Nothing wrong with Windows either. In fact, it has many advantages over OS X. It's all depending on what the user intends to do with their iMac/Windows PC.
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Why would anyone buy an iMac instead of a Windows desktop?
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Nothing wrong with Windows either. In fact, it has many advantages over OS X. It's all depending on what the user intends to do with their iMac/Windows PC.
Well, your argument can be invalidated with the fact that Macs can run Windows too.
Windows can't run OS X.
End of story.
Windows can't, but any computer can. Hackintosh.
And while gaming on Mac is just OK, if you really want to game, a Wintel box is the way to go.
Exactlyeverything has form.
And Apple has found, over the history of the company, that form is important to it's customer segment. Visual information is important. For example, it tells you a fruit is a fruit, what type of fruit it is, how ripe it is, how sweet it is, whether its untouched or eaten by insects, whether its healthy or diseased. Visual and aesthetic information has always been important to our survival, and therefor our brain is automatically and incessantly analyzing it (subconsciouslywhich affects our mood and state).
So if you're going to not hide a computer, which you don't do with an all-in-one, aesthetic value is part of what this customer segment wants and is paying for.
Which one is more pleasing, and which one is more stressful? A beautifully healthy, vibrant, shiny, red apple on your deskora dull, diseased, scratched and filled with holes apple on your desk, with fruit flies? The latter would stress you out each time you walked in the room, just from the visual information.
I'm not drawing a comparison between Mac and PC (as PCs can look good as well). I'm saying there is a spectrum between beauty and ugly, pleasure and stress, and Apple prefers to lean towards beauty and pleasure (as part of their brand promise) because subconsciously we value that. This is why Jony Ive is a main player at Apple Inc. And value we exchange money for, and stay loyal to.
I would rather have this on my bedroom work-table, than this, and I know my wife would agree.
So it's not about form over function, it's about form adding to the function. Resources, form, function, are always limited, and for me Apple seems to manage a balance quite pleasurably.
And that's just on the subject of hardware aesthetics. I can't even begin to talk about Windows. Everytime I bootcamp into Win for games I cringe. Doesn't mean I can't appreciate Window's strengths, though.
My parents would struggle to follow the Bootcamp instructions in order to install Windows on their mac. So I doubt they'd be able to build a hackintosh, or put Mac OSX on a Dell PC (if even possible) without pulling their hair out first. Hackintosh building requires a strong will. Bootcamp is convenient.
I would be considering I watched a youtube video and it seems complicated as hell.
Sure. It's only simple if you know how to download a disc image, burn it to disc, select a few custom drivers in installation and possibly have to copy a few more with Finder once OS X is installed. Not advisable for them who can't burn discs, copy files and follow instructions.
I wouldn't recommend it what so ever to be honest. If you're using a PC, there is no reason why Windows won't do the job.
My parents couldn't either. But then again they have a hard time figuring out which input to put the TV on to watch blu rays.
I think a summary of an instillation process is not the same as an instillation process. It doesn't capture the mistakes, errors, and unforeseen happenings that will occur, let along the time, mental effort, and so on, that people like to avoid when it comes to these things.
Just looking at the instructions for Niresh, there are many requirements:
- You have to use bittorent to download the file
- You will write Niresh onto a USB drive and boot from that drive
- You have to use Win32 Disk Imager
- You have to download Multibeast
- You have to do things like setup the motherboard's BIOS
THEN, you have to make sure your PC/components are compatible (now let's read the compatibility guide)so this guide isn't relevant to I don't know how many PC owners.
Telling someone to climb Mount Everest by just going up, and actually climbing Mount Everest are two different things. To my parents, they might as well book a flight to Nepal because they aren't going to attempt to put Mac OSX on a Dell.
If there is something simpler than this, I'd like to know though (honestly).
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Tell me about it. "INPUT, it selects what device you're inputting into the TV, mah! No, input!"
Not sure what video you saw, but I followed the tutorial over at www.tonymacx86.com and it worked straight out of the box for me.
Tried it on a Linux box I was going to scrap. Liked OS X so much that I went all the way and bought the MBA. Haven't looked at Windows nor Linux since.
That was two years ago, and from using Linux nearly exclusively for 20.
BL.
Hackintosh isn't really the right way, because it violates the Apple SLA.
So that's out of the equation and not really ethical.
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That violates the Apple SLA, and it's not really that ethical or legal.
plus i'd imagine you're always going to wait for compatibility updates. Hackintosh is not the solution for anybody serious about their workload. It's more hobby. I don't understand hackintosh personally.
There's a lot of things wrong with Windows but I don't feel like writing an essay right now.
Sorry, but you are partially incorrect.
Does it violate Apple's TOS? Yes. Is it unethical? NO. Is it illegal? NO.
Apple will not support a Hackintosh, but it certainly is not illegal or unethical to install it on non-Apple hardware.
BL.
Although Apple has sexy looking hardware I buy a Mac for OS X. I really despise Windows. If Apple licensed OS X I might buy a non Apple PC. During the Clone Wars I had a PowerComputing Power 110. That was a fun box to tinker with.
You're wrong.
From the SLA:
Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, unless you obtained the Apple Software from the Mac App Store or under a volume license, maintenance or other written agreement from Apple, you are granted a limited, non- exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer at any one time. For example, these single-copy license terms apply to you if you obtained the Apple Software preinstalled on Apple-branded hardware.
