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Will Apple Release New Macs Soon? Here's What the Latest Rumors Say

arqtiq said:
Delivery times even for the base models seem to be increasing. For custom configurations of most MacBooks, it‘s now 3+ weeks. Supply chain issues or low stock due to new models arriving soon?
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Is this just because Apple is now shipping their products by boat instead of plane?
 
Eager to see what becomes of the 13" pro. Hopefully a new design with bumped up base specs.
 
SexExpert said:
Given how underwhelming the performance improvements where for the N3 A15, is there much hope the improvements for the M3 chips will bring 'significant performance and power efficiency improvements' like the article says?
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HackMacDaddy said:
I went from super excited for 3nm AS to OMG I hope they don't screw this one up.
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FlyingTexan said:
Yes because they're completely different setups. People need to stop looking at geekbench scores. It's not just about the % increase in some specific task but the capability of the chip itself. The m3 may very well have many new capabilities not just faster at the ones it already has. And it's not all about the chip. Right now I'm writing this on a 2020 13" MBP 8GB and it's done everything I've wanted from it. I don't code all day or do video editing. I'm the other 95% of the users out there that just like a well built machine that's a great daily driver. I once flew from Dubai to Houston watching movies and didn't need to plug it in. That was insane. Being able to plug this thing in, charge it up, and go to work all day without taking a charger is fantastic.

I'm not the biggest MacOS fan, though. I'm held to the macbook because I use messenger and airdrop A LOT. I hate the file system vs windows. If I could get messenger to work on windows and a laptop was made with good battery life, speakers, screen, and trackpad then I'd be 100% for it. I want to love the thinkpad x1 carbon's so much but right now they're behind the curve on trackpads, audio, and cpus so I don't.

My point being there's a lot of reasons to want a refresh and the CPU is just part of it. If that's the only reason you want to buy a machine then might not be worth it. For me I'm really fighting the urge right now to get the 14" M2 MBP simply because of the XDR screen, better speakers, etc. I don't need to say I'm a video editor or content creator to justify my purchase. I spend half my life in hotels and I'm not going to spend it with some janky setup. If I worked at home and barely unplugged my machine that's one thing but I live off this 200 days a year on the road. So I'm eagerly holding back as best I can to see if something new comes out this month. I have 400k Chase Sapphire points I'm sitting on I could just use with gift cards for 10% off so I might really treat myself this time around.
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This is a really interesting and technical thread of comparisons that you should check out with regard to the A17 on the 3nm node.

I think you will be pleasantly surprised about what the M3 will bring over the M2.

I wish posts like this would be more center stage and less of the hyper reaction posts.

 
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I had a silly thought a while ago that the iMac should have a built-in battery so you can move it around the house in a more flexible way. Especially since Apple show it off casually dumped in the kitchen or at the dining table. etc.

It even has that bespoke power cord and a bunch of empty space behind the screen now so it would be easy to implement.

EDIT: I just remembered this brilliant/dumb thing:

 
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The current 13 in MBA design was released less than 1.5 years ago, and the 15in MBA, which was released this summer, is basically the same design. So, I don't expect any significant MBA design changes for several years. When the MBA is updated, it will likely be incremental spec bumps. Also, at some point, Apple will bump the RAM and storage of the base model. ...but, probably not this time around. For my purposes, incremental updates are unlikely to compel me to trade-in my M2 MBA.
 
iZac said:
I had a silly thought a while ago that the iMac should have a built-in battery so you can move it around the house in a more flexible way. Especially since Apple show it off casually dumped in the kitchen or at the dining table. etc.

It even has that bespoke power cord and a bunch of empty space behind the screen now so it would be easy to implement.
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There's a MB or iPad for this want.

However, I do see some people carrying iMacs around to use like laptops... and there are even bags for that...

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I swear there was a rumor a year ago of job postings on Apple's site about networking hardware engineers, giving everyone the impression they were going to make networking devices again. Am I crazy?
 
I actually expect the M2 update as a press release event this month. I think M3 waits until 2024... else Vpro will be upgraded to M3 too (because it doesn't make much sense to establish M3 as "latest/greatest" for upwards of 3 to 6 months and then roll out the super new wonder product with "old" technology).

I just can't see Apple undermining the appeal of the rest of the Mac lineup by rolling out ONE model with M3 going into the most lucrative season of the year. Roll out ONE M3 Mac and all other Macs are immediately cast as using "old" tech... encouraging the segment that cares about "latest & greatest" to DELAY their purchases until after the Mac they want is also on M3.

