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What really worries me, and I suspect cannot be fixed, is that some of these "scare/sheep" thread posters may have jobs with responsibilities.
 
I'd be curious to see what article you're referring to. Consumer Reports says it does get hot.

consumer reports also say not too hot to touch.

why is the temperature of the iPad 2 even the standard to compare to?

The question is simply, does it get too hot to be useful or comfortable? None of the qualified reports say that.
 
My 4S runs warmer than my new iPad. Definitely moreso when I have a metal back on. I don't get the fuss. If its not overheating and doesn't lock up, who cares?
 
Just wondering what you think?


Not saying it is even an issue but noticed quite a few articles seem to be out today saying how the new iPad gets much hotter than the previous ones.


Do you guys think Apple might address this somehow with future shipments or software updates, if it is possible?

:apple:

it will get fixed by a software update when the laws of physics change. higher power consumption = higher heat output. the only possible software update would be to throttle the thing down so its slower. Then see how many people scream.

Its not to hot to be useful. Apple nailed the compromise perfectly.
 
Do you guys think Apple might address this somehow with future shipments or software updates, if it is possible?

:apple:

Yip, they've already addressed it. It's called an iPad 2. No going back now. The higher specced these devices become the more heat they going to generate, law of diminishing returns, no way around it...
 
You mean it cant be fixed. You're in no position to suggest its not a problem.
No, I mean what I said -- there's nothing to be fixed. There's nothing wrong with the iPad being very warm. As Apple said, the temperatures are well within the thermal design for the iPad.
 
It definitely does get pretty warm when in use. And I think it matters to people because they're holding it in their hands usually so the heat is really felt first hand (heh). Whereas if this was say hearing up on a laptop or something wer not directly constantly touching the back of a laptop the whole time.

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Also I can imagine this becoming a bigger problem in the summer heat. Imagine then.
 
It definitely does get pretty warm when in use. And I think it matters to people because they're holding it in their hands usually so the heat is really felt first hand (heh). Whereas if this was say hearing up on a laptop or something wer not directly constantly touching the back of a laptop the whole time.

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Also I can imagine this becoming a bigger problem in the summer heat. Imagine then.

Testing has shown that the new iPad gets about 7-8 degrees warmer than the iPad2 - definitely not hot enough for concern from Apple, and definitely not hot enough to burn you. Even then, they were keeping the iPad plugged in and playing Infinity Blade II for 45 min or more, which is definitely NOT a normal use case. Furthermore, the summer heat will not affect these iPads unless they're left in the sun (or a car) to bake.
 
Just wondering what you think?


Not saying it is even an issue but noticed quite a few articles seem to be out today saying how the new iPad gets much hotter than the previous ones.


Do you guys think Apple might address this somehow with future shipments or software updates, if it is possible?

:apple:

Definitely. It's going to be called iPad 4th gen. :p
 
Just wondering what you think?


Not saying it is even an issue but noticed quite a few articles seem to be out today saying how the new iPad gets much hotter than the previous ones.


Do you guys think Apple might address this somehow with future shipments or software updates, if it is possible?

:apple:
I think folks like CNET and other tech sites (who are acting more like Moodys and S & P giving out AAA ratings to junk sub-prime derivatives) should be ashamed of themselves. Trying to defend the fact that they were not on this sooner and now testing and comparing this device to laptops in terms of temps (even Apple stopped referring to laptops as laptops some time ago because of heat) is ridiculous. This is a handheld tablet. Totally different usage and ergonomics.
I went to 4 Apple resellers today in Prague, where the device just launched. I examined at least 10 different new Ipads and most of them were warm to bordering on hot in the left hand bottom corner. I would not want to hold this for extended lengths of time either in portrait or landscape, unless using it in landscape from the opposite side of the warm/hot corner. It's disturbing even when just warm for me because it feels so uneven compared to the other hand. Out of balance.
I own a great many Apple products. They are far and away the best. My beef is less with Apple, who I am confident will get this solved. But all of the tech sites who are supposed to be neutral guides and be in the know and advise the public have not only dropped the ball, but are behaving like interested parties here. That you need to go to forums to learn what's going on says it all.
Thanks.
 
Just wondering what you think?


Not saying it is even an issue but noticed quite a few articles seem to be out today saying how the new iPad gets much hotter than the previous ones.


Do you guys think Apple might address this somehow with future shipments or software updates, if it is possible?

:apple:

What Apple should do is give a basic test for intelligence before someone can purchase a iPad. :eek:
 
No, I mean what I said -- there's nothing to be fixed. There's nothing wrong with the iPad being very warm. As Apple said, the temperatures are well within the thermal design for the iPad.

Thats a silly argument. Who cares if Apple says its operating normally. If it hit 200 degrees and Apple said its fine, would that mean it is?

People and not comfortable with the heat to the point they're complaining. Just cause you dont think its an issue does not mean it is not an issue for others.

Its clear its not a problem for many of you but respect the fact that it is a problem for others.

