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Why no iPhone style iCamera?
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I don't think we're missing a point. Apple correctly saw somethign missing, in the iPhone and iPad markets. There's nothing missing in the digital camera market. Its in decline, just look at the sales numbers, people are not buying point and shoots any more. Why would Apple invest in a shrinking market that most people agree is going to continue thanks to the improvements of cell phone cameras.
What could Apple do on a point shoot that is better then Nikon, Canon, Samsung, Sony, Fuji, Panasonic, Olympus, Pentax, Epson, Casio, Konica Minolta, Ricoh.
See the list which is not exhaustive - you're proposing Apple insert itself into a shrinking market that is over-crowded as it stands now. How in the world would they make any profit on such a gambit?
There's definitely something missing in the point and shoot market. Trust me, the point and shoot cameras from all those companies are crap. What Apple could do #1 is make the camera fun. And having all the iPhone style apps and 3rd party camera/pic editing apps for it would make it great.
The way they make a profit is just not worry about those other companies. Those other companies aren't doing anything halfway decent and they aren't Apple.
People here are so narrow minded.
Here's the point, when I think as an Apple consumer, I don't CARE about any of those other brands, I want an iPhone style camera. Period.
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Nope, I'm dead on on that one. How else did they get millions of people to buy iPads?
Do you feel good about yourself? Is making it sound like I'm so off the mark that only you could be right and I'm wrong? It's funny since I look to be the only professional photographer in this discussion, other than the guy who did yearbook, I guess?
I can easily say that the general consensus is that camera makers are in a fight of their life to survive, given the popularity of camera phones and P&S cameras are a dying breed. The P&S market has shown consistent and steady decrease in sales. Placing a fruit logo on the camera isn't about to change that trend.
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Get an iPod touch then, what you describe is a device that can take pictures and run iOS apps, so if that's not an iPhone then its the iPod touch.
There is no reason to, because of the law of diminishing returns. I already have an iphone, dslr and lenses and a point and shoot. The P&S rarely gets used to MAFLYNNs point. Another camera is not going to suitably improve my lot in life as a photographer.
Oh god no. The reason I want an actual camera is so it's an actual camera with a real shutter button and real optical zoom. And a big sensor if possible.
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But I'm not talking about you, I'm only concerned with why I need it.
I don't think this is needed. Nothing personal was said and the comment was with regard to the post.
If you are a pro photographer your primary source of income is from photography and earnings derived from your work? Right? And you are able to make a living at it.
No not primary source. Why? Is this about to be a pissing contest over photo knowledge? Because I don't prove things on the Internet.
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If you paid attention I comically linked to that.....
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Funny how when someone tells the "truth" they're being hostile. I know it hurts to be called out sometimes..... Is that what happened here?
As far as the rest of your rant..... You're saying an iphone is more like a DSLR than an iPod..... Ummmm ok.
Funny how often somebody acts hostile and mislabels it as the "truth."
"I'm just saying the truth: you're up Apple's butt! Don't be up Apple's butt and I wouldn't have to say it!"
Internet Narcissists.
So you need an apple camera?
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Thank you, you answered my question. I guess anyone who derives any remuneration from photography can be a pro.
You have no right to complain about how other view your posts when you do exactly the same thing about what you are complaining about.
And given that you're a professional photographer, what insight does that give you to the amateur, non-photographer market.
I'm an amateur. I own an iPhone and a DSLR. The iPhone, of course, is always with me. The DSLR only when I'm planning to take photos.
What would the iCamera do for me? Why would I carry it with me more than my DSLR?
And Apple is only concerned with products that millions of people will buy. So far you haven't given any indication of why that would happen.
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No - I said I didn't. Why will I carry this everywhere? If I wanted a camera that I could carry everywhere in addition to my iPhone, I'd buy one of the many quality point and shoots with optical zoom. You've failed to identify any advantage an iCamera would or could have over any of them.
Yeah I did you just missed it. It would sell millions because it's an Apple product.
But the cherry on top is that fact that everyone these days love taking photos and sharing them.
I said that because it makes no sense for Apple to invest is point and shoot cameras. They want you to buy an iPhone. No offence meant. sorry.
OK cool.
But that's the beauty of it. More people will buy the iPhone just so it can interact with their cool new camera. Upload things to Facebook, airdrop, text message.
Look at all the topics just about optical image stabilization rumors. There is a lot missing with the iPhone camera.
Apple cannot replace DSLRs and mirrorless high-end cameras. They want a thinner device, lenses are bound by certain laws of physics.
As for creating a point and shoot? They did, it's called your iPhone or iPod or (for some poor souls) the iPad.
Point and shoot cameras are dying. They're all crap in that segment of the market because no one is willing to pay for quality at the low end--you can take nearly as good pictures with your cell phone, and you can share and make alterations far more easily. Why would Apple bother spinning off one feature of their device and make a mediocre version of it?
As for creating a point and shoot? They did, it's called your iPhone or iPod or (for some poor souls) the iPad.
Point and shoot cameras are dying. They're all crap in that segment of the market because no one is willing to pay for quality at the low end--you can take nearly as good pictures with your cell phone, and you can share and make alterations far more easily. Why would Apple bother spinning off one feature of their device and make a mediocre version of it?
I've got news for you then. Point and shoot cameras have tiny sensors, and limited optical zooms. Apple isn't going to spend a lot of money placing a large sensor, high end optics, an A7 (or A8) processor, iOS and charge 800 dollars for a point and shoot camera when the market has a price point of 200 dollars.
So your whole point and justification is that because the camera would have a fruit logo, it would succeed where other failed, People would lay down hundreds of dollars for a product that does nothing more then their iPhone would do.
They buy the camera so they can use their iPhone to upload stuff to facebook and what not - but they can do that now.
Point and shoot cameras aren't "crap". If you don't understand them, then you don't get how to use a camera to begin with. They all are based on camera standards that have existed for decades now.
iOS 8 is going to open up the whole camera API, with features such as those that you are wanting. It won't be as nice as having the physical buttons, but you're most likely going to have a case that snaps on your device to do such a thing after someone funds a crazy Kickstarter to do so.
Apple already made an iOS equipped camera - The iPod Touch. Sony makes an attachable lens if you really want one.
It's not going to get any better than that.
iOS 8 is going to open up the whole camera API, with features such as those that you are wanting. It won't be as nice as having the physical buttons, but you're most likely going to have a case that snaps on your device to do such a thing after someone funds a crazy Kickstarter to do so.
Apple already made an iOS equipped camera - The iPod Touch. Sony makes an attachable lens if you really want one.
It's not going to get any better than that.
I'm confused at this thread. Isn't the iphone the best all around smart device on the market already? P&S camera included?
If I wanted more performance, I'd buy a real camera. Otherwise, my phones in my pocket.
OP wants an apple camera, which is fine, I want an apple lots of stuff. But it isn't needed, wouldn't sell, cause we have one already.
What you're asking for is niche at best, sorry.
If I wanted more performance, I'd buy a real camera. Otherwise, my phones in my pocket.
OP wants an apple camera, which is fine, I want an apple lots of stuff. But it isn't needed, wouldn't sell, cause we have one already.
What you're asking for is niche at best, sorry.