This comment made my day
Anyway, I don't think the OP has enough experience in this matter, and he would be wise to keep his mouth zipped to avoid himself from being looked upon as ignorant in matters like this
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Widescreen photos with iPhone??
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This comment made my day
Anyway, I don't think the OP has enough experience in this matter, and he would be wise to keep his mouth zipped to avoid himself from being looked upon as ignorant in matters like this
This comment made my day
Anyway, I don't think the OP has enough experience in this matter, and he would be wise to keep his mouth zipped to avoid himself from being looked upon as ignorant in matters like this
Please leave your arrogance at the door. Last I checked everyone has a right to their opinion in North america. I'm not saying the industry should change their default standard. Simply put in an option in the settings so that a person can take 16:9 photos by default. It would save time from having to go back to each photo one by one and crop them. I had a Canon point and shoot camera previous which had a feature to change the aspect ratio one wanted to shoot in prior to taking the picture.
you're ignorant on the matter and just don't understand how things work. You can't have an opinion for something that is physically impossible. The only solution is to have the photo modified into a widescreen picture, which Will ruin the pic.
Download an app that can do this, such as procam. Not everybody needs to suffer 16:9 photos just so someone can eliminate one step cropping pictures
You're right. Not everyone does want 16:9 photos. But the option should be there for those who do. Why is this so hard for people to understand. All it would take is an added feature in the software to make the option available for those who would want it. It's not too difficult.
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It wouldn't ruin the picture if that picture is taken in widescreen. The person would have the picture exactly how they want it.
The pic below is of the editing feature in the default photos app on the iPhone. This feature should be able to be used before the pic is taken to choose the aspect ratio one wants to shoot in.
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Pretty much this.
I had to re-read the OP a couple of times to make sure that he was really asking what I think he was asking. Some people think Apple can just ignore physics.
What does that have to do with anything. Whether I'm new or experienced at photography shouldn't matter. Who would want to display full screen photos on a widescreen display. Also all those desktop picture website out there which have pictures in widescreen (16:9 or 16:10) how did those pictures get like that? There must be cameras which shoot in those options.
The arrogance in this thread is off putting. I am a relatively experienced photographer and I am telling you that photos come in all shapes and sizes. It's a fact. Look it up. If you shoot with a "Pro DSLR" at 3:2 you have to crop pixels away to print an 8x10 or 5x7. Like I said before, there is nothing magical about 3:2.
While an argument could be made that Apple should physically change their sensors, it is not a requirement. Changing the software to allow a 16:9 option in a setting would be child's play. Why is it a preconfigured crop ratio if it's so horrible? But who wants to manually crop dozens of photos just to show them most attractively on your TV?
Apple WANTS you to view your photos on your HDTVs. They market the heck out of AirPlay. There is just no logical reason why they shouldn't add this as an option to maximize the viewing on a large TV, or an iPhone, or an iMac, or a MBP, since virtually ALL their devices are widescreen (except iPad).
Yes there are other apps and I use them. But they aren't easily accessible from the lock screen like the camera app is, so they are not as convenient. I promise this will be an iOS option one day, and they will call it "magical".
While an argument could be made that Apple should physically change their sensors, it is not a requirement. Changing the software to allow a 16:9 option in a setting would be child's play. Why is it a preconfigured crop ratio if it's so horrible? But who wants to manually crop dozens of photos just to show them most attractively on your TV?
Apple WANTS you to view your photos on your HDTVs. They market the heck out of AirPlay. There is just no logical reason why they shouldn't add this as an option to maximize the viewing on a large TV, or an iPhone, or an iMac, or a MBP, since virtually ALL their devices are widescreen (except iPad).
Yes there are other apps and I use them. But they aren't easily accessible from the lock screen like the camera app is, so they are not as convenient. I promise this will be an iOS option one day, and they will call it "magical".
The photos can be printed or displayed or saved in all kinds of sizes, but that's different from how they are actually shot, right?
As an educated, experienced image industry expert, do you know that the "Golden Ratio" is between 16:10 and 16:9?
It's 1.62, which is pretty close to halfway between 3:2 (1.5) and 16:9 (1.78)?
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If you know how the images will be displayed, you should shoot them in a format that meets that need.
