My wife is a BB fan, and last week got the new Torch to replace her Bold, which has been a solid phone. Bottom line is the Torch sucks. The new software is buggy, and the touch screen is horrible. The touch is at times insensitive and at other times hypersensitive. It's light years behind the touch screen of the iphone. It is a solidly built, attractive phone and the keyboard is of course great. After 3 days she is fed up and is returning it and getting an iphone 4. She was hoping the Torch would bring BB up to iphone levels of user interface but not even close.
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Wife is returning her BB Torch for iPhone 4
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she had unrealistic expectations then. The Torch isn't an iPhone nor is it meant to be. And it's hardly surprising that the new OS is buggy. Heck - OS 4.0 is buggy.
But good that she's going to get a phone she prefers vs sticking it out with one she is unhappy with. Ultimately - that's all that matters
Not till they do an overhaul of their OS. Have almost the same situation, but my wife skipped the torch and heading to captivate. Which also shares a few quirks here and there.
President of the company I work for got a Torch yesterday. I was playing around with it this morning and while it is definitely the nicest BB on the market right now, it really just feels inadequate compared to my iPhone (and this is coming from someone who has been an avid BB user until about 6 months ago). Its like you said.....the touch screen on the Torch is so inconsistent that it really just takes away from the user experience. I also have no idea why they are still using a sub-1GHz chip to drive the boat on their flagship device.
My wife and two sons moved from VZ on Moto Droid and HTC Droid Eris because the new OS is very buggy and eating up the battery. I knew the kids wanted iPhones and to move over to AT&T but since my wife got her new iPhone 4 16GB two weeks ago, she has not put the thing down, she uses it more then her iPad at home.
I am not a big fan of Android OS, however if I had to choose one, I would go with the HTC Incredible, seems as close to the ip4 as anything gets.
I am not a big fan of Android OS, however if I had to choose one, I would go with the HTC Incredible, seems as close to the ip4 as anything gets.
Imo, the torch is horrendous looking. iPhone4 and torch are on a table next to each other. I'd be willing to bet on looks alone 9/10 people would go for the ip4. It's truely is a beautifully designed phone compared to anything on the market now hands down.
Those of us that are rational Mac users and live outside of "Apples walled garden of control" are not surprised. Had just a little research been done it's likely the Torch would not have been purchased in the first place. After all at the end of the day, unless one handles huge volumes of email, and is fully committed to a conventional keyboard, RIM has nothing to offer. It's been that way for more than two years now.
The OS is immature so you have to expect some bugs but with that said, I think RIM whiffed on this one. Small screen, low resolution, low pixel depth. Slow processor. Many reviewers complained at the pokey pace the phone operates on. I'm unimpressed with the UI as well. those stick figure icons don't do much for me.
I don't see RIM re-capturing the momentum with this phone or the OS.
I don't see RIM re-capturing the momentum with this phone or the OS.
Doesn't the Torch cost $199 with a mail in rebate? Anyway, I think it was a super smart move to return the BB Torch and get an iPhone 4. First of all the torch uses a 624MHz processor which doesnt even compare to a 1GHz Apple A4 chip used in the iPhone 4. The screen is also low res, and smaller than the iPhone 4. Even if the Torch looks pretty nice, the iPhone 4 is just way better performance wise and design wise in my eyes. My 2 cents.
MY first and only experience with blackberry was the Storm.
I lived, breathed, and bled crackberry.com for 9 months. Just waiting for that next OS to be leaked every fews weeks. Hoping, and praying that this would be the OS that would validate my faith in blackberry, and fill that void for a phone that was enjoyable to use, that I didn't have to spend every friday/sat night trying to tweak to make it just right, but never getting there.
**** that ****. I got the 3G S the day it came out, and have never looked back. I kick myself everyday for not switching over sooner.
You think apple has fan boys? Try bashing RIM over on crackberry and see what happens to ya
I lived, breathed, and bled crackberry.com for 9 months. Just waiting for that next OS to be leaked every fews weeks. Hoping, and praying that this would be the OS that would validate my faith in blackberry, and fill that void for a phone that was enjoyable to use, that I didn't have to spend every friday/sat night trying to tweak to make it just right, but never getting there.
**** that ****. I got the 3G S the day it came out, and have never looked back. I kick myself everyday for not switching over sooner.
You think apple has fan boys? Try bashing RIM over on crackberry and see what happens to ya
I asked some guys over there why they think iPhone 4's camera "isnt as good" as the Torch's as they all were saying, and I got several ridiculous responses that included even my BB 9700 camera blows the iPhone 4's away. I cant help to get a laugh over there sometimes.
I'm sure that you could find someone who holds that their 8320 is far superior to the iPhone 4 over there. Poor deluded schmucks.
Using 3G data on the BB Torch was so slow at the AT&T store, that it was like using EDGE on my iP4. So glad that I moved on to the iPhone now.
Gizmodo is reporting that the Torch is now being sold at half price after one week of bad sales.
Never considered the Torch. It's a slider. Eww.
I would like to see what they plan to do with the Storm 3 though but I have a feeling it'll just be OS 6 slapped on the Torch without the keypad.
I would like to see what they plan to do with the Storm 3 though but I have a feeling it'll just be OS 6 slapped on the Torch without the keypad.
I generally like BB's and have owned several......I played with the Torch at the AT&T store and actually liked it, but did not leave with it because I know I'll miss certain Apps on my Iphone....namely Skype which for some reason is not offered on BB's...
Actually iPhone 4's are readily available. There are four Apple stores in my area with phones in stock. Just walk in and buy one. My brother went to the store closest to us yesterday and was out with his new iPhone in just twenty five minutes.
No problem; As a matter of fact, I walked out of the Apple store last week with two!
Never considered the Torch. It's a slider. Eww.
I would like to see what they plan to do with the Storm 3 though but I have a feeling it'll just be OS 6 slapped on the Torch without the keypad.
I'm not fond of sliders, however the Torch is the exception. I tried it and found it's extremely smooth, solid & well designed. Conversely the problems created from using the slow processor and buggy OS, cancel out the great hardware. I doubt the Torch will survive.
Does anyone else share my opinion that in the near future (within 3-4 years) WebOS will be referred to in the business world as the new Blackberry? HP is in a great position here if they play their cards right. MS is trying too hard to be everything with WM7, it seems.