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Wife hates her iPhone 5S for business
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In what way is it on the way out? Because apple doesn't subscribe to a file manager? Come on...it's not intuitive to go app to app and attach your files. On every other platform this is easily achieved through file management.
Not having a file system is just another way of thinking. It's quite refreshing not to search through layers of folders for things. Intuitive and second nature are cousins. The operating system on the macs are not intuitive to me( others would say much different.
You must not attach multiple kinds of files very often...refreshing is certainly not how I would describe it. You don't like scrolling through folders? Fine. Implement an attachment method that allows you to directly attach files that are "owned" by an app other than the photos app.
Insert attachment ---> pages --> find document
This methodology would at least confine you to the email app. How does it make sense that when I'm writing an email I have to go to a different app to attach something? It doesn't.
You are correct in the year I had the iphone I never had the requirement to combine multiple disparate documents onto one email that was forwarded from a previous email. Although I can appreciate what you are saying, this "limitation" is a non-issue for me.
It's on the way out because mobile device engineers have decided that documents should belong to apps rather than file belonging to folders. Open an an app, you documents should just be there.
Some articles that touch on this philosophy:
http://www.macworld.com/article/203...ystem-skating-to-where-the-puck-might-go.html
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/06/05/opinion-ios-file-system/
http://gizmodo.com/5848834/icloud-i...&utm_campaign=AppleInvestor_Newsletter_101411
...it's a philosophy for making computing more intuitive. Unfortunately for your wife (and for folks Of A Certain Age like me), we're used to doing this the file-and-folder way.
Wonder if Apple will just end up buying them (vs. trying to create all of this awesomeness themselves)?!
Acompli has great App Store reviews ... 4.5 out of 5. wow!
Too late Microsoft have already bought the,m
So it's refreshing to be barred from accessing your data? To me it can be amazingly infuriating.
I find the lack of a file system to be more frustrating, Dropbox and OneDrive get around this somewhat but its a work around and things would be more seamless if apple decided to expose the file system.
She loves it! it has saved her from selling her brand new iPhone 5S 32GB at a loss and getting a BlackBerry Classic. BlackBerry is great for work. it can do all she wants about easily attaching files as all the attachments are listed in the hub, but then again, it sucks as a phone, the worst apps ever, Android apps that do run, run at a weird resolution and often you would get stuff that you cant type in such as login / password fields, it's just wrong and it wasn't meant for BlackBerry, and there's no Viber, Skype sucks on it, the Twitter app is a joke, it's useless for anything but business communication! (this is coming from a 7 year old BlackBerry fanboy but I finally gave up on this company, it's going no where in terms of advancement)
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I cannot thank you enough for finding this hidden gem! When I posted what my wife wants to do, I was surprised about people telling me it's a phone not a PC! well this is a very simple feature and shouldn't require a PC to enable you to easily attach any file from your iPhone be it in an email, or better yet on one of your cloud apps like OneDrive or Dropbox! I guess people who said that probably haven't ever used another phone to know how easy this process should be rather than manually copy/pasting each attachment from separate emailsYou are very welcome. Mail has always been a pain point for me too. Acomplii made life a lot easier for me. Really a great app
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you should try it man, it's similar to our beloved BB Hub but on the iPhone and a bit improved as it can even grab files from your cloud services such as OneDrive or Dropbox. very convenient when trying to send clients files that are located in various places
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Ditto! I was shocked to learn that iOS with all its glory doesn't have such a simple and basic feature! As an OS, I thought it was very intuitive and easy to use, not for this purpose of attaching files and sending them in a single email!
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The thing is, my wife works as a real estate agent, so often, she receives floor plans for multiple units, in different emails, so when she wants to send them to a client, she has to grab them all at once and send them in one email
Good to hear that Acompli is working for her.
I don't care much about attachments myself, but I use an app to store individual files on my iPhone (Panic's Transmit). I'm not going to argue that Apple should have this built-in, because at the end of the day they're probably never going to give us a solution that is as good as what's in Finder.
Smartphones are an extension to a computer. I have no problem churning out writing in Drafts, e-mails, and whatever. It's nice that I can do it wherever and whenever. Laptops are great, but I don't want to be using one when I'm in a bus or car for a few hours.
