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Will Rosetta be included in Lion?

Damn.......
I just watched the Apple Keynote from WWDC.

Lion has a few great Features.
And iCloud is great.

But i have to start Freehand for the next few years.......
Thats such a bad situation.....
So i can't upgrade to lion.



But that isn't all:
I can't buy a new Mac in a few Weeks - because since they will be shipped with Lion they won't boot in SnowLeopard anymore.



What can i do?

Do you think there will be any Chance or any Hack to start Freehand in Lion anytime?
 
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Since I'm affected by no rosetta, I submitted feedback to apple requesting them to reconsider. I'd suggest everyone concerned do the same. If they get enough response, hopefully they will bring it back.
 
Calde said:
Since I'm affected by no rosetta, I submitted feedback to apple requesting them to reconsider. I'd suggest everyone concerned do the same. If they get enough response, hopefully they will bring it back.
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It's way too late in the development cycle for this to have any effect.
 
graubereich said:
Are you sure 100% this is not technical not possible?
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Are you asking if it's technically impossible for Rosetta to return? I don't know, but it would be a big undertaking as they'd have to reincorporate all that old PPC code. Not going to happen. And it would have to come as a big update to the OS, not a small MAS app.
 
Is there no way that a bridge into the Intel libraries could be developed for PowerPC apps?

It seems to me that there will be some way to do it, the real question is whether there are any hooks left that developers can use, so they can intercept double-clicks of a PPC app and open them properly, avoiding the dialogue about them no longer being supported.

It's a bit of a downer, but will Snow Leopard not run just fine in emulation? Or we can dual-boot, so it's not like we've lost all options for good.
 
partion

In order to run programs that require rosetta, you will have to partition your HD. You can run snow leopard on one and Lion on another. I have 1 program that requires rosetta, so I partioned my HD into snown leopard with 10G and works fine. Crappy work around, but at least it works.
 
but this won't work for new macs......

thats the big deal breaker :-(


my hope is anyone will build a rosetta hack, replacement or whatever....
 
graubereich said:
Are you sure 100% this is not technical not possible?
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All of the hundred+ framework bundles in /System/Library/Framework has no PPC code in it. Even if someone where to copy those files from Snow Leopard to Lion it would break the system making it unstable due to outdated frameworks. Nobody has the Lion source code to recompile them back to PPC, only Apple. You might as well install SL in another partition.

OTOH, Apple might release a legacy PPC emulation API for developers that contain PPC as with the case of Quicken which is a PPC application that they promised Lion compatibility. https://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/16/quicken-2007-may-run-on-os-x-lion-even-with-rosetta-dead/

But then again, what are the chances of Adobe's canned Freehand coming out in 2012.
 
Reasec said:
Rosetta is obsolete. Time to move on...
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This is the reason Windows will always dominate the business/enterprise sector while Apple caters to kindergarteners with its iDevices. If you have a business, you may need to replace hardware occasionally but that does NOT mean that you have to replace the software your business depends on.
 
colourfastt said:
If you have a business, you may need to replace hardware occasionally but that does NOT mean that you have to replace the software your business depends on.
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Windows model is to replace everything every couple of years and pay Micro$oft each time. In business we can't run old versions of Office because the file formats change each time. They prime the pump by giving employees cheap copies of the newest Office via the Home Use Program. Then the employees bring in file formats that they demand be read on their work machines.
 
saulinpa said:
Windows model is to replace everything every couple of years and pay Micro$oft each time. In business we can't run old versions of Office because the file formats change each time. They prime the pump by giving employees cheap copies of the newest Office via the Home Use Program. Then the employees bring in file formats that they demand be read on their work machines.
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Your argument about businesses being forced into support of new file formats is a good one. Many push back and delay the process, but it's inevitable.

The irony here is that those people who still use Office 2004 and haven't been driven to either 2008 or 2011 are the Office users who have the issue with lack of Rosetta. If Microsoft had truly forced everyone to upgrade, the Office users would be silent.

From Microsoft's perspective, they need "planned obsolescence" to avoid going out of business.
 
Yeah, the Lion has some great Features.
I like the full screen, and iCloud, which made me to do update.
But a little pity is many apps are not campatible with Lion. :(
Hmm, just got a list of Awesomely Free Lion Compatible Apps from iFunia Mac OS X Lion Column, cool! :D
 
colourfastt said:
This is the reason Windows will always dominate the business/enterprise sector while Apple caters to kindergarteners with its iDevices. If you have a business, you may need to replace hardware occasionally but that does NOT mean that you have to replace the software your business depends on.
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Yeah, right. This is exactly why Windows 7 is as bloated as it is. Of course, it is based on Windows NT (released in 1993) and is the result of code added on top of Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP, and Windows Vista.

You want all that bloat and baggage? You can have it. The only reason that the Windows Registry still exists is because getting rid of it would break everything Microsoft has done for the past 20 years and they are to afraid to make that move.

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