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There's just no way they will charge us, even with copy/paste (which I doubt is gonna happen. Read the updated MacRumor story)

Yeah, I know they did for the 1.1.4, but that was payment for the addition of applications, not fixing stability issues or adding small features.

They won't charge us for 2.1. I just don't believe that for a second.
 
It all depends on how greedy Jobs feels at the moment. I get the feeling that he despises Touch owners for not buying the highly profitable iPhone instead.

Sorry, but this theory is a bit silly. :p

Steve Jobs is happy for every single sale of every product Apple makes. I don't buy the iPhone being a more profitable product either, maybe more popular. If anything, they profit more from the Touch sales since they don't have to share revenue with AT&T.
 
Steve Jobs is happy for every single sale of every product Apple makes.
I'm not sorry. I'm sure some sales make him happier than others. To believe he is equally pleased with every product sale is naive. I see the gleam in his eye every time he says "Oh yea, the iPod Touch will get the same upgrade but for a small fee.".
 
since it is not firmware 3.0, i would assime, like OSX releases, it would be free to current 2.0 owners
 
I'm not sorry. I'm sure some sales make him happier than others. To believe he is equally pleased with every product sale is naive. I see the gleam in his eye every time he says "Oh yea, the iPod Touch will get the same upgrade but for a small fee.".

Who said you were sorry? I was trying to be polite while pointing out the ridiculousness of your comments. Steve Jobs "despises" people who buy certain of his products and not others??

OK, whatever you say...
 
I doubt Apple would charge for it, there aren't many new features to be added I don't think, it'll be more or less bugs in 2.1 as well as they two features mentioned before I would think. :eek:
 
$19.95 for 1.1.4,

False.

If you had an iPod Touch running software version 1.1.2 or below, and you wanted to migrate to 1.1.3, the upgrade was free. Period. End of story.

Same story for upgrading from any firmware versions 1.1.3 or below to firmware version 1.1.4. And now again for 1.1.5.

Simultaneous to the release of software version 1.1.3, Apple released a "January Software Upgrade", offering new features such as the Mail app.

This was a separate product, and installation occurred as a response to a separate user-initiated action. Installation of the JSU could only occur on an iPod Touch that *already* had firmware version 1.1.3 or above installed.

Of course you can claim those fees were optional and deniable, but to gain the benefit of each update you had to pay the fee, whereas iPhone owners did not.
To which the response is that 1.1.3 and 1.1.4 (and now 1.1.5) included the benefit of bug fixes.

The JSU applications were still separately sold items, which may or may not have been pre-installed at the factory, depending on the vintage of the iPod Touch.

So in summary, you're right in saying that Apple did charge for new features. This was the JSU, which cost $20 (and is akin to installing applications on a computer with an exiting operating system), and firmware version 2.0, which cost $10 (and is akin to a whole new operating system).

You're incorrect in stating that there was any charge for firmware versions 1.1.3 (or 1.1.4, or now 1.1.5) by themselves.
 
If that's the case I would say these "software updates" are a little illegitimate for purchase. They either need to rebrand them as an upgrade or stop charging.

Upgrades (adding new features) > check for upgrades button

Updates (security, etc) > check for updates button (free)

This is a good idea and I think it wouldn't be hard to implement
 
*palm to face*

I can't believe this is still being debated.

APPLE WON'T CHARGE FOR 2.1 OR 2.1.1 OR 2.2 OR EVEN 2.3.
 
*palm to face*

I can't believe this is still being debated.

APPLE WON'T CHARGE FOR 2.1 OR 2.1.1 OR 2.2 OR EVEN 2.3.

They didn't charge for 2.0.1. It was a bugfix-only release. Still waiting to see what happens with 2.1 (the anticipated next "new-feature" release).
 
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