I don't care much about attachments myself, but I use an app to store individual files on my iPhone (Panic's Transmit). I'm not going to argue that Apple should have this built-in, because at the end of the day they're probably never going to give us a solution that is as good as what's in Finder.
Smartphones are an extension to a computer. I have no problem churning out writing in Drafts, e-mails, and whatever. It's nice that I can do it wherever and whenever. Laptops are great, but I don't want to be using one when I'm in a bus or car for a few hours.
With respect to the bolded, apple does not want to do this as it would defeat the purpose of apps handling the files. Maybe at some point in time in the future this may change...or they may update the functionality of the native email client to match Outlook.
Ditto for my wife. She sends one email per attachment (from her iphone). Most of the recipients have iphones so they know this same limitation; it's never an issue.
I'm happy to see you present a thoughtful explantation to this side of the argument. Its tiring seeing people just say that only one way of doing things is correct, and other points of view are just stupid (like some of whom you were responding to).
For as much as some people might be annoyed at having to learn to go to the file/photo/document that they want first, and then send it to someone... which does take a little change in thought process (but you get used to it quickly).... i find this far far far less annoying than having to navigate a file system for everything you do. Such as after using an application you installed and now want to delete... and you have to navigate to all the locations that it may have installed files so that you can delete them. iOS is nice in that there is none of this worry. I personally like this new approach.
It's also worth remembering that computer tech is so in its infancy still. Not been around that long. And pretty much everything we do on them was dictated by only a couple choices/ways of doing things for the entirety of this time... and those couple ways of doing things did not change much at all for this short period of time. And to think that there could not possibly exist any alternative way of doing things that might work better is naive.
I just tried Acompli and it's amazing. Game changer for me.
Finally an app that separates important emails, kinda like non-mobile gmail.
And it does attachments beautifully. 6+ updated too which is a plus.
Finally an app that separates important emails, kinda like non-mobile gmail.
And it does attachments beautifully. 6+ updated too which is a plus.
Keep in mind that Accompli is not just a client on your mobile device, it will actually store your emails and user credentials on their servers to catalog the data. This may be in violation of company policies, etc.
While it is "better" that Microsoft now owns them, it still is a potential security/intellectual property risk. You are trusting them to do what they state here: https://www.acompli.com/security/
While it is "better" that Microsoft now owns them, it still is a potential security/intellectual property risk. You are trusting them to do what they state here: https://www.acompli.com/security/
I was looking at Accompli but didn't hit the button. This kind of seals the deal though for me. I don't think any company wants it internal correspondence going all over the map. My stuff, meh.
Riskier than the typical onsite Exchange server? I dunno.
If I were a corporate IT guy I'm sure I'd say "no" to user installs.
Just like Mac OS X, iOS is not the most business friendly system or efficient. I also was a blackberry user and took a while to get used to the crippled mail client on iPhone. For God's sakes it only took Apple like 5 years or more to add "out of office" feature to the mail client - that is ridiculous. Attachment option is also a very poorly implemented and I hope we wont have to wait another 5 years till Apple figures out how to improve it to allow multiple (different kinds) attachments.
Statement is so general as to be a strawman arguement. There are very powerful business tools in iOS more than just email.
sure. dismiss the competitor's feature that is shown to have demand and real life application, just because that specific feature is arbitrarily labelled, by you, as a feature that exclusive to 'laptops'.
great thought
I totally understand the pain points the iOS email client causes. However, that being said, it may be beneficial for your wife to save all those attachments to a different app/cloud storage/etc. so they're easily accessible to resend, rather than "saving" them in multiple old emails. Just a workflow change suggestion that may make life easier. Not meant as a dig. I deal with tons of attachments and MS OneDrive has made life very easy.
Thank you. Actually coincidentally her company is looking at business OneDrive for various reasons.
+1 I also has a BB10 based phone, and never had the need for it to do. Still got one as a secure phone provided.
I guess it is just one of those kind of things an iPhone just doesn't do, just like there are other things that a blackberry doesn't do. If she's used to working in that kind of way from her mobile device then perhaps an iPhone is just not for her. You know sometimes that happens, that doesn't mean it doesn't work for business for everyone else either....