Why no FaceTime camera upgrade?!

Discussion in 'iPad' started by tr43z0r, Mar 7, 2012.

  1. tr43z0r macrumors regular

    Mar 22, 2011
    Leicestershire, UK
    My only disappointment (and a very slight disappointment) with the new iPad is tha it has the same front facing camera as the iPad 2.

    I couldn't care less about the rear camera; I only use it during FaceTime. I think using an iPad to take photographs is ridiculous, and that people doing it look ridiculous.

    Anyone else disappointed by the lack of an HD FaceTime camera?
  2. digiphantom macrumors regular

    Jun 20, 2008
    Yeah I am disappointed too, especially when their touting the Retina display. Then again I was disappointed when the latest Macbook Air also didn't upgrade to a Facetime HD camera.

    I still ordered the iPad 3 though, since it's an upgrade over my iPad 1.
  3. tr43z0r thread starter macrumors regular

    Mar 22, 2011
    Leicestershire, UK
    I'm still upgrading over the iPad 2. I don't use either of the cameras often, so it's certainly a minor complaint, but a camera that's at least better than a cheap webcam would've been nice.
  4. thelead macrumors 6502a

    Apr 30, 2010
    i'm disappointed as well. I want to know about the memory as well...
  5. tr43z0r thread starter macrumors regular

    Mar 22, 2011
    Leicestershire, UK
    As far as specs are concerned, I don't know why people make a huge fuss about them. If the new iPad performs as well as the iPad 2 despite the retina display I'll be happy. If Apple can make it do that with as little processing power as possible then great, more battery life and less heat!
  6. thelead macrumors 6502a

    Apr 30, 2010
    Because I care about performance. I don't like web pages refreshing when I switch tabs (which still occurs on the iPad 2).
  7. tr43z0r thread starter macrumors regular

    Mar 22, 2011
    Leicestershire, UK
    Than that's a valid reason :) You must use more tabs than me lol.

    Personally I'm happy with the performance of the iPad 2, but I guess I don't use it as heavily as some people.
  8. thelead macrumors 6502a

    Apr 30, 2010
    I use tabs like there's no tomorrow :D
  9. gigemzach macrumors 6502

    Dec 31, 2009
    San Antonio, Texas
    I was very disappointed by this, too. I could care less about the back camera. I don't facetime often, but when I do the quality of the front camera is horrid. I would have preferred to see a minor upgrade on both cameras instead of a bigger one on the back.
  10. tr43z0r thread starter macrumors regular

    Mar 22, 2011
    Leicestershire, UK
  11. ScubaCinci macrumors 65816


    Jul 11, 2008
    Cincinnati OH
  12. Signor S. macrumors member

    Aug 29, 2011
    More than likely it will be a feature touted in the fourth generation iPad.
  13. lilo777 macrumors 603

    Nov 25, 2009
    The answer is rather simple. With better camera resolution all face defects would look horrible on a retina:apple: display.
  14. Richardgm macrumors 6502a


    Aug 1, 2008
    That's what I was thinking too.
  15. Edd.Dantes macrumors 6502

    Dec 5, 2007

    This makes no sense to me. Are we talking Bus bandwidth or wireless/cellular?

    If we are talking wireless, then bandwidth is not an issue. Cellular, again, not an issue as facetime wont work anyway.

    I'd love to hear the argument on Bus Bandwidth.

    Not trying to be a smartass, just trying to figure out why two people think this is bandwidth related.
  16. iSingandiDance macrumors 6502a


    Apr 24, 2010
    I'm sure there will be some kind of accessory that will allow you to use your rear-facing camera to Facetime. Just wait for it.
  17. elaniemay macrumors 6502


    Oct 11, 2011
    California, USA
    Face defects, haha...I love it.
  18. jav6454 macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2007
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
    Think network connection bandwidth and pixel amount. It'll hit you why.
  19. PurdueGuy macrumors regular

    Jun 23, 2010
    You can only do FaceTime over WiFi. And then you should have at least as good a camera as a computer. Something better than VGA!
  20. Ivanlau macrumors newbie

    Jun 6, 2011
  21. jbg232 macrumors 65816


    Oct 15, 2007
    From posts in the past it seems that upgraded cameras would require the casing of the iPad to be thicker. Apple probably thinks that thin case > better front camera. The case may be redesigned for iPad 4 however...
  22. colmaclean macrumors 68000


    Jan 6, 2004
    The rear-facing camera is called iSight. It would be confusing to call it FaceTime, saying as you can't perform a face-to-face chat (without using mirrors ;) )

    I don't imagine the front-facing camera has such a bad resolution due to bandwidth restraints.

    Any video chat software worth its salt will negotiate video quality when a call is set up and downgrade video accordingly.

    You could have a 20 megapixel webcam but if your connection is poor, software will downgrade it. However, if your connection is of sufficient quality, it won't.

    To say this has to be controlled by the resolution of the camera hardware is crazy.
  23. tr43z0r, Mar 8, 2012
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2012

    tr43z0r thread starter macrumors regular

    Mar 22, 2011
    Leicestershire, UK
    Everyone's screaming bandwidth... How is it different from watching a high quality YouTube video/Netflix etc.?


    Thank you, the first sensible reply I've seen. I didn't even think of that. I would've thought they could get around it somehow. They already have one decent camera in it. But this makes more sense than bandwidth.
  24. WalledMacGarden macrumors regular

    Apr 18, 2010
    The new Toshiba tablet 0.30 thin has a 2 megapixel front camera, I really can't figure it out? should have been upgraded, the back camera seems less important. but oh well, there is always the iPad 4 or should I say the new new iPad. And this will not stop anyone from buying, (Apple knows this) people are not going to jump ship to Toshiba for a front camera.
  25. smiddlehurst macrumors 65816

    Jun 5, 2007
    Suspect it's a space issue. Here's the front facing camera in the iPad 2:


    There really isn't much space to work with there, especially with the taper on the back. Yeah, other tablets may fit in a larger unit but look where they position it and I wouldn't be surprised to find there's a LOT more space in the design (e.g. no taper and just a consistant thickness through the whole tablet).

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