Will Apple Music Get AI Playlists in iOS 27?

[TumbleDryer]

I don't want AI playlists! I don't even want the multitude of additional sorting options Apple forces on the sidebar. I just want to see MY playlists. I click on it I can see MY songs. That's it. Music app / iTunes was perfect with version 1. Clear and easy to use and it's just got ever more complicated to just find a song and play it.

I only use Apple Music to sync it to my phone so I can play it in the car via car play. I cannot stand what the app has become, it and Photos are the worst apps Apple have made in my 30 years of using Apple stuff. iTunes and iPhoto version 1 were perfect. Super simple to use. Now I open either Music or Photos and Im bombarded with stuff the Apple thinks I want to see/hear then have to fight with the horrendous UI to get to what I want. I don't subscribe to any music services, everything has been ripped but somehow Apple still manages to take control.

 

[bluecoast]

Spotify does this. It’s not very good and I never use this.

Its recommendations engine is far better.

However, Apple Music’s ‘knowledge graph/recommendations engine’ isn’t as good as Spotify’s,

So given Apple’s terrible track record in implementing AI….

…plus an okish recommendations engine to power this…

I’d expect AI playlists in AM to be worse than Spotify’s - which aren’t very good.

So no thanks.

 

[cjsuk]

The recommendations engine for Apple Music already classifies as AI as in it's a statistical model that is used to infer the user's preferences and suggest other things similar.

I'm thoroughly convinced many people have no idea what the hell AI is.

 

[abracadaver]

How much of it would be AI and not just driven by like... internal tags on the songs? If they had a chat-based AI feature and I just type "make a playlist of trip hop deep cuts I haven't heard" - does it really need AI? It could just look at genre, overall play count, and then my play count of those songs and filter it that way right? I'm no computer programmer but with something as "classifiable" as music, it seems like there's an easier way vs shoveling a trendy buzzword feature.

 

[Slix]

Every music streaming service keeps trying to make a new way to do iTunes Genius Playlists that Apple themselves introduced in 2008.

 

[bradman83]

How do you make a playlist for songs that fit agressive driving?

 

[Luftkopf]

How do you make a playslist containing every single feature from X artist?

Why would I want to? Research, I guess, but I haven't needed to do that for 15 years.

How do you make a playlist for songs that fit agressive driving?

Manually, like I always have.

How do you make a playlist for running that's ONLY hip-hop ?

Again, manually. I actually enjoy sifting through my large music library when I make a playlist for a specific purpose, curating my music for the purpose, finding an album to evaluate whether a particular song fits the desired vibe. Why would I let a machine do a crappy, soulless job of something I enjoy doing myself?

 

[cgs1xx]

I wish it were possible to switch off all this curated junk and playlists on apple music. I want to enjoy my library primarily. Put everything else in a single tab and leave it there for those who want it!

 

[Genelec8341]

before wasting time with that, can we at least get something incredibly basic and useful like a system wide real 10 band equalizer (not useless presets) that remembers settings for each bluetooth device?!

That would be awesome! = Never gonna happen 🤣

 

[ErikGrim]

You can do this right now by adding Apple Music as an app in ChatGPT. You can even have it roast your listening habits just like Spotify can.

 

[attila]

Growing in popularity or just forced into more services so fake demand?

 

[TumbleDryer]

In the year 2525
If AI is still alive
if Apple can survive
You may find:

Siri,
Make me feel nostalgic
Rewind clock by 500 years
Fit playlist to mood and time

Siri in 2525 - "Sorry I can't do that"

 

[npmacuser5]

Welcome to Apple systems:

 

[Arran]

Agree, most streaming services have an interface that is completely dominated by suggestions and automated playlists. To build a collection you will have to think offline.

Have you found any simple offline music player Apps for iOS? I own a large collection of CDs I losslessly ripped into iTunes over the years and I’d like to store them locally on my iPhone. All I want is a clean UI to pick an album to play in the car without any hassle. Don’t care about creating playlists: A whole album is a ready-made (and well-made) playlist in my book.

I don’t want the app integrated in ANY way with Apple Music. Any ideas?

 

[knappeduivel]

Have you found any simple offline music player Apps for iOS?

Sadly not. I have found no good alternative for the Apple Music app to put my local audiofiles on my iPhone.

 

[applefan8254]

I like to walk to the beat of the music but what you propose seems the opposite: the music beats to the speed of your walk. Why not make a smart playlist that filters the music to accommodate your general walking speed?

