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I support this wholeheartedly... Having to do tech support for family and friends is tedious with the technobabble. This just makes a lot of sense.

Well, until we get to WiFi 259.:p

Kidding aside, the new naming system does make sense.

Edit: After reading some posts here, does it really....Hmmmm, don't know....
 
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You’re being too generous using “written” and Abrams in the same sentence.
-partially regurgitated by Abrams
-spun around crazily and sparkled up with particle effects by Abrams
-just, you know, sort of jazzed up a bit by Abrams
-not sure what to do with by Abrams
-o god help us no by Abrams

...do seem more appropriate.
 



The Wi-Fi Alliance, dedicated to developing new wireless networking standards, is planning to make Wi-Fi naming simpler with the upcoming launch of the newest Wi-Fi standard, 802.11ax.

802.11ax will be known as "Wi-Fi 6," making it easier for Wi-Fi users to understand the difference between 802.11ax, 802.11ac, and 802.11n.

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With the launch of Wi-Fi 6, 802.11ac will be known as "Wi-Fi 5," while 802.11n will be known as "Wi-Fi 4."Wi-Fi 6 will introduce higher data rates, increased capacity, better performance in dense environments like concerts and sporting events, and improved power efficiency so Wi-Fi won't eat up as much battery on future devices.

In 802.11ax tests, speeds of up to 4.8Gbit/s over the 5GHz band have been reached. In demonstrations at CES, speeds maxed out at 11Gbit/s.

The new capabilities being introduced are outlined below, as specified by the Wi-Fi Alliance.

[*]Uplink and downlink orthogonal frequency division multiple access (OFDMA) increases efficiency and lowers latency for high demand environments
[*]1024 quadrature amplitude modulation mode (1024-QAM) enables peak gigabit speeds for emerging, bandwidth-intensive use cases
[*]Improved medium access control (MAC) control signaling increases throughput and capacity while reducing latency
[*]Increased symbol durations make outdoor network operations more robust

Wi-Fi 6 is expected to provide performance improvements to smart home setups with multiple Internet of Things devices, as well as businesses and those running large-scale deployments. The Wi-Fi 6 standard is expected to be finalized next year.

Article Link: Wi-Fi Alliance Simplifies Wi-Fi Naming Scheme With Upcoming 'Wi-Fi 6' Release
[doublepost=1538595422][/doublepost]• 802.11b - WiFi
• 802.11a - WiFi 3G
• 802.11g - WiFi 8
• 802.11n - WiFi X (Ten)
• 802.11ac - WiFi XS
• 802.11ax - WiFi XS Fast
 
Here I am still struggling to find an AC router that has the speed and reliability of my trusty old WRT54G


Huh, WTF... that crap router, horrible design (Taste) and unstable firmware, yes, if you put custom firmware on it, it will be much improved.
Bought one a decade or so ago (don't know the exact year) and returned it after just one day, got an Apple one which was sooo much better.

Get a Ubiquiti system for stability and performance.
 
Are we starting a pool on how long it takes Netgear or Linksys or ??? to begin advertising their wifi routers as being Wi-Fi 6 EXTREME or 6+PLUS or, heaven forbid Wi-Fi 4+5+6 = Wi-Fi 15 ?
 
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The number of Wifi devices have exploded in that last couple of years since 802.11ac is over five years old. As people add more to their network more problems arise. This means more tech calls.


Because they buy commercial crap routers, or get them through their providers.
 
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This is "meh". All it does is create the false illusion that the higher number is better. It's not, in all cases. On a very basic level, a higher number is better, but for example, people would absolutely prefer WiFi4 over WiFi5 in a large house, as the 802.11ac signal strength is weak.

If we are to believe that all future versions of WiFi - for example, WiFi7 - would both increase in signal strength, power, distance, speed, etc - then I'm all for this, otherwise it's the same problem we have now with a different name. With the way the 802.11 protocol has worked so far, this hasn't proven true, there are often revisions that focus more on speed or power, but rarely both.

You've got some good points, didn't think about it that way.
 
My experience with WiFi on the 5GHz band has always been poor. Shorter range and worse connectivity than the 2.4 GHz band. Has this been improved at all?
 
My experience with WiFi on the 5GHz band has always been poor. Shorter range and worse connectivity than the 2.4 GHz band. Has this been improved at all?


Does it matter if you have more access points or live in a moderate Appt as me, I have good reception everywhere, I must say though I have a Ubiquiti Unifi Pro AC which is both stable and has good range.
 
