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Why should I buy Apple displays?

janitorC7 said:
You do not have to calibrate it, doing so will give you little benefit, and yes you can get a cheeper calibrator, but you will get no benefit on it using a ACD as any benefit would be very specific and would require much expense.

as per the second part, no most people don't buy them because they are expensive and the quality only makes a big difference for people who work in digital arts.
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So what you are saying is that the ACD is perfectly calibrated out of the factory and will retain that throughout its life with no calibration? If that is the case you are deep in the reality distortion field.

The ACD is hardly perfect from the factory. Furthermore, displays change with age. That day one ACD will be different in 6 months. Most designers understand the benefit of a calibrator and they own one as well. Again, the ACD is not some magic display that will keep perfect calibration throughout its life.

As per your response on the second part, my point was that they are overpriced. And furthermore ACDs are hardly the epitome of quality as you are asserting. They look good, but there are much better for digital arts people.
 
eXan said:
First of all, AppleTV is meant to be connected to a TV, not to a computer monitor.

Secondly, why do you want ACD to have both audio and video signals in one cord? These displays dont even have speakers (and they shouldn't have).

Your post is totally untrue.
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He wants HDCP so he can watch Britney Spears music videos in HD ;)

HDCP == HD Content Protection, != HDMI. Basically, it makes sure your monitor is "trusted" and not a video recording device, so it can send precious MPAA materials to it without risk of piracy!!!!

;)

These posts are ridiculous, what's different between a Dell LCD and an Apple LCD? Generally, everything. About a year ago, the 20", and 30"ers used the same LCDs, but I'm fairly sure Dell has moved on by now, they don't even make the 30"er anymore, do they?

If you look at a site like Anandtech, they cover a lot of things, and generally the ACDs have been cast off there quite a long time ago in favor of newer, more capable LCD panels. The problem is, like most review sites they favor things like contrast ratio over viewing angle.

LCD manufacturers (and the computer companies that buy from them), noticed this and decided to make LCDs that really impress what they want to see. The problem is, the more you "enhance" an LCD, the worse the viewing angle becomes.

That's how we end up with the cheap saturday night specials being used in MacBooks, iMacs, etc where the visibility range is almost as bad as an LCD from 10 years ago. They use gimmicks such as glossy polarizers to try and steer you away from the fact that the screen's quality isn't really that great ;)

Anyway, the ACDs, being older, thankfully still haven't been affected by this fad, but I wouldn't give it long.

If you asked me whether I'd buy another ACD (we've got a 23"er and a 22"er, both of the ADC variety), I'd have a tough time answering that. I really, really want a 30"er, but my 22"er was a customer service nightmare and the end result was an LCD that *still* isn't perfect. For what I paid, I could have had a 30"er *and* a 20"er today :\

Oh well, what can I say? The big ole' displays are sexy, and I want something bigger (yet again) to differentiate myself from the now commonplace 20" (and 23/24" while less so) screens. :D
 
JoeG4 said:
He wants HDCP so he can watch Britney Spears music videos in HD ;)
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Hah!

HDCP == HD Content Protection, != HDMI. Basically, it makes sure your monitor is "trusted" and not a video recording device, so it can send precious MPAA materials to it without risk of piracy!!!!

;)
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HDMI is quite the sex though. The first time I've seen a HDTV with HDMI lead and was blown away on the picture angles, how it remained strong and incredibly vibrant. This was a few weeks back when I got Sky HD. Normally it was rigged up to the regular Sky box via scart. As there was nowhere the new leads could be used.

These posts are ridiculous, what's different between a Dell LCD and an Apple LCD? Generally, everything. About a year ago, the 20", and 30"ers used the same LCDs, but I'm fairly sure Dell has moved on by now, they don't even make the 30"er anymore, do they?
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The last I checked from some pretty tech savvy people Apple and Dell are using panels between Samsung and LG.

If I mind right when the Dell 30" first came out they were using LG. Then moved over to Samsung. As I'm pretty sure Apple is using LG. As people said LG has the somewhat grainy look on the screens which all the Apple ACD's have.
 
suneohair said:
So what you are saying is that the ACD is perfectly calibrated out of the factory and will retain that throughout its life with no calibration? If that is the case you are deep in the reality distortion field.

The ACD is hardly perfect from the factory. Furthermore, displays change with age. That day one ACD will be different in 6 months. Most designers understand the benefit of a calibrator and they own one as well. Again, the ACD is not some magic display that will keep perfect calibration throughout its life.

As per your response on the second part, my point was that they are overpriced. And furthermore ACDs are hardly the epitome of quality as you are asserting. They look good, but there are much better for digital arts people.
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Out of the factory, NO. But all displays from apple are calibrated after they are manufactured (see my original post), and NO they will not maintail perfect calibration, but history shows that they do a pretty good job of it
 
eXan said:
First of all, AppleTV is meant to be connected to a TV, not to a computer monitor.

Secondly, why do you want ACD to have both audio and video signals in one cord? These displays dont even have speakers (and they shouldn't have).

Your post is totally untrue.
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No, my post is very true. The ACD does not have HDCP.
 
My best friend's son goes to one of the top tier photography universities in the US and their labs all use the Dell 2407 WFP-HC.

As a designer, who does a bit of photography on the side, that's the monitor I favor as well. I was using the 23" ADC monitor, but when the 2407-HC came out just couldn't resist. The colors and accuracy are a significant improvement over previous models.
 
Which 30" would be best for a web designer who does no print, and really doesn't need perfect color?

I don't edit photos for photography's sake, and I don't do any work of importance that is meant to be printed.

I am leaning towards the Dell. Plus, my Samsung 21's which I am going to keep, are black.
 
Sean, many consider the 30" Displays to be the best. No matter who you get it from really. If I was buying one today, I would probably buy the Apple unless Dell had some amazing deal. The HP hasn't been around long enough. Also, the Samsung 30" is pretty new as well.

I think both the Dell and Apple are great, Apple obviously has the style part. The reason I won't by a 30" is lack of flexibility with inputs. I also think it is too big in some regards for my workflow.

Anyhow, here is my formula:
if Dell $300 < Apple
buy Dell
else buy Apple

Unless of course you don't like the Apple. Keep an eye open at hardforum.com about the Samsung and HP, you may find that they perform better for less, I haven't keep up with the 30" scene so I am not sure.
 
suneohair said:
The reason I won't by a 30" is lack of flexibility with inputs. I also think it is too big in some regards for my workflow.
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I agree with that part somewhat. It's nice for my work but the thing is the 30" affects me the most from time to time, is eyestrain. I have to take a lot of breaks as it feels like its sucking my eyes out if I sit too long at it, headaches too. Thats even 3 - 4 feet away. The thing that really helps is I have to use dark backgrounds to take the pain away.

Been using it since May, with a 23" sitting next to it.
 
Yeah, I recently had to get glasses because of eye strain. I have an astigmatism. The glasses really help, although I still take breaks.

I have dual 24s right now and for me that works well.
 
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