Will Apple make Mac OSXI, or just MacOSX 10.10?

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  1. MacDude21 macrumors regular

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    Considering we're at 10.9 right now, or a beta I think, it brings up a serous question for the future. Will Apple mac an OSXI or just continue with the OSX?
    What would they change? Will we loose our documents if we upgrade? Will it support older macs? Will we be able to run OSX programs, and maybe get a program to run OSXI programs on OSX? Or will we just go 10.10?
     
  2. OllyW Moderator

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    There's no reason for Apple not to use 10.10 and beyond.
     
  3. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    1. Yes and yes.
    2. some things
    3. no
    4. some
    5. yes
    6. yes
     
  4. Moonjumper macrumors 68000

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    Apple would have found another cat name for 10.9 if they were going to change to OS 11. Mavericks probably means sticking with OS X long term.
     
  5. gnasher729 macrumors P6

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    As a precedent, version 10.4.9 was not followed by 10.5.0, but by 10.4.10 and 10.4.11.

    Version 11 will be something totally different. I'd estimate we'll have to wait 20 years or more for that.
     
  6. ApfelKuchen macrumors 68020

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    OS X is a brand, not a version numbering system. If it was a version numbering system, we'd be at OS X.XIII.IV. The naming convention is <brand name> <brand in decimal form>.<major release number>.<interim release number>

    Since there's more than one dot, it's not a decimal number, so no need to follow the rules of arithmetic. What happens between and around the decimal points is up to Apple.

    It was a name coined to mark the return of Steve Jobs, and the adoption of the OS he brought with him from exile - a total change in technology from the original Mac OS. No way they're going to mess with brand identity for anything less.

    We put too much cultural value on 10 as a milestone. There's no reason anything regarding system/software compatibility has to change, just because we've run out of fingers on our two hands. Stuff will change if and when it needs to change.

    Yeah, it was convenient to make "10" a major milestone at Apple - they were at OS 7.7 when Steve returned. A transitional version of Mac OS was needed as part of the conversion to the new OS, so there was at least going to be OS 8 prior to the new OS. So… they re-named OS 7.7 and released it as 8.0, making the transitional version OS 9. Neat and clean. Let's face it, OS IX is not a strong brand name. If only they'd known, perhaps they would have released it as… OS iX
     
  7. A Hebrew macrumors 6502a

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    I think they will keep using OS X 10.* until they make iOS the standard across all devices (A changed iOS that is...not the current...yet). When they finally merge the two OSes it will simply be called iOS * or some fancy new trendy name.
     
  8. phoenixsan macrumors 65816

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    Would be interesting.....

    to see what naming/code naming scheme Apple uses when the moment comes. Currently, they had changed the big cats for famous beaches...:D....We have to wait and see if "Mavericks" is the final name of 10.9, instead of "Tiger Shark", "Sea Lion" or "Ocelot".......:eek:....;)......:D.....


    :):apple:
     
  9. cube macrumors G5

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    Not OS XI, when Macs get ARM cores, Mac OS X and iOS will be merged in iOS X.
     
  10. Sky Blue Guest

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    Yup. 'OS X' is a brand. Take a look at Apple's OS X pages:

    http://www.apple.com/osx/

    Nowhere does '10.x' appear, its only OS X Mountain Lion or Mavericks.

    Next version will be referred to as OS X [California Place]
     
  11. gnasher729 macrumors P6

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    If you look at the reception of Windows 8, that isn't likely to happen, unless Apple fires Tim Cook and hires Ballmer instead :D
     
  12. A Hebrew macrumors 6502a

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    Windows 8 was a very bold, futuristic move by Microsoft. Instead of easing into the future like Apple is doing they went all in. People who say Wndows 8 sucks usually do not give it a fair chance, 3 days using it will make you very productive.

    I stand by what my earlier post says based on the fact Apple is gradually making both OSes the same.
     
  13. pdjudd macrumors 601

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    Hasn't Apple given indications that they are doing the exact opposite?
     
  14. ApfelKuchen macrumors 68020

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    Will their products have more and more software features in common? Yes. If they aid seamless interoperability without detracting from capability. It's the ecosystem, baby! However, the operating environments for mobile and desktop are sufficiently different, and the demands placed on the devices are such, that there's little reason to make a one-size-fits-all OS. They'd still have to optimize the "common" OS for each kind of device it runs on.

    Neither iOS nor OS X are the key selling points for iPhones or iMacs. Consumers don't buy "a device that runs iOS," or "a computer that runs OS X," the way that other smart phone and computer users look for "Android" or "Windows." The Android and Windows brands promise a reasonably consistent experience, regardless of who manufactures the device - the common ground upon which consumers can cross brand lines in search of a particular feature or price point. "At least I don't have to learn a different OS!" Since there are so many competing manufacturers, that's a very important distinction to make.

    In the consumer mind, the over-arching brand name is Apple, not iOS, not OS X. "Apple" promises a quality of user experience that crosses all product lines. It's very similar to the identity of IBM until the advent of the PC. Businesses committed to IBM. IBM computers, typewriters, software, services… it was a package. "Nobody ever got fired for buying Big Blue." IBM tried to kill Apple and the other personal computer makers by adopting open standards, and ended up losing the "IBM-compatible" business altogether. Apple has far surpassed IBM, using IBM's old, closed-systems playbook from day one.

    Both OS X and iOS are based on Unix, so you could say they've been "merged" since the very beginning. Why not leave it at that?
     
  15. Shinerkyd macrumors newbie

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    I have asked that very same question with many people clearly stating that No, Apple will never go past OS X, but why?

    Couple reasons for and against. OS X is no longer about being "OS 10," OS X is now a brand name of sorts that reflects Apple's Mac operating system like Windows # or name says it's Microsoft.

    OS X desktop version first came to be in March 2001 and has since evolved into what we know today as Mountain Lion and Mavericks instead of numerical names somewhat like Windows.

    Will Apple ever move past OS X? I think it naive and foolish to think they won't. I mean every company evolves over time, and sometimes that means renaming some of their products. Though as for the time being it doesn't seem that OS XI will hit shelves in the NEAR future.

    OS XI would mean a complete and very dramatic overhaul to the current operating system, which I believe is coming and probably sooner than some may suspect with the ever increasing need to be able to do various tasks that were once reserved to a desktop now on the go.

    Just an assumption, but I think that OS XI or whatever they name it will be a ground breaking OS that almost seamlessly takes the desktop OS and iOS and makes them work together like we have never seen before.

    As of October 2013 mobile devices don't have the same capabilities as a desktop, but technology is moving faster than a speeding bullet and the time will come when the two platforms work in perfect unity and that is where I think OS XI comes into play. A radical new OS that can take the ever changing technology of tomorrow and make it today (today being in a couple years or whenever it hits shelves.)
     
  16. djtech42 macrumors 65816

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    OS X 10.10 with some UI changes. Probably won't be as drastic as iOS 7 though.
     
  17. pdjudd macrumors 601

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    Given that version numbers are not decimals, there is no way that we can say one way or another outside of the fact that OSX is branding and Apple has no reason to abandon a good brand without good reason. They have no obligation to move to OS11 after 10.9, so why would they.

    I even believe that Apple has been on the record saying that OSX was going to last them at least 30 years.

    All that tells me that unless there is some driving reason to change their branding strategy, they will go with 10.10 and keep the California name theme that they seem to not want to change it (otherwise, why use it at 10.9?). Honestly, if they want to change the OS, they would have used the California theme for OS 11.
     

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