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I think folks like CNET and other tech sites (who are acting more like Moodys and S & P giving out AAA ratings to junk sub-prime derivatives) should be ashamed of themselves. Trying to defend the fact that they were not on this sooner and now testing and comparing this device to laptops in terms of temps (even Apple stopped referring to laptops as laptops some time ago because of heat) is ridiculous. This is a handheld tablet. Totally different usage and ergonomics.
I went to 4 Apple resellers today in Prague, where the device just launched. I examined at least 10 different new Ipads and most of them were warm to bordering on hot in the left hand bottom corner. I would not want to hold this for extended lengths of time either in portrait or landscape, unless using it in landscape from the opposite side of the warm/hot corner. It's disturbing even when just warm for me because it feels so uneven compared to the other hand. Out of balance.
I own a great many Apple products. They are far and away the best. My beef is less with Apple, who I am confident will get this solved. But all of the tech sites who are supposed to be neutral guides and be in the know and advise the public have not only dropped the ball, but are behaving like interested parties here. That you need to go to forums to learn what's going on says it all.
Thanks.

Great point.
 
The only way to solve the "issue" is to return the thing.

More transistors + high resolution LCD = more heat.

There is no way to change that. If you want faster devices having more heat being dissipated is the trade off.
 
You keep reading consumer reports. That'll do you a lot of good with your future purchases.

Yep. It sure did with the washer dryer we bought that afterwards we decided we were no impressed with. Than the next year CR decided instead of a best for your money that they couldn't recomend it (same washer dryer).

You are better off reading Amazon and epinion reviews honestly. CR is worthless.
 
I hope they solve this overheating issue asap, I can now use my ipad to heat up my coffee in the morning.
 
Thats a silly argument. Who cares if Apple says its operating normally. If it hit 200 degrees and Apple said its fine, would that mean it is?

People and not comfortable with the heat to the point they're complaining. Just cause you dont think its an issue does not mean it is not an issue for others.

Its clear its not a problem for many of you but respect the fact that it is a problem for others.
I was never saying that anyone should just put up with it if they don't like it, I'm just saying Apple's said it's within thermal specifications, which means it isn't going to damage the hardware. It's not a "fault", and it's not fixable.

If someone finds it uncomfortable they can just return it.
 
The definition war couldn't be demonstrated more clearly

you mean something like a heat sink on the chip maybe that dissipates the heat into some sort of metal casing on the device...

oh wait thats what it does do, thats the whole reason its warmer in the first place, because apple is using the aluminium case to draw the heat away from the chip.

it's not uncomfortably warm, and if it is for you, then i have found that stopping what you're doing will cool the iPad back down to a cool to the touch temperate in less than 5 minutes.

The iPad gets warm so that your game continues to run smoothly. it's not an Issue, its a Feature.

So, it is a feature (with a big F) and an issue (with a big I). Reassuring... This can be a made into a classical example of the war of definition. Perhaps it is more sincere to say that for some (perhaps many?) users this is an issue, an inconvenient experience while using the Ipad, etc.?
 
So, it is a feature (with a big F) and an issue (with a big I). Reassuring... This can be a made into a classical example of the war of definition. Perhaps it is more sincere to say that for some (perhaps many?) users this is an issue, an inconvenient experience while using the Ipad, etc.?

Without the heat, the same people would be complaining that after 15 minutes their games are lagging, so which would be the more inconvenient experience? Lagging games or a warm iPad (with a big I instead of a P)?
 
I think the heat is worthy of discussion, and not to be just mocked. Nobody here hates Apple or the IPad.

As I said in a previous discussion I have been thinking about upgrading my IPad 1 to a 2 instead.

Just opening and closing of apps the 3 on the demo was significantly warmer than the two and both warmer than the 1. My 1 enjoys a lot of battery time, and powers really fast when charging. The reports say the 3 drains when in use and plugged in. I also think the heat will kill the battery faster over the long haul. My iPad 1 is still going strong.

I would have liked to see them just up the Ram, a better camera, and maybe a better processor than the retina display for the 3.
 
What this boils (sorry for pun) down to is its Apple. Apple is nitpicked more than any other company. It has been and always will be that way. Look at devices that use flash and how hot they get and how bad battery life is but shame on Apple for not putting flash on their devices. Now that Apple changes the way heat dicpipates, shame on Apple for making the rear of the device warm.
 
Yep. It sure did with the washer dryer we bought that afterwards we decided we were no impressed with. Than the next year CR decided instead of a best for your money that they couldn't recomend it (same washer dryer).

You are better off reading Amazon and epinion reviews honestly. CR is worthless.

I do agree...posts from users offer the best bet...but what CR can do is cull the field.
 
Finding the balance...

Without the heat, the same people would be complaining that after 15 minutes their games are lagging, so which would be the more inconvenient experience? Lagging games or a warm iPad (with a big I instead of a P)?
If many persons who use the iPad 3 in a regular, daily way find the device to be uncomfortable warm/hot, I will say Apple has not found an optimal balance regarding the field of power, speed and heat dissipation; which are some of the relevant factors here. Perhaps Apple is too obsessed with the thinness factor (even though the new iPad is 0,6 mm thicker than the iPad 2), as one earlier poster has mentioned. And also the choice of the material used to make it, is of importance.

As also has been said in this thread, this IS an interesting and important discussion - not to be mocked - and the experience of more users who state their opinion in a sincere, friendly and constructive way is worth reading. I think it will be a huge mistake to "set in stone" that Apple "per definition" cannot have made a decision (regarding iPad 3) that is sub-optimal and therefore uncomfortable for many users.
 
Hope you guys don't like going outside during the day, cause it gets a bit hotter than the iPad out there, might make you uncomfortable.
 
Yes, and it will be called the new iPad aka iPad 4 starting at $499. Look for it March 2013.
 
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