All iPads Why No NFC?

[AdonisSMU]

Because it would be annoying as crap to see people pull out a giant ipad and tap it to make a purchase.

Like its annoying to see people using their huge phones as phones.

 

[617aircav]

Nfc has other uses apart from payment, should Apple choose to open it up.

 

[AdonisSMU]

I rarely ever see businesses that use an iPad as their "register". And I live in Silicon Valley.

In nyc they use it all the time at mom and pop shops.

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Nfc has other uses apart from payment, should Apple choose to open it up.

Lets wait and see first. I dont believe that to be true.

 

[tawfiqmp]

Good point. I guess that wouldn't matter to me because I don't eat at food trucks!

If you're ever in the Austin area, I'd recommend trying one. They can be delicious!

 

[Charliebird]

I rarely ever see businesses that use an iPad as their "register". And I live in Silicon Valley.

Check out Nordstrom's it's pretty cool.

 

[AdonisSMU]

Food trucks use it all the time with Square.. at least around here in Houston and in Austin.

Ewwwww... I have no interest in eating garbage on a plate.

 

[awests]

Ewwwww... I have no interest in eating garbage on a plate.

I'm sorry you don't have any quality food trucks near you!

 

[Davidish]

I agree with OP. Once NFC access is opened up to developers, iPad Air 2 users will be left without access to those features. They'll probably add it the next generation models as a selling point like they did with Touch ID on the iPad mini 3. Kind of expected this though.

 

[tawfiqmp]

Ewwwww... I have no interest in eating garbage on a plate.

Seems like you've had a bad experience with food trucks. Don't let one or two experiences ruin it for you though. Try it in a better city where food trucks are a thing.

 

[bobbba]

In nyc they use it all the time at mom and pop shops.

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Lets wait and see first. I dont believe that to be true.

NFC is used for loads of things other than payment on other platforms. Cameras, speakers, headphones, printers and more

My guess is that apple will open up NFC for other uses with iOS 9 and they will add it to the iPad Air 3 at the same time exactly like apple has done with touchid.

 

[12vElectronics]

If you're ever in the Austin area, I'd recommend trying one. They can be delicious!

Plenty of food trucks here. I just don't trust em.

Check out Nordstrom's it's pretty cool.

I shop at places that don't rip you off.

 

[mashinhead]

I think you mean a really tiny ball drop.
POS is a very small, niche use-case.

I disagree. I live in So Cal and many businesses I frequent use iPads as POS. I do at least one to three transactions a day on iPads. I wouldn't call it niche.

Either way, the under lying point I'm trying to make is that for iPay to succeed it needs to be in as many places as possible. It is to Apple's advantage to use the resources they have to make that possible. It's not a decision that's hurting the consumer as much as it's hurting the company. It does nothing to us really, it just doesn't make sense for them not to do have done it.

 

[DoofenshmirtzEI]

I disagree. I live in So Cal and many businesses I frequent use iPads as POS. I do at least one to three transactions a day on iPads. I wouldn't call it niche.

I have never seen a business using an iPad as a POS. I know they exist, I'm just saying they're nowhere near as ubiquitous outside of your area.

Apple sold 26 million iPads in the fourth quarter of 2013. 1% of that is 260,000 iPads. Do you honestly think anywhere near 260,000 iPads per quarter are sold as PoS terminals? It is a very niche application, and again, makes about as much sense as putting a credit card swiper on every iPad.

 

[nutmac]

Probably next year with the iPad Air 3.

And then in 2016 they'll add it to the iPad mini 5. :roll eyes:



No they don't. That's only for in-app payments.

TouchID enables on-device purchases (i.e. within apps). No NFC means no in-store purchases.

Meanwhile, this isn't a missed opportunity. The NFC in the iPhones is meant for sending payments through NFC terminals, not receiving payments from other NFC devices. And since the NFC is locked to Apple Pay only, there's no way for third parties to take advantage of it.

What I could see is companies like Square offering NFC enabled card readers. So you can do a swipe or a tap to pay and Square processes it the same way.

No, Apple says it otherwise:

Fast, easy, secure payments with Apple Pay.
Everyone loves to shop on iPad, and now it’s simpler and safer than ever. You can easily add your credit or debit card from your iTunes account, or capture card information with the iSight camera on your iPad. When you’re ready to check out, select Apple Pay, touch your finger lightly on the Home button, and you’re done — no need to type in shipping and billing information. And when you pay with Apple Pay, your card details are never shared by Apple or transmitted with payment to the online merchant.

 

[rotation]

You're going to drag around your 10" tablet and try to use it as a wallet?




The iPad doesn't have NFC because it doesn't need it. Get an iPhone 6 if you want NFC.

 

[617aircav]

You're going to drag around your 10" tablet and try to use it as a wallet?









The iPad doesn't have NFC because it doesn't need it. Get an iPhone 6 if you want NFC.

Nfc has more use than that if Apple decide to open it up.

 

[rorschach]

No, Apple says it otherwise:

Read it again.

iPad page:

When you’re ready to check out, select Apple Pay, touch your finger lightly on the Home button, and you’re done — no need to type in shipping and billing information. And when you pay with Apple Pay, your card details are never shared by Apple or transmitted with payment to the online merchant

iPhone page:

Apple Pay lets you use iPhone 6 to pay in hundreds of thousands of stores with a single touch. Just place your finger on the Touch ID sensor with your iPhone near the contactless reader, and your payment is sent. Apple Pay makes it just as convenient to pay within apps, too.

And compare the specs pages. iPhone lists NFC, iPad does not.

http://www.apple.com/iphone-6/specs/
http://www.apple.com/ipad-air-2/specs/

 

[rotation]

Nfc has more use than that if Apple decide to open it up.

In my experience on my old Galaxy S4 it was something of a gimmick although I did once transfer an app (this while me and my friend are tapping are phones together like we are pretending they kiss, over and over, because of course it takes 30 tries)

 

[whtrbt7]

I really wonder if Apple would open up NFC usage as that would pretty much make for an easy back door to the system. Luckily, I use a jacket with an NFC blocker but I can see people stealing credentials or account numbers using the NFC chip. All it takes is a momentary close contact on the street and a hacker could grab a lot of info.

 

[mrex]

just turn the chip off... no needs for a tinfoil hat. i dont how apple is going to use nfc, but my android doesnt do that.

 

[ZBoater]

You're going to drag around your 10" tablet and try to use it as a wallet?




The iPad doesn't have NFC because it doesn't need it. Get an iPhone 6 if you want NFC.

According to iFixit it does.

 

[terraphantm]

I really wonder if Apple would open up NFC usage as that would pretty much make for an easy back door to the system. Luckily, I use a jacket with an NFC blocker but I can see people stealing credentials or account numbers using the NFC chip. All it takes is a momentary close contact on the street and a hacker could grab a lot of info.

It'd be no more of a backdoor than bluetooth already is

 

[rotation]

According to iFixit it does.

No according to iFixit it has an NFC transmitter but no antenna.







No antenna = NO NFC