Sure, but the hardware sensor is till there to support one particular native format.
I mean as far as offering a software "filtering" type of option to support that, sure Apple can add that if they want to (like they did with the "square" option, probably at least partially related to Instagram).
EXACTLY! Thanks for reminding me. I didn't even think about that they added a square option. That makes it even more ridiculous that they don't offer a 16:9 option when taking photos. It proves that not wanting to crop away pixels is not their motive. If they didn't offer square then they could make the argument that they want to maximize the quality of the pictures by always using the full resolution of the camera. But there goes that argument!
The device is 16:9 for crying out loud. Why wouldn't they offer that crop ratio? It's insane. Many (maybe most) people only ever view their photos on the phone or TV. I am not one of those people. I use a DSLR for my more important photos, but it's so convenient to share photos to the Apple TV for quick family photos.
Thank you!! Finally someone with some common sense who understands what I'm talking about. All I'm asking is the OPTION to shoot photos in 16:9 (or 16:10). Even if it's not the default setting that's fine. To change it after the fact with each photo one by one is tedious and time consuming. You'd think Apple who emphasized simplicity all these years would understand that.
Apple gets it, they likely just don't see enough of a need for it for whatever reason.
Like the op i would also like to have the option to shoot in 16:9 almost all cameras i have used have the option except for the iPhone
Even my galaxy s5 have it
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I own 6 digital cameras and none of them offer an option to shoot in 16:9. ????
I have four DSLRs and a couple of compacts. You mean some phone cameras offer 16:9 aspect?
4:3, and even better 3:2, are still the photography standard.
Also 16:9 is horrible for portrait shots. A 4:3 or 3:2 ratio will look good on any device, but imagine a portrait shot in 16:9 on a widescreen monitor; it would be horrible.
If you want wider shots, that's why you have panorama mode.
Well Mr. "Experienced Photographer", go put up a portrait 16:9 image on widescreen monitor. Tell me how it goes for you. If anything, 4:3 is more optimal for sharing on a widescreen monitor cause either orientation is going to maximize available screen space.
There's a reason why we call it "Vertical Video Syndrome" buddy.
Panasonic's LX camera series always offered several aspect ratios, one of which was very wide. They were all useable files capable of clean enlargement and with reasonable detail.
Um a portrait shot would not be 16:9 cause that's widescreen not "tallscreen". lol As I've been saying all along 16:9 for landscape shots should be an option. I don't need it to be the default.
If you don't want it to be the default, take your arguments to Oskar Barnack (he's long dead by the way), who chose it as the format to use in Leica cameras in the early 20th century. This aspect ratio has been in use as the standard for 35mm cameras ever since
The exact reasons why Oskar Barnack chose this aspect ratio is because it closely matches the dimensions of the golden rectangle.
The aspect ratio difference between 16:9 and phi (not to be confused with Phi. phi is the conjugate of Phi, so phi = 1/Phi = 1.618) is larger compared to the difference between phi and 3:2. There's a reason why 3:2 is the industry standard.
Besides, 3:2 has the best compatibility with displays of different aspect ratios in general - i.e. they'd display nicer than other aspect ratios on displays that don't match the image's aspect ratio. For instance, a 3:2 image looks nicer on a 16:10 display than a 16:9 image on the same 16:10 display. Similarly, a 3:2 image looks nicer on a 4:3 display than a 16:9 image on the 4:3 display.
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No one is arguing in support of 9:16 portrait photographs. No one is saying 3:2 is not a valid or preferred all-purpose ratio. Or 4:3. I never take square photos, but I'm not trying to tell people that take them they are second rate photographers or people. I'm saying photos should be taken with an eye toward the medium on which they will be displayed. And there's an awful lot of people that view their photos on widescreen monitors exclusively. It's inexplicable that Apple doesn't offer this option when it would benefit so many people and it appears to support the Apple philosophy to converge computers and entertainment into one seamless experience.
So then make it a pain for the user to constantly switch between the two modes?
Most users just want a picture. The iOS camera isn't designed to be for pro photographers.
Plus, like I said, when you need to get those larger shots, you have panorama mode.
The benefits of 16:9 are less than any other. It's not optimal for sharing.