Yes, that is a good idea. I just figured, to give the customer a bit more control, they could be able to walk at a specific beat to a song, even if the default tempo of the song isn't exactly as slow or fast as they would prefer. It seems doable because there have been apps over the past decade that are able to adjust playback speed of music. This would just be integrated that function into a streaming platform so the ability could be used on 40 million songs (or at least the playlists that are downloaded) instead of just the couple thousand we used to sync from our computer, but I would think that most use streaming platforms first and foremost, so we can hear anything we want and discover new music on the go, as opposed to syncing from our computer.

 

[knappeduivel]

Yes, that is a good idea. I just figured, to give the customer a bit more control, they could be able to walk at a specific beat to a song, even if the default tempo of the song isn't exactly as slow or fast as they would prefer. It seems doable because there have been apps over the past decade that are able to adjust playback speed of music. This would just be integrated that function into a streaming platform so the ability could be used on 40 million songs (or at least the playlists that are downloaded) instead of just the couple thousand we used to sync from our computer, but I would think that most use streaming platforms first and foremost, so we can hear anything we want and discover new music on the go, as opposed to syncing from our computer.

Frankly I struggle to grap the logic of your post. English is not my native language.

I spend about an hour a day walking, always with music. I would never adjust the pitch to my comfort, instead I adjust my tredspeed to the music if it is close enough.

 

[applefan8254]

Frankly I struggle to grap the logic of your post. English is not my native language.

I spend about an hour a day walking, always with music. I would never adjust the pitch to my comfort, instead I adjust my tredspeed to the music if it is close enough.

The logic is that we could control the playback speed of any song. Not the pitch, just the speed. (Old tapes/vinyl records used to have a higher pitch when speed was increased but with digital, the pitch can remain the same even when playing faster or slower)

for example, if we have a or playlist of songs at 105bpm, but we are walking at 115bpm, it could be nice to change the song/playlist to 115bpm so that it would match our walking speed.

Kind of like dancing to the beat of music, but walking instead.

 

[Luftkopf]

The logic is that we could control the playback speed of any song. Not the pitch, just the speed. (Old tapes/vinyl records used to have a higher pitch when speed was increased but with digital, the pitch can remain the same even when playing faster or slower)

for example, if we have a or playlist of songs at 105bpm, but we are walking at 115bpm, it could be nice to change the song/playlist to 115bpm so that it would match our walking speed.

Kind of like dancing to the beat of music, but walking instead.

I understand the idea, but I don’t get why.

 

[applefan8254]

I understand the idea, but I don’t get why.

For enjoyment. It's enjoyable to walk to the beat of the music, just like it is to dance to the beat of music. When your walking pace matches the bpm of a song, it feels like dancing, albeit a light cardio exercise version of dancing, but I find walking more sustainable long term than dancing.

 

[Luftkopf]

For enjoyment. It's enjoyable to walk to the beat of the music, just like it is to dance to the beat of music. When your walking pace matches the bpm of a song, it feels like dancing, albeit a light cardio exercise version of dancing, but I find walking more sustainable long term than dancing.

I get that, but I’d rather have a way of choosing music by its tempo to make an appropriate playlist than to interfere with my music to force it to fit.

 

[applefan8254]

I get that, but I’d rather have a way of choosing music by its tempo to make an appropriate playlist than to interfere with my music to force it to fit.

It doesn't interfere with your music in any way. Also, the idea of choosing music by its tempo to make an appropriate playlist is a feature that already exists. It's a good feature. The ability to slow down or speed up a song doesn't interfere in anyway, and it's a completely optional feature that one can just forget about if they don't want it. It's just an option for those who want it. Not mandatory at all.

 

[Luftkopf]

It doesn't interfere with your music in any way. Also, the idea of choosing music by its tempo to make an appropriate playlist is a feature that already exists. It's a good feature. The ability to slow down or speed up a song doesn't interfere in anyway, and it's a completely optional feature that one can just forget about if they don't want it. It's just an option for those who want it. Not mandatory at all.

I mean, I'm not saying you shouldn't have this feature, but to me artificially altering the tempo of my music is interference, and I do not want it.

 

[01cowherd]

Instead I think we’ll probably see a subtle shift away from the notion of a personal collection and towards the concept of ‘everything’ being in our library with AI selecting and serving up music on our behalf.

Isn't that already how it works with music streaming? Huge catalog with a tailored playlist every week, and it keeps playing other songs when your own playlist/album finishes playing.

 

[applefan8254]

I mean, I'm not saying you shouldn't have this feature, but to me artificially altering the tempo of my music is interference, and I do not want it.

I'm a bit confused regarding your aversion to a motivational health and fitness feature that many people would enjoy. Even if some people don't use it (like yourself), it would still benefit all the people who do. To sort of be like, "negative" about a feature like this to make exercise more enjoyable/fun/dance-like confuses me a bit. Like if something negatively affects you, I could maybe understand your negativity. So I guess my question might be something to the effect of "how would this feature negatively impact you?".