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Will John Ternus Really Be Apple's Next CEO?
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Ive sucked even when Jobs was around.
Then, Apple will likely struggle with the next non-Indian CEO, when all the other top US tech companies have succeeded with them.
Erm Satya Nadella a success?
Literally ****s up everything he touches.
Do really think so? Satya Nadella turned MSFT around after the debacle of the Balmer years.
No, if they did Tim Cook would have been out at any point in the last 10 years.
I actually find it easiest to imagine that Cook recognized how terrible he was and actively sabotaged any attempt to get a successor to him.
It's interesting reading about how incredibly risk adverse leadership at the company is. Where did that culture come from? I don't think Jobs was risk adverse, and I think he would have stomped out people who were.
I think that's fairly common with people willing to take risks, though.
Apple would likely have stayed just as relevant without AS.
The keyword is internally. Publically, he didn't get flamed much.
It seemed like it for a minute, but now all of their consumer businesses (Surface and XBox) are in the toilet and all Microsoft cares about any more is AI and now many more employees they can lay off because of it.
We all hated on Ballmer back in the day, but I can’t help but wonder if XBox, at least, wouldn’t be in a better place if Ballmer stuck around. Say what you will about him, he was at least competitive.
Tony Fadell always gave me douche vibes. but at this point I think he would be exactly what they need to build great products again. John Ternus is the safe long-serving squeaky clean choice. I'm not sure what really makes him so great either. Just in the right place at the right time. Craig Federighi was a favorite and is somewhere in-between. Still it's like Apple to promote from within like cowards instead of taking a chance on Tony.
Fascinating subtle hints in this reporting. "Geopolitical affairs" and hand tremors -- is Cook being poisoned by his blackmailers?
There is uncertainty about Apple's head of hardware engineering John Ternus succeeding Tim Cook as CEO, The Information reports. Some former Apple executives apparently hope that a new "dark-horse" candidate will emerge.
Ternus is considered to be the most likely candidate to succeed Cook as CEO. The report notes that he is more likely to become CEO than software head chief Craig Federighi, Chief Operating Officer Sabih Khan, or marketing head Greg Joswiak.
Ternus is 50 and has worked at Apple since 2001. He is known for being dependable and good at following orders with an obsessive attention to detail. Colleagues describe him as calm, emotionally intelligent, logical, and conservative. He purportedly took the fall for Apple's butterfly keyboard internally, which earned him respect. He also led the transition of the Mac to Apple silicon to much success. These situations are said to have helped Ternus earn Cook's trust.
However, some voices in the company believe that Ternus is not ready to take on the role, which could delay a succession announcement. Some skeptics inside the company say that Ternus is too risk averse, leading to frustrations within his group. For example, some in Apple's hardware engineering department were disappointed that Ternus declined to fund more ambitious projects.
One of these individuals was vice president Tang Tan, who now leads OpenAI's project to build an AI hardware device designed by Apple's former chief designer, Jony Ive. Tan and Ive have since poached a large number of hardware engineers from Ternus' team to work on the unreleased device. Other critics say that Ternus "isn't a charismatic leader" and has had little involvement in the geopolitical affairs that have dominated the attention of Cook in recent years.
While Craig Federighi could succeed Cook due to his high profile, there are concerns that his focus on software may make him a poor fit for the role. He apparently prefers tackling technical problems rather than dealing with the kind of broader issues that the role of CEO demands.
Federighi is also risk-averse and voiced disproval over the Apple's spending on the Vision Pro and its now-canceled self-driving car project. He was also initially skeptical about AI, believing that the technology was overhyped and too unpredictable.
Cook has said publicly that he wants Apple's next CEO to come from within the company, but it is possible that the company could opt for a former employee. One such individual is said to be former Apple hardware executive Tony Fadell, who co-created the iPod.
Fadell reportedly told associates recently that he would be open to replacing Cook as CEO. Some former Apple executives believe that Fadell would help "shake up" the company from the perspective of a brash product leader.
Other individuals within Apple see the prospect as "unlikely," since Fadell was a "polarizing figure" when he worked at the company. Apple passed on acquiring Fadell's smart home company Nest in 2014 because some staff did not want him to return to the company.
Regardless of who succeeds him, Cook is now thought to be highly likely to retire in the not-too-distant future. Some analysts believe that Tim Cook "hasn't moved fast enough" or with the urgency of executives at Meta and Google to respond to the growing challenge of AI.
There are reportedly growing signs in Cook's personal life that he could be planning to move on soon. He apparently no longer routinely rises at 4 a.m. as he once did to go to the gym. Individuals around Cook have begun to notice a slight tremor in his hands, which was also visible during a recent visit to the White House.
In addition, Cook surprised colleagues when he purchased a luxury home outside Palm Springs, California. The report notes that he used to be noticeably more frugal, such as when he chose to rent a home in Silicon Valley rather than buying one to save money.
Senior Apple employees are said to be so sure of the likelihood of major management changes at the company, which could open up new opportunities, that they have raised the situation to many who have tried to recruit them.
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$200 million paydays tend to change plans unexpectedly. I wouldn’t want to work for meta, but I’ve never been offered 200M before. I’m sure I could figure out a way to rationalize that for the right amount of money.
I can't picture Ternus as being the type of person who would kiss the ring in Washington. Apparently that's now a requirement for tech CEOs.
Ever heard of Salman Khan, Shah Rukh Khan, and Aamir Khan for example?
I always enjoy to read comments confidently saying people we barely know are “cowards”, “passionate” or “creative”.
Not saying we can’t give our opinion, but there are very weak foundations to build such confident hypotheses.
Not saying we can’t give our opinion, but there are very weak foundations to build such confident hypotheses.
Both Scott and Tony are just a touch too old. Most likely would want someone for the next 15 years to lead Apple. That's a perfect fit for Ternus. He's 50, so just the right amount of time till his retirement.
The point was the rumors were he came back to Apple because Scott Forstall was no longer there.
Waiting for the Apple TV Conclave-style mini series about picking the new CEO.
To maximize the shocking plot twist at the end, they’ll make John Gruber CEO. Or maybe a clone of Steve Jobs like in Foundation.
To maximize the shocking plot twist at the end, they’ll make John Gruber CEO. Or maybe a clone of Steve Jobs like in Foundation.
When was Microsoft ever a consumer company? It’s weird to me how people judge Microsoft based on their success in consumer electronics. In my mind they’ve always been an enterprise focused company.
With regard to the risk-averse criticisms, I can't help but think of what Steve Jobs said about saying no.
With hardware design no one cares what the hardware looks like. With software design usability is important. I don't have much confidence in a chip designer taking over marking, strategy (except hardware), and software strategy.
Just because he is the one that every one else hates the least is no reason to put him in charge.
Just because he is the one that every one else hates the least is no reason to put him in charge.
Probably why he's so popular with some of the people on here
I do not know who the top level executives are at Apple, i.e., who is responsible for what, etcetera.
But, why are so many wanting Tim Cook to leave (I do not care either way)?
Innovate, keep the gadgets coming, just don't overcharge for the sake of it, and carry on...
But, why are so many wanting Tim Cook to leave (I do not care either way)?
Innovate, keep the gadgets coming, just don't overcharge for the sake of it, and carry on...