Having two different names and naming conventions for the exact same standards is somehow less confusing? To me it only seems more confusing.
Nope, people will just favor one naming convention over the other. Just like when Apple introduced FireWire as a standard, but the PC side decided the name was too cool so the adopted the bland IEEE 1394 name. No one used the IEEE 1394 naming convention. Or when Thunderbolt went by the name Light Peak as well. Of course no one calls it Light Peak anymore.
 
My only fear is that of unintended consequences.
With IEEE in charge of the WiFi spec 802.11ac, for example - everything is clearly spelled out and controlled.
Who determines what WiFi 6 is? Who controls and has ultimate responsibility for specifications, compliance and "compatibility" (which are NOT synonyms).

I hope we don't wind up with companies telling us that they have 4G/5G/6G that isn't even CLOSE to the specification; and the major carriers are the greatest offenders. I doubt anyone that is sporting a "5G" Connection is getting anywhere the specs. The simulation predicts 490 Mbit/s median speeds for a common configuration of 3.5 GHz 5G Massive MIMO. It predicts a 1.4 Gbit/s median speed for a configuration using 28 GHz millimeter waves.

And with 5G still unmet, we are hearing that 6G is just "around the corner". The fact is that 5G is more of a marketing ploy rather than a hard set of specifications.
 
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Ok, so the point in all of this?

So that Apple can release updated Airport routers for Wi-Fi 6.

#believe
 
This is "meh". All it does is create the false illusion that the higher number is better.

...at least it makes it so that the newer protocol has the higher number.

However, probably a mistake to start referring to the "old" protocols by number. Make a fresh start with "6"...
 
I do wireless for a living for a big tech customer and personally, I think its stupid. since its the wifi alliance its really meant for home users that are tech morons. but I will still call it what it is
 
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Of course they announce a new standard just weeks after I
upgrade my home WiFi to Mesh. Oh well, I'm pretty happy with what I have.

I don't see that they've announced a new standard--just a new naming convention. It's really irrelevant to the technology.
 
I don't mind this naming scheme which make it easier to differentiate. The alpha designation didn't make much sense but it should have been in order.

This is "meh". All it does is create the false illusion that the higher number is better. It's not, in all cases. On a very basic level, a higher number is better, but for example, people would absolutely prefer WiFi4 over WiFi5 in a large house, as the 802.11ac signal strength is weak.

If we are to believe that all future versions of WiFi - for example, WiFi7 - would both increase in signal strength, power, distance, speed, etc - then I'm all for this, otherwise it's the same problem we have now with a different name. With the way the 802.11 protocol has worked so far, this hasn't proven true, there are often revisions that focus more on speed or power, but rarely both.
I agree with you. I have the latest modem/router from Verizon and they state improved signal at distance of up to 325 ft. I would go outside my house and no further than 30 ft away and I don't get full bars. Even when I am inside and less than 20 ft, my signal may fluctuate.
 
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Here I am still struggling to find an AC router that has the speed and reliability of my trusty old WRT54G

C'mon, that's either incredibly naive or intentionally obtuse. The worst AC router in existence will blow away a WRT54G, and there are plenty as reliable. The Apple models, for one...
 
-partially regurgitated by Abrams
-spun around crazily and sparkled up with particle effects by Abrams
-just, you know, sort of jazzed up a bit by Abrams
-not sure what to do with by Abrams
-o god help us no by Abrams

...do seem more appropriate.
You forgot “lens flaired” by JJ.
 
Which system are you going with? My Airport devices are cable connected (I have 4 around the house) and 2 of them are used for the ethernet ports on the back for devices that are not WiFi. One has a 5 port switch connected. I'm not sure how I would go about using mesh with my current use needs.

The first question I'd ask is why you're looking to switch in the first place. I have an almost identical wired/wireless Apple setup (1x AC, 4x N) in my house and I just can't find a good reason to change anything even though I'm using 'old' technology. Hard wiring the Apple routers creates a pretty good impression of a mesh network, and I just don't do anything that needs more speed.

Do none of the mesh options have base units with Ethernet ports? Do any of them support being hardwired?

Worst case, you could always use a wireless bridge to connect the Ethernet devices to the wireless network, but I always view wireless as inferior to wired anyway, so you'd kind of be going backwards.
 
Now if only Apple would change their damn minds and release a new Time Capsule with at least a draft version later on. I will be really sad to let mine go. It's the perfect router/time machine backup combo. I would rarely backup up my machine if I had to connect an external drive every time I wanted to do a backup.
 
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