Why the lack of a standard USB port?

[turbineseaplane]

If only Apple supplied the headphone adapter in the box, oh wait. Some people forget their chargers, is that Apple's fault for requiring one?

You can do better than this at snark I think.

 

[burgman]

You can do better than this at snark I think.

Not snark at all, valid question about personal responsibility don't you think? However I offer this example of weak snark:
Good on you Apple for collecting from the Dongle$ and Adapter$ I guess..

 

[turbineseaplane]

Not snark at all, valid question about personal responsibility don't you think?

No, I don't

 

[Fishrrman]

bcave wrote:
"It is a standard, as published by the organization that sets USB standards."

So was firewire.
How many new computers are being sold with it today?

 

[bcave098]

bcave wrote:
"It is a standard, as published by the organization that sets USB standards."

So was firewire.
How many new computers are being sold with it today?

Very few because it is a dated standard (set by IEEE in 1995) that was designed in the 1980s, and its highest theoretical speed (800 Mbps) is two percent of that of ThunderBolt 3. Doesn't change the fact that it's a standard, and is irrelevant.

USB-C is as much a standard as USB-A was when the original iMac was released. Actually, USB-C was already more prevalent than USB-A was in 1998.

Also, there's a quote mechanism built into this forum software, by the way.

 

[Fishrrman]

bcave wrote:
"Also, there's a quote mechanism built into this forum software, by the way."

I write most of my posts in a text editor, and have no interest in this forum's "quoting" software (nor in any other forum's quoting mechanisms). Thank you very much.

"Standards" come, and "standards" go.
It's the market that will determine whether or not they remain adapted.

With USB-c, that is yet to be foreseen.
It will take at least 5 more years to sort out.

Even with the advent of USB-c, USB-a is going to remain a world-adapted standard for many years to come.

 

[aevan]

bcave wrote:
"Also, there's a quote mechanism built into this forum software, by the way."

I write most of my posts in a text editor, and have no interest in this forum's "quoting" software (nor in any other forum's quoting mechanisms). Thank you very much.

You should have interest, because it notifies people you’re quoting and makes communication easier. You can still write the post in the editor, just click reply in the browser, copy the text and paste it in your editor. The quote system is here to make it easier for people to follow conversations.
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Even with the advent of USB-c, USB-a is going to remain a world-adapted standard for many years to come.

True, but you can still use USB-A with a few cheap adapters and USB-C makes the computer slimmer. You actually have more USB-A ports this way.

But we’ve all been over this several times on the forums. People either like the usb-c only situation or hate it. Pick your side, pick your computer and live with it.

 

[bcave098]

bcave wrote:
"Also, there's a quote mechanism built into this forum software, by the way."

I write most of my posts in a text editor, and have no interest in this forum's "quoting" software (nor in any other forum's quoting mechanisms). Thank you very much.

"Standards" come, and "standards" go.
It's the market that will determine whether or not they remain adapted.

With USB-c, that is yet to be foreseen.
It will take at least 5 more years to sort out.

Even with the advent of USB-c, USB-a is going to remain a world-adapted standard for many years to come.

No, they don’t come and go. Usage and adoption may, but the standards remain. IEEE 1394 (aka FireWire) is still a standard as is USB-C and USB-A. USB-A isn’t “more” of a standard.

Adoption of USB-C is happening quickly. Look at Dell’s latest XPS 13. Only USB-C and ThunderBolt 3 ports.

You should have interest, because it notifies people you’re quoting and makes communication easier. You can still write the post in the editor, just click reply in the browser, copy the text and paste it in your editor. The quote system is here to make it easier for people to follow conversations.

Exactly my point. It also allows readers to quickly find the post that you’re quoting, which is especially important when you only quote one sentence like @Fishrrman does.

 

[Queen6]

Man - There are some horrible analogies being made in this thread..

Was just on a ski trip with some guys...

The "music fan" in the group didn't have a dongle with him and couldn't plug his iP7 into the music system all week...unrelated but his space bar started also sticking on his 2016 MBP on Saturday...

I've never seen this guy so upset..
Apple is really winning everyone over!

Whole time I was lmao as I just plopped the SD card from our group trip camcorder into the side of my 2015 MBP and backed up the video each day while enjoying the tunes from my SE through the Aux jack on the vacation house sound system.

The future may be wireless and USB-C - But the real world isn't all living in the future, nor necessarily anywhere close, yet. Good on you Apple for collecting from the Dongle$ and Adapter$ I guess..

As I've even said to Apple it's currently impractical, nor is USB C mature enough, with varying cables and adaptors that do and don't work. Reality if the technology doesn't work people are not going to take risk when the hardware is directly related to revenue, and no doubt there's an aspect to the Dongle$ and Adapter$, margin is generally massive on such items...

As I've stated Apple's not remotely interested in USB C outside it allows Apple execute it's design language bringing thinner notebooks to market. "IF" Apple was serious they would have launched an appropriate USB C/TB-3 dock with the new MBP's and moved the rest of their product to USB C, Apple didn't, nor likely too anytime soon, mostly just sales & marketing BS on Apple's behalf.

I'll stick with my dongle free solution, even has TB-3, right now Apple's loss not mine...

Q-6

 

[TonyK]

A review for a TB3 hub.

https://fstoppers.com/originals/fstoppers-reviews-caldigit-thunderbolt-station-3-plus-217232