If you obtained a license for the Apple Software from the Mac App Store, then subject to the terms and conditions of this License and as permitted by the Mac App Store Usage Rules set forth in the App Store Terms and Conditions (http://www.apple.com/legal/itunes/ww/) (“Usage Rules”), you are granted a limited, non-transferable, non-exclusive license:
(i) to download, install, use and run for personal, non-commercial use, one (1) copy of the Apple Software directly on each Apple-branded computer running OS X Mountain Lion, OS X Lion or OS X Snow Leopard (“Mac Computer”) that you own or control.
Installing OS X on a non-Apple branded computer is violating the SLA, and henceforth illegal.
the reason i buy a windows machine over a imac is simple one you can upgrade whenever you feel like it the other you have to upgrade it when you buy it. A second reason is that i have used windows all my life from Xp-8.1.
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Interesting thread...but often discussed.
It is funny to read all the threads about Apple's reliability when Apple's MBPs are more prone to failure than almost any notebook I have seen. Of course, the notebooks I have seen are only those in my friends' circle but still...
All the MBPs I got...2007, 2010 and 2012...all crapped out in three years because a bad GPU. And even AppleCare does not really help. For e.g., my 2012 MBP is still covered and I did get the logic board replaced but from what I understand, it is only a temporary measure. The notebook is a ticking timebomb!
I crossed over to Windows (really hate it) when my MBP crossed a line by crashing twice while I was programming for an interview! Can't beat that! Luckily, the MBP booted up and worked for 2 more hours before finally giving way. Joy oh joy!!!
I am on a Dell Precision now...built like a tank but huge. Crappy keyboard and trackpad and the worst OS ever (IMHO) but hey..it gets the job done reliably.
And yes, folks here are asking the MBP for a pittance compared to what I paid for it (even though it is under AppleCare!). Guess the resale value argument holds good only in the States but not in Singapore!
Interesting thread...but often discussed.
It is funny to read all the threads about Apple's reliability when Apple's MBPs are more prone to failure than almost any notebook I have seen. Of course, the notebooks I have seen are only those in my friends' circle but still...
All the MBPs I got...2007, 2010 and 2012...all crapped out in three years because a bad GPU. And even AppleCare does not really help. For e.g., my 2012 MBP is still covered and I did get the logic board replaced but from what I understand, it is only a temporary measure. The notebook is a ticking timebomb!
I crossed over to Windows (really hate it) when my MBP crossed a line by crashing twice while I was programming for an interview! Can't beat that! Luckily, the MBP booted up and worked for 2 more hours before finally giving way. Joy oh joy!!!
I am on a Dell Precision now...built like a tank but huge. Crappy keyboard and trackpad and the worst OS ever (IMHO) but hey..it gets the job done reliably.
And yes, folks here are asking the MBP for a pittance compared to what I paid for it (even though it is under AppleCare!). Guess the resale value argument holds good only in the States but not in Singapore!
My two dimes
I have a windows box with 3 gpus, "8" core proc, full tower, liquid cooling, etc etc that I use for gaming. For work though, I use an iMac 27. My only real reason is software; our studio uses Logic pro and the form factor is nice to be able to take it to and from the studio.
Also, movies, the screen is nicer than my benq 24.
I originally planned on hackintosh since I always build my own PCs but ultimately wanted something more portable but still have an enormous screen and a bit of power. I already have the gaming computer anyways.
-Benjamin
I have a windows box with 3 gpus, "8" core proc, full tower, liquid cooling, etc etc that I use for gaming. For work though, I use an iMac 27. My only real reason is software; our studio uses Logic pro and the form factor is nice to be able to take it to and from the studio.
Also, movies, the screen is nicer than my benq 24.
I originally planned on hackintosh since I always build my own PCs but ultimately wanted something more portable but still have an enormous screen and a bit of power. I already have the gaming computer anyways.
-Benjamin
Help needed
IM considering buying a imac for security and to escape from windows security threats. my work stored is of paramount concern to me as im in final year at college. things like cryptolocker really piss me off. anyhow i need to know if office mac that i work on at home will be transferable by usb to university pc's and vice versa. ie is word compatible can i plug and go from home to college and back again. university pc's are windows. also i have a very good sony laptop should i sell it or keep it as a backup for times when i need to run windows only programs. is it common to have say an imac and a windows laptop. finally do most major programs run on windows and macs?im new to macs so please bear with me. thanks alot. the new imac 27 with 512 flash is what im looking at.
IM considering buying a imac for security and to escape from windows security threats. my work stored is of paramount concern to me as im in final year at college. things like cryptolocker really piss me off. anyhow i need to know if office mac that i work on at home will be transferable by usb to university pc's and vice versa. ie is word compatible can i plug and go from home to college and back again. university pc's are windows. also i have a very good sony laptop should i sell it or keep it as a backup for times when i need to run windows only programs. is it common to have say an imac and a windows laptop. finally do most major programs run on windows and macs?im new to macs so please bear with me. thanks alot. the new imac 27 with 512 flash is what im looking at.
1. Yes, Office files between Macs and Windows can be transferred easily. As long as you have Office 2011 on Mac, you're fine.
2. Yes, it's common to have a Mac and a Windows system. However, you can sell off your existing Windows machine, because you can use Boot Camp to install Windows on a Mac. Boot Camp is a free utility that comes with every Mac.
3. Most major programs run on both Mac and Windows, like Creative Cloud, Matlab, Autodesk apps, etc. If you have any apps that are Windows-only, you can install Windows on a Mac via either:
-Virtualizing it (i.e. Parallels or VMware)
-Boot Camp
many thanks for your help. what i can't understand is to do with transferring office files from mac to pc and vice versa. office mac 2011 is all good. when using a usb however i have read about formatting and fat 32 compliance. so when transferring word files how come none of these factors come into play or are never mentioned? can i just use the usb flash i already have then simple as? learning always. thanks