Will iPad Pro 2 arrive this year?

[Benjamin Frost]

The iPad Pro is such a missed opportunity.

It should have heralded a transformation of the iPad, but it hasn't. The main reason is because iOS is so restricted, but the hardware is also flawed. The screen size is excellent. But the bezels are much too big. I think this is so that the battery life is good enough.

The iPad Pro will become a compelling device when the bezels have all but disappeared, the battery life is 13 hours, the price is $200 cheaper, and iOS is turned into a truly optimised platform for it. Only if developers can make money will they bother making the pro apps that exist on the Mac, and the trend for some while has been to abandon iOS.

I feel confident that were Steve Jobs still with us today, the iPad would be turbocharged and standing on the shoulders of the iPhone and Mac, rather than being treated as a third class citizen.

 

[ZombiePete]

The iPad Pro is such a missed opportunity.

I disagree with you on several levels. The iPP really, in my experience, exceeds a lot of the expectations I had for it. As a laptop replacement for my needs it really has been exceptional.

Getting rid of the bezels would be a huge mistake. You need a place to hold onto something like a tablet; often I pick mine up with one hand to transport it around the house, and the bezel that's there is just barely enough to accommodate that. Other times, such as when reading in bed (I hold it in landscape for that) the bezels are just right for two hands.

I think any of us pretending that a) we know what Steve Jobs would have done in any given situation or that b) things would be how we would want it if Jobs were still alive are deluding ourselves. Steve Jobs was just a man who made mistakes and unpopular decisions all the time. I personally am quite happy with my iPP and feel it fulfills its role admirably.

EDIT: Also, where do you get the idea that the move "for some time" has been to abandon iOS among developers? I get the impression that you're not necessarily being 100% objective in your observations.

 

[Piggie]

People here make me laugh.

I demand a poor camera.
No way should there be a good one fitted that would be wrong, and I would be upset.
It must be a poor quality, anything other than that is unacceptable.

Really you can't make that up can you!

 

[JD2015]

Answer: Nope.

The iPP's powerful hardware specs and capabilities are almost redicoulous for an iPad as it is (or more accurately, what simple tasks an iPad has been traditionally used for in the past). An even more powerful iPP would make no sense until iOS and pro level apps can at least catch up to the current models specs.

Agree with that. The IPad range tends to go on a two yearly upgrade cycle these days. 3D Touch wouldn't add much until software improves e.g. Giving you more options when say suspecting text, or proving short cuts within apps through extensibility. IOS and IPP attachments (keyboard, transferring of large files) are really what are key to iPad pro going forward.

 

[Night Spring]

People here make me laugh.

I demand a poor camera.
No way should there be a good one fitted that would be wrong, and I would be upset.
It must be a poor quality, anything other than that is unacceptable.

Really you can't make that up can you!

Oh, come on. Nobody said anything like that, and you know it. You made that up!

 

[jamesrick80]

As many have said, there is no reason to release a iPad pro this year. The device is not even near reaching its capabilities. I expect better accessories for the device from Apple by the Fall of this year and software improvements with iOS 10.

 

[Piggie]

Oh, come on. Nobody said anything like that, and you know it. You made that up!

A little exaggerated perhaps but it almost seems that way.
It's as if they wish to find a solid reason why something should not be better by creating a scenario they do not like to prove their point.
Plus of course we have to add into the mix the Apple does not offer it hence it must be wrong mentality.

Those screaming that large phones were dumb, and Apple are right not to make them
Those screaming the iPhone camera was good enough and they should not start increasing megapixels.
And of course the most classic Apple should never make any Tablet smaller than the original 9.7" model as it would be unusable.

Myself, I would like to see fitted the best that CAN be fitted.
I despise the "we have made this to be the very best it can" when they have deliberately fitted a $5 camera in a $800 device rather than say a far far better $10 camera.

 

[Beavix]

Myself, I would like to see fitted the best that CAN be fitted.
I despise the "we have made this to be the very best it can" when they have deliberately fitted a $5 camera in a $800 device rather than say a far far better $10 camera.

Setting a price for a product is not so simple. Besides the cost and profitability issues there are other factors like competitive pricing and psychological pricing. Add $5 for a better camera, another $5 for something else and so on until your product becomes more expensive that the competition or it breaks the $1000 price barrier.

Also, adding the very best camera on a big device like an iPad is really a waste.

 

[Night Spring]

Also, adding the very best camera on a big device like an iPad is really a waste.

And the camera they did put in is actually quite good. Maybe not the very best camera available, but it's significantly better than the one in Air2. The indoor snapshots I took with the iPP look as good as the ones I took with my iPhone 6. Perhaps somebody else can tell the difference, but I can't.

 

[Piggie]

So, given that the iPad Pro is the top leading device in Apple's tablet range.
the newest highest spec model of all their mobile devices.

Would anyone here be upset or complain if Apple had fitted the same camera into it, that's currently fitted on the iPhone 6 Plus ?
Is anyone THAT strongly against it, that they would be here now publicly posting that Apple were wrong in fitting their current best camera in the phone into their highest spec, most expensive tablet, and they should downgrade it to something not as good as it's "only a tablet" and only phones should have the better camera's ?

 

[Beavix]

Would anyone here be upset or complain if Apple had fitted the same camera into it, that's currently fitted on the iPhone 6 Plus ?

If the price stays the same then I don't care.
I just don't want to pay more for something I rarely use.
A better screen or a better Pencil, that's another story.

 

[Night Spring]

So, given that the iPad Pro is the top leading device in Apple's tablet range.
the newest highest spec model of all their mobile devices.

Would anyone here be upset or complain if Apple had fitted the same camera into it, that's currently fitted on the iPhone 6 Plus ?

I'm sure nobody would complain, but the question is, can Apple do that without raising the price of the iPP?

We know if the price were higher, somebody would definitely complain

 

[Piggie]

I think you would be surprised if the public had a choice.
If the better camera module cost Apple $15 as opposed to $5

So to Apple it's the same assembly, just higher cost.
Costs them $10

They Apply an Apple tax of $300%

iPad Pro $800 standard or $830 with the higher quality camera.

Be interesting, and I think we all know what would happen

 

[Night Spring]

iPad Pro $800 standard or $830 with the higher quality camera.

Be interesting, and I think we all know what would happen

No, I don't know what would happen. Well, one thing that *would* happen is a hundred posts on MacRumors from people dithering over if they want to pay $30 for a better camera. My purely unscientific guess is maybe about half would go for it and the other half wouldn't.

 

[shox2k2]

I can't see adding 3d touch because they offer the pencil. They can add features with that. I guess camera's can always be improved but I don't see many people using iPads to take pictures/videos. And when I do, I laugh at them.

 

[bowlman2345]

Adding a 300% "APPLE TAX" isn't a tax. It's a rule of manufacturing. For your cost, you charge at least 3x at retail. This isn't the iPhone. There aren't any subsidies and they won't sell at the same volume as an iPhone, so they are going to need the technology to reduce in price in order to add it into their product. That's a big reason why I think they will be on at least an 18-24 month release cycle.

 

[kupkakez]

I don't think we will see another iPad Pro in 2016. I'm thinking iPads in general are going to go to a 2 year cycle. Up to this point I've always upgraded annually. I feel like the internals are more than enough to stretch it to a 2 year upgrade cycle easily.