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winterdude010

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Do you think that when upgrading to Leopard, it won't install Boot Camp on a PPC for example? Because that would be a waste of space..
 
Mmm.....good question.

I think Leopard would recognize you have a PPC and don't install certain things.
 
I guess us PPC users are nothing but "dust in the wind" these days... :(
 
No, it'll install everything, just like it installs everything for a laptop even on a desktop machine.
 
I'd bet on yes...because boot camp is said to be part of OS 10.5, and PPC and Windows emultors suck, so I'm guessing Apple will avoid it all together with PPC Macs.


Maybe it will ask you if you want Windows Support(if you have an Intel Mac, PPC will just assume you "don't want it", and never ask)
 
Just like it installs the Ink prefpane for people without tablets, it'll install the BootCamp pane and software for PPC machines as well. Plus, it makes it easier to transfer system installs between machines, especially across architectures. It may not be visible unless you look for it, but it will be there.
 
My guess is intel only apps a la BootCamp will be an optionable....kinda like Classic in previous OS X versions
 
I guess us PPC users are nothing but "dust in the wind" these days... :(

Well you don't need Boot Camp.

Just like it installs the Ink prefpane for people without tablets, it'll install the BootCamp pane and software for PPC machines as well. Plus, it makes it easier to transfer system installs between machines, especially across architectures. It may not be visible unless you look for it, but it will be there.

Good point, but any Mac, PPC or Intel, can run a tablet if you buy one, a PPC Mac cannot install or run windows, no matter how hard you try. And if you try install Boot Camp on a PPC mac now, it'll say it can't, so the answer is it wont install components that can only run on Intel Macs.
 
I sure hope you're not confusing that with Windows 2003 PocketPC (also commonly abbreviated PPC) which is for PDAs and cell phones.

The last version of a Windows PowerPC version was NT 3.5 I believe.
 
Leopard will have the normal installer which allows you to customise the installation. Chances are it will not even allow you to install BootCamp on a PPC Mac.
 
Just like it installs the Ink prefpane for people without tablets, it'll install the BootCamp pane and software for PPC machines as well. Plus, it makes it easier to transfer system installs between machines, especially across architectures. It may not be visible unless you look for it, but it will be there.

I see not point in installing a BootCamp pane for PPC since BootCamp won't work on PPC machines.
 
I guess us PPC users are nothing but "dust in the wind" these days... :(

Yeah, too bad. You know ripping (my own) cd's to iTunes isn't faster on my intel MBP than it is on my 1.2Ghz G4 iBook? So for me it's still fast enough, I wonder how much of a real speedup it actually is for most users. We should see more real tests instead of benchmarks that aren't really saying all that much...

I <3 POWERPC
 
Do you think that when upgrading to Leopard, it won't install Boot Camp on a PPC for example? Because that would be a waste of space..

Apple tends to install everything, so that when your Quad G5 breaks down, you can remove the harddisk, plug it into a MacPro, and it just works.
 
You're wrong. There is probably about 90% PPC users in the creative industry.

Anyone want to back me up here?

<graphic designer with powerbook G4 raises hand>

You are right. In most agencies you'll find the various versions of the powermac G5 these days. Most will wait with the upgrade to CS3 until some version .0 bugs are found and eliminated. They have no time to experiment, and until now there was no point in getting an intel mac if the most important applications run at the same speed or even slower and less stable. And to upgrade all software licenses and machines is a huge expense.
 
Yeah, too bad. You know ripping (my own) cd's to iTunes isn't faster on my intel MBP than it is on my 1.2Ghz G4 iBook? So for me it's still fast enough, I wonder how much of a real speedup it actually is for most users. We should see more real tests instead of benchmarks that aren't really saying all that much...

I <3 POWERPC

that's because your disc drive didn't get any faster ;)
 
Apple tends to install everything, so that when your Quad G5 breaks down, you can remove the harddisk, plug it into a MacPro, and it just works.

er, that won't work...
binary apps don't work on both architectures, they just deliver 2 installation packages, so the same install package can be used on both systems, but an installed PPC systems won't work a bit on an intel machine
 
Yes, PPC Leopard won't include boot-camp ;), I would imagine all the major features would be PPC and Intel though.
 
that's because your disc drive didn't get any faster ;)

You are right of course, but all I'm saying is: real-world speed differences isn't all that much between a G4 and a Core2duo if you're just an average joe and not into video encoding etc. (granted this is a big if)

I'm a sysadmin, I feel NO difference whatsoever even between my 667Mhz TiBook G4 and my 2.3 GHZ MacBook PRO, apart from the fact that the MBP boots faster... (I don't game on the machines (yet, just wait till SC2 :D) I hardly ever recode a video on them (have dedicated machines for that) etc.

Most people will therefore still be very happy with a G4 (or G5).

My G4 has always felt very snappy, and the MBP does not improve my experience, except for that comforting heat on my lap :rolleyes:

(Just so everyone does not think I'm a complete idiot: of course the Core2duo is faster, I just don't experience it that way, because of the applications I use)
 
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