Will Apple Music kill off Pandora and Spotify?

Discussion in 'Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, Apple Services' started by applefanboy4, Jun 8, 2015.

  1. applefanboy4 macrumors regular

    Apr 9, 2015
    Is this the end of Pandora and Spotify? It seems like everyone has one of these two, or both on all their devices. With Apple Music, will people ditch Pandora and Spotify and just use Apple Music?
  2. WhySoSerious macrumors 65816


    Jun 30, 2007
    Dallas, TX
  3. King Shady macrumors 6502

    King Shady

    Aug 22, 2010
    Princeton, NJ
    I doubt they can "kill off" Pandora or Spotify. But I guarantee you that a large user base will be transferring over to Apple Music from either Pandora or Spotify when it launches. Apple Music is a big deal and they're really promoting it.
  4. Menel macrumors 603


    Aug 4, 2011
    I barely even recall what those things are you speak of. Been long dead :rolleyes:
    I think Ping and iTunes Radio killed them.
  5. Greg. macrumors 6502


    Sep 12, 2010
    London, UK
    The Beats headphones crowd might switch, others not so much.
  6. Steve121178 macrumors 601


    Apr 13, 2010
    Bedfordshire, UK
    Of course not.
  7. E3BK macrumors 68030


    Mar 15, 2008
    I think those two will be fine but the subscriber base might get a little smaller. But I think Apple Music is pulling the life support that Tidal has been on.
  8. freemini macrumors regular


    Aug 29, 2009
  9. VSMacOne macrumors 601


    Oct 18, 2008
    If Apple Music ever puts a dent in Spotify and Pandora it will probably take a year or so. Never say never... Look at Google Maps on iOS: 3.5x more Apple Maps usage. Who would've thought that a few years ago?
  10. Samtb, Jun 8, 2015
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2015

    Samtb macrumors 65816

    Jan 6, 2013
    No way. Most Spotify users use the free version and there's no way the average consumer will start paying. Not in the uk anyway, U.S. Might be different.
  11. SHNXX macrumors 68000

    Oct 2, 2013
    I've never used these streaming services.

    Will the apple music have Asian songs?
  12. bushido Suspended


    Mar 26, 2008
    no, Spotify traffic isnt part of my data allowance on T-Mobile DE so that will keep me using it
  13. Goldfrapp macrumors 601


    Jul 31, 2005
    I doubt. A giant like Google did absolutely nothing to Spotify with Google Music. I doubt Apple will either.
  14. Geewhizz macrumors member


    Mar 16, 2014
  15. marvz macrumors 6502a


    Aug 27, 2012
    Wasn't about to switch since I get Spotify Premium for 5€ a month as a student.
    But with Apple Music's family plan I will make the switch and will be paying under 5€.
  16. nafizur macrumors regular

    Jun 11, 2012
    i think streaming music services are bogus overall. Here in Canada, we don't have unlimited Data, so when we are on the go, we can't stream as much as we want due to limited data.

    So basically, i'll have to buy the song i like to listening to it AND pay $10 monthly for the streaming.. nope, not happening.
  17. SpasticPat macrumors 6502


    Sep 15, 2011
    Apollo, Pa
    Well I got a free year of Pandora One from a Fiat contest so I'll stick with that until that expires and use the 3 months free of Apple Music, but otherwise, I've never paid for a streaming music service. I own most of the music I listen to.
  18. Razeus macrumors 603

    Jul 11, 2008
    To be fair, Google doesn't seem to market Google Music very much. I think it's just one of those have it just to have it things for them.
  19. AdonisSMU macrumors 603

    Oct 23, 2010

    Apple music pays less in royalties than Spotify.
  20. joealanjones macrumors regular

    Oct 9, 2009
    Excluding the labels that have already made deals which is presumably a lot of them.

    And as far as I'm aware, royalties are far lower from plays from those on the free Spotify tier. Which is the majority.
  21. AdonisSMU macrumors 603

    Oct 23, 2010
  22. motulist macrumors 601


    Dec 2, 2003
    I wouldn't say "kill off", but I do think it'll significantly reduce their marketshare, either by a significant number of people migrating from the existing services, and/or by Apple significantly expanding the size of the market by getting significant amounts of people who've never paid for a streaming service to now start using Apple's music service.

    Speaking from firsthand experience I can tell you that I just cancelled my Pandora subscription. I did this partially due to the hope and expectation that Apple's service is gonna be great, but to a much larger degree I did it because I started using Pandora like 8 years ago when it was the only game in town, but over these past 8 years pandora hasn't improved at all, while all these new services popped up that are a good or better. I realized that I was still paying pandora 5 bucks a month but I was never using pandora. So Apple's announcement of their new service was enough of a stimulus to get me to finally cancel my pandora subscription.

    In the meantime I've been using Amazon Prime Music. It has a *very* small selection of music, which is a HUGE negative, but I get to use it for free because my folks pay for prime only for the shipping so I get to use the included digital services for free, and that's a HUGE positive.

    But even with Amazon Music being free for me, if Apple's service turns out as good as it looks like it's gonna be then I'm gonna dump my free Amazon Music and start paying for Apple's Music service.
  23. Sheza macrumors 68000


    Aug 14, 2010
    Cambridge, UK
    I would easily switch if Apple did the 50% student discount that Spotify does. Until then, the access to slightly more music and that radio station are not enough for me to justify spending twice as much money per month.
  24. placidity44 macrumors 6502


    May 20, 2015
    I'm pretty sure i'll make the transition with what Apple had shown Don't have any music on any of my devices just Spotify. Everything I listen to except the Beatles is on Spotify. I have a 10GB data plan and stream a ton of spotify, but when i'm home i'm always on wi-fi. Rarely use over 3GB. Love spotify but the integration will be one less app I need on my phone and instead of paying 9.99 a month for myself i'll buy the 14.99 tier so a couple family members will have it as well. With access to the music Apple has and the integration and radio and siri commands i'll probably switch and be very happy. Lucky for me we get a free 3 month trial so that's plenty of time to decide. I certainly don't think Spotify or Pandora will be killed off but I do believe within a year or two that Apple will have a firm grip on them. Very smart business decision for them. They really widened their market by making an app for android and windows while maintaining their tight integration of hardware and software.
  25. nfl46 macrumors 604

    Oct 5, 2008
    Lol, doubtful! I'll be canceling my Spotify subscription, though.

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