderator emeritus


    Mar 16, 2004
    Andover, MA
    As has been mentioned above, higher resolution doesn't have to translate into smaller buttons and tiny fonts. It translates into better-looking screen elements and the potential to fit more on the screen.

    All else (performance, etc.) being equal, higher resolution is always better with a resolution-independent OS.

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