However, update iMac to M2 and then the spin can be that "our entire Mac lineup is all using latest & greatest tech... buy now."

In 2024+, I also expect a resurrection of iMac "bigger" probably bigger than 27" with PRO & MAX chips... priced much more like the former iMac Pro than the iMac 27" we remember (in short: VERY profitable for Apple). Anyone who thinks Vpro seems expensive had better brace themselves for this one... and start saving now.
 
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gpat said:
It's actually a flagship machine for the first time ever.
Apple really wanted you to buy an iMac instead of the Mini during both the PPC and Intel days.
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It got a lot of attention back when it was first introduced - Apple was fairly small then (we didn't think that at the time obviously) and it made a big impact - and I feel like Apple really championed it during the late 00's and early 10's with things like the server config.
 
HackMacDaddy said:
It's beyond me why we don't even have a 27" version. I know a couple of people who will not upgrade untill the screen gets bigger
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Cus for some strange reason they replaced it with the Mac Studio/studio display. You’d think a modern powerful imac would be a given with how much smaller the components are than the old days and the power efficiency but nope they decided a separate box was better….
 
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No iMac 30" 5.5K or 32" 6K during the Apr 2021 iMac 24" 4.5K M1 release is most likely caused by high display parts price.

These are likely the target price for a larger iMac.

- M3: $1,799 to $1,999
- M3 Pro: $2,299 to $2,799
- M3 Max: $2,499 to $3,199
- M3 Ultra: $4,999 to $7,399

Above price range are based on the last Intel large iMacs: 2020 iMac 27" & 2017 iMac Pro.

Those pointing to the $1,599 2022 Studio Display 27" 5K price point should be aware that PC OEM prices for 27" 5K panels start at $407.31.

Historically any product much less computer parts goes down in price over time.

Examples are below.

- $3,999 1999 Cinema Display 22"
- $3,299 2004 Cinema Dispaly 30"
- $4,999 2019 Pro Display XDR 32" 6K
- $1,599 2022 Studio Display 27" 5K
- $969.99 LG UltraFine 27MD5KLB-B 27" 5K
- $1,296.99 LG UltraFine 27MD5KL-B 27" 5K

For a iMac 24" M2, Apple should have released it with either the

- Oct 2022 iPad Pro M2 making it 18 months old or
- Jan 2023 Mac mini M2 & M2 Pro making it 21 months old

As of today that iMac is 30 months old.

From 5nm M1 to 5nm M2 chip took 19.5 months.

3nm M3 chip is likely to occur Q1 2024 before Apr 2024 with these devices getting it 1st

- Vision Pro
- iPad Pro
- MBA
- MBP 13"
- iMac 24"

By WWDC 2024 in June the M3 Pro & Max chips for the MBP 14"/16" & Mac mini will be out. Hopefully a iMac 32" as well.

Before Christmas M3 Ultra chip for the 2024 Mac Studio & Mac Pro.

M4 chip be released by WWDC 2025. Hopefully it be 2nm.
 
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Outside of the larger iMac which really would be helpful to many people in the consumer realm…the things I want most at this point are things like cellular MacBooks, FaceID, 120hz/mini LED in a larger display etc…the M3/4 will continue to improve but that isn’t the area in most need at this point.
 
gpat said:
Not a chance.
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Citation? 2nm is scheduled to be out by 2024.
tomacwhite said:
Why would they keep both the 13” and 14” MacBook Pro’s?
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So long as it is profitiable to sell a 13" then it will be made available for sale.

jayducharme said:
I'd be surprised if Apple doesn't release anything else this year. New tech toys right before the holiday season always produce a sales boost.
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List of devices that are most likely to refresh before 2024:

- 2020 HomePod mini S5
- 2020 AirPods Max H1*
- 2021 iPad mini A15 Bionic
- 2021 Airpods H1*
- 2022 iPad Air M1
- 2022 iPhone SE A15 Bionic*
- 2022 Apple Watch SE S8
- 2022 iPad A14 Bionic
- 2022 Apple TV 4K A15 Bionic

*All refreshed devices using Lightning ports will transition to USB-C ports in compliance to EU law.

The newer Apple chips are the M2, H2, S9, A16 Bionic & A17 Pro.

To exceed USB-C 480Mbps data speeds will require a A17 Pro chip.

The 1st 5nm Apple chip is the A14 Bionic while the 1st 3nm Apple chip is the A17 Pro.
 
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