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Currently on my 2010 MBP 13" with 4GB ram it runs a bit sluggishly when trying to play Football Manager and browse a bit. It ran a lot better in SL. Getting 8GB of RAM this week so should see an improvement.

I have the same model and I used to play The Sims 3 all the time before "upgrading," now I can't play for 10 minutes without it freezing up. I wanted to do the same upgrade, tell me how it goes?
 
Wasting work time with Lion OS

I installed Lion 3days ago and now every time I open a program, my whole system stalls, it will take up to a minute or 2 and then it will be fine... till I open another program. I am wasting time on projects, I even try to "ForceQuite" and that will not even come up.

Can anyone recommend or let me know what is going on? Thank you
 
I installed Lion 3days ago and now every time I open a program, my whole system stalls, it will take up to a minute or 2 and then it will be fine... till I open another program. I am wasting time on projects, I even try to "ForceQuite" and that will not even come up.

Can anyone recommend or let me know what is going on? Thank you

All this happens to me as well. About 3 times a week my system beach balls and all I can do is break for a cup of coffee until Lion gets done stuttering and choking on whatever it's doing.

No pattern to it. It's almost like I have a failing drive.
 
Although I am no longer a full-on Lion hater, it is, without any doubt, slower in my experience.

My 2011 MBP now performs as well as it did under SL....but to make that happen I had to upgrade from 4GB RAM to 8GB....
 
Look at this screen:

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Why Lion (full 64bit system), is much slower than Snow Leopard? I really dont understand.
 
Like my fellow (good) mac users say it's horrible, this is true.

It has a lot of bugs, the system often responds extremely slow.

If you use luxrender, or other render software (3D) the computer freezes all the time.

Apple was good when they had leopard (10.5), from that point they went down.

Snow leopard was a little bit of a let down. but Lion is just over the top nonsense.

Stay with the older versions, there is nothing that Lion has to offer you.
 
it'll be significantly slower. I have an iMac 2008 (2.8 GHZ) with ATI 2600 HD card, Mac Mini and MBP 15 both with C2D and nvidia 9400m. The iMac took the biggest hit, as they don't have decent drivers for Lion for ATI cards. This is a known issue that has been discussed to death on apple boards.

The 9400m machines work OK, but are still slower than they were under SL.

I was at apple store yesterday and just comparing a 21 low end iMac to 27 inch high end iMac - the low end iMac could barely handle the system animations on Lion - they were definitely laggy, not as smooth as under SL. The high end machines could handle things better.

Things are a lot worse on older hardware - my iMac couldn't handle 720p youtube playback, especially after it went to sleep and then I woke it up, due to the problem I mentioned with ATI graphic drivers. Some people were successful installing SL GPU drivers under Lion - not something I'm willing to try.

Needless to say, all my 3 machines are back on SL. I hope they fix these problems with Lion soon, as I'm thinking about buying a new iMac - and right now I don't fell like these iMacs with Lion are faster than my 3 year old iMac with SL.
 
Why is Lion slow? Software bloat... on OS X?

I compared my MBP with my daughters...
LION - Early 2011 MPB i7 2.2 Ghz 8 GB RAM
Snow Leopard - Mid 2009 MBP core 2 DUO 2.26 Ghz 4 GB RAM.

Lion boot time 54 sec
SL boot time 49 sec.

If the 2009 MPB had an i7, I'm sure the difference would've been more. I realize that speed is measured buy much more than boot time, but I have
not seen a big difference comparing the 2 MBP's above. Until it comes to gaming, then the 2011 is certainly faster. But still, I would think everything would be faster.

Just for fun...
1995 IBM WIN95 133 mhz Pentium. 32 MB RAM. Boot time 38 sec!
I wonder how that compares to an old Power Mac
 
With 3GB of RAM, I'd stay with SL. If your machine can handle 8GB of RAM, I'd recommend Lion. I wasn't having the best Lion experience with 2GB of RAM. But upgraded to 8GB and it screams.
 
I've not noticed but then I have a slow computer :p

Seriously with 8gb on my MBP, I've not noticed any degradation.

Now with my hackintosh, I ran some benchmarks before and after Lion and the numbers were shown that my hackintosh was a bit faster in Snow Leopard then Lion.
 
I recommend mac os x lion because you can use I cloud and it has a lot more different options icons and new layouts etc.. It took a very long time for it to download and I hesitated for a while downloading it seeing that a lot of people complained saying it did slow down your notebook. I believe that mine works much better now and it did not slow it down one bit. It depends on how much stuff you have on your mac and what type of applications you have installed then it will slow it down If your mac is too overcrowded. Thanks
 
I'd say Lion is a tiny bit slower for me than SL, but boot and shutdown is more than 5 times slower. It used to take 50 seconds to do a full reboot, now it takes more than 5 minutes.
 
it'll be significantly slower. I have an iMac 2008 (2.8 GHZ) with ATI 2600 HD card, Mac Mini and MBP 15 both with C2D and nvidia 9400m. The iMac took the biggest hit, as they don't have decent drivers for Lion for ATI cards. This is a known issue that has been discussed to death on apple boards.

The 9400m machines work OK, but are still slower than they were under SL.

I was at apple store yesterday and just comparing a 21 low end iMac to 27 inch high end iMac - the low end iMac could barely handle the system animations on Lion - they were definitely laggy, not as smooth as under SL. The high end machines could handle things better.

Things are a lot worse on older hardware - my iMac couldn't handle 720p youtube playback, especially after it went to sleep and then I woke it up, due to the problem I mentioned with ATI graphic drivers. Some people were successful installing SL GPU drivers under Lion - not something I'm willing to try.

Needless to say, all my 3 machines are back on SL. I hope they fix these problems with Lion soon, as I'm thinking about buying a new iMac - and right now I don't fell like these iMacs with Lion are faster than my 3 year old iMac with SL.

Barely able to handle the os, not surprised here.
 
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Slower, yes... but that's not what turned me off Lion...

Lion makes some big changes in some people's workflows.

If (like me) you use the filesystem to manage document versions, Lion breaks more than 25 years of tradition, expectations, and processes. It offers Autosave and Versions to replace that, but for me, that's not a useful replacement (don't always want to save, and documents too complex to differentiate much using versions), and there are a bunch of missing shortcuts.

Get a Lion machine and try to search by filename in the Finder. See for yourself.

All the above has me going back to 10.6, and getting rid of my new Lion-locked iMac and getting a slightly older refurb that came with Snow Leopard. First time I've ever taken a Mac back; couldn't believe it but the Autosave/Versions/Revert workflow in it's current implementation is a deal breaker for me. However, Autosave on/off switch by App, restored keyboard shortcuts, and some serious bug fixes and I'd be on the Lion bandwagon in a day.
 
My MBP7,1 doesn't feel slower under Lion, even with Filevault2 enabled. Admittedly, I use an SSD and 8GB of RAM.
 
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I have a 2010 MBP 13" 4GB ram with 500GB momentus XT. Clean install of Lion - ran slower, used more resources than SL. Back on SL after 3 months of Lion use, happy and efficient again.
 
Look at this screen:

Why Lion (full 64bit system), is much slower than Snow Leopard? I really dont understand.

Simple. One is just about to reach version .3 (10.7.3), the other is at version .8 (10.6.8)

...that and Xbench is one of the most unreliable benchmark tools you can use.
 
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