Will anyone miss Tiger?

[VanNess]

Actually, the early Tiger releases (10.4.0 and 10.4.3) have been a lot better than some of the latest versions. Stability-wise...10.4.3

That's not been my experience. 10.4.0 had obvious bugs floating around and the Finder's implementation of Spotlight, performance-wise, was terrible until 10.4.4.

Overall Tiger-related bugs were minor, and most of them were gone as of 10.4.4. But I've never had a problem with stability from 10.3.0 till present (10.4.7). In my experience, apps (mostly third-party) may crash here and there, but OS X has never bitten the dust.

 

[benthewraith]

Tiger is by hands down the best OS I've ever used, better than Windows.

 

[SwitchedBack2XP]

The finder was reason enough for me to return to XP.

Can't wait to see what 10.5 offers, but damn 10.4 has got to go.

I'm thankful Vista will incorporate lots of Tiger features, because spotlight + explorer = heaven for me.

 

[coday182]

Ok excuse me for never owning a mac and only playin with one a few times (which like i said, sold me) but what is wrong with sherlock? It seems like it would be pretty handy actually.

 

[mkrishnan]

Ok excuse me for never owning a mac and only playin with one a few times (which like i said, sold me) but what is wrong with sherlock? It seems like it would be pretty handy actually.

It's a neat idea... I used it for a while when I first got my Mac. it's just abandonware. Apple hasn't put any effort into it in ages. And so a lot of time times, using FF searchplugins or AcidSearch on Safari is much more efficient, because the quality of the results is better, because Apple hasn't done enough work in optimizing the web aspect of Sherlock.... That, and in terms of Apple's arsenal, all the pieces of Sherlock have been replaced by widgets.

 

[SwitchedBack2XP]

when you manipulate as many files as i do a day, that whole not having cut built in is a HUGE not minor but HUGE pain in the ass

 

[whooleytoo]

Ok excuse me for never owning a mac and only playin with one a few times (which like i said, sold me) but what is wrong with sherlock? It seems like it would be pretty handy actually.

There's not a lot really wrong with it, other than Apple not putting much effort into keeping it going. It looked for a while like it might take off as a useful feature, but has pretty much faded away.

Which must be pretty galling - it was 'very similar to' (or 'based on', 'copied from', 'stolen from' depending on your point of view) a previous program, Watson, from Karelia, which is no longer being developed. Must be pretty galling for them to be pretty much walked over by Apple, and then have Apple dump it a few years later. (And a similar situation occurred again recently, with iWeb supplanting the same company's Sandvox).

It's all a bit Microsoft-esque, if you ask me.

 

[rot@ti.org]

System features lost

no the current feature set won't disappear. apple have a tendency to build upon them.

To be fair, Apple's OS lost a lot of features when it went from system 9 to X. Many of those features were restored by 10.2, but some are still missing. This should not be a problem going from 10.4 to 10.5 (Tiger to Leopard).

 

[projectle]

 

[benthewraith]

That graphs slightly inaccurate. Where's Windows 98 SE?

 

[VanNess]

Ok excuse me for never owning a mac and only playin with one a few times (which like i said, sold me) but what is wrong with sherlock? It seems like it would be pretty handy actually.

Count me in as one who will be sad to see Sherlock go and very disappointed that Apple let it die on the vine. Conventional wisdom has it that Dashboard is Sherlock's heir-apparent and/or replacement, and in some cases widgets do replicate some of Sherlock's original functionality.

But Sherlock's channels were (well, are) far more capable than any single widget. The whole concept of aggregating content from, at times, several different sources on the web and condensing it into one simple, single view designed to provide all the info you need on something (best examples, the movie channel, the stock channel, or the currently discontinued yellow page channel) was just insanely great. No need to open a browser or some other application, no tabs, it's all right there in one shot. It's kind of a web 2.0 concept long before anyone was thinking about web 2.0

It seems to me that there could have been a Sherlock 4 which could have further integrated with Tiger features such as Spotlight and core data as well as net sources. Sherlock had lots of unrealized potential and lots of room for growth. And, afaik, there really isn't anything else quite like it out there. During Sherlock 3's heyday, you could demo it to a PC user and the usual response was "wow..."

 

[VanNess]

when you manipulate as many files as i do a day, that whole not having cut built in is a HUGE not minor but HUGE pain in the ass

I find (no pun intended) that the Finder's column view is more beneficial for me when moving/manipulating files, but you can set up an automator action to replicate the Windows cut command and install it in the finder. Forevermore, the "cut" command will be available via the right-click contextual menu.

 

[projectle]

That graphs slightly inaccurate. Where's Windows 98 SE?

Fixed now. Sorry for the inaccuracy. Unfortunately when I was compiling dates from Wikipedia, 98SE was left out of the complete table.

Also, I am working on a comparison to show side by side Mac OS development times VS Windows development Times, however am having a little trouble locating the release dates for System 5 & System 6.

The light green line represents Mac OS development time from System 7 to OS X 10.5 (with an assumed release date of January 1, 2006 for the sake of simplicity).

 

[coday182]

Are you saying that windows vista will be better then leopard or something? not trying to pick a fight, j/w. Do you have a chart like that for the Mac OS release dates?

 

[coday182]

^^NEvermind. I didn't read further down.

 

[coday182]

Wow after reading this thread it almost makes me want to buy a MBP now becasue I may not be missing out on much when leopard is realeased. I could always update it anyways. I am still gonna wait though to see if it gets any bumps or a lower price.