Will the 27" Quad-core i7 be updated soon?

louis0nfire

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Or only the lower models you think? What could they possibly update on the 27"? Thanks
 

reberto

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If the i7 iMac does get updated, it might just be a small one. Possibly an update to a HD5770 GPU (not a big upgrade from the HD4850 but an upgrade nevertheless, the HD5850 might be too hot) Then again, there are mobile versions of the HD5830/50/70 so you never know. I doubt the CPU will be touched because the only LGA1156 CPU that is better than the i7 860 that the iMac currently uses is the i7 870, which is a lot more expensive than the 860. Possibly a build-to-order option?
 

TMRaven

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I'm thinking mobility 4870 would be their best option. It is essentially a mobile 4850 except with GDDR5 memory, therefor very good.
 

Sensamic

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A new imac? Why? To find out they have another problem similar to the yellow tint, the flickering, the loud hd, etc? I think the actual imacs are perfect if they keep getting better and finally solving their problems. If they do so, why update right now? They are very good.

I would say to update them at the end of the year at the soonest.
 

slicecom

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The iMac came out before any 5000 series Radeon cards. Apple use current GPUs with their products.
Er no...

The first of the 5000 series Radeon cards were released on September 23, 2009 and were known to the public well before (and Apple I'm sure, well before that). The current gen iMacs were released October 20, 2009 and had the previous gen's 4000 series Radeon cards, which were first released on June 25, 2008.
 

Rodus

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^^No
the desktop versions did but the 5xxx mobility series which the iMac would use came out at the start of 2010.
 

Icaras

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I would not mind 2 slots for disks. One SSD and one 3.5".
I would love for this too, but I don't think there's any more room inside the chassis?

Hell, I would love just for the option of SSD CTO in the next iMac. This would be sufficient enough for me as I could easily attach an external mechanical firewire drive for mass storage needs.
 

bry223

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If the i7 iMac does get updated, it might just be a small one. Possibly an update to a HD5770 GPU (not a big upgrade from the HD4850 but an upgrade nevertheless, the HD5850 might be too hot) Then again, there are mobile versions of the HD5830/50/70 so you never know. I doubt the CPU will be touched because the only LGA1156 CPU that is better than the i7 860 that the iMac currently uses is the i7 870, which is a lot more expensive than the 860. Possibly a build-to-order option?
The 5850m uses less energy than the 4850m, by 20W I believe, and thus also runs cooler.
 

MythicFrost

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I only really care about the highest end 27" iMac, I think it'll have something along these lines:

27" iMac ~$2500-2800
  • Intel Core i7 980x (or some hexacore model) @ 2.8GHz
  • ATI Radeon 5850/70/90M (maybe even a 59xxm) 512MB
  • 4GB 1333MHz RAM
  • 2x 1 TB HDs (up to 2 TB, and SSD options)
 

reberto

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I only really care about the highest end 27" iMac, I think it'll have something along these lines:

27" iMac ~$2500-2800
  • Intel Core i7 980x (or some hexacore model) @ 2.8GHz
  • ATI Radeon 5850/70/90M (maybe even a 59xxm) 512MB
  • 4GB 1333MHz RAM
  • 2x 1 TB HDs (up to 2 TB, and SSD options)
All that in a slim case? Impossible without a MAJOR downclock of everything. Even then it's pushing it. And only 4GB of ram with all that? Mines got 8GB of DDR3-1333mhz and all you want is 4GB of DDR3-1333mhz? Come on man, dream bigger (but more sensable :p)
 

MythicFrost

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All that in a slim case? Impossible without a MAJOR downclock of everything. Even then it's pushing it.
It's not that much, a hexacore processor at 2.8GHz compared to a quad core, and a better 5850m GPU (which I think actually runs cooler than the 4850m) (hoping for better though)
And only 4GB of ram with all that? Mines got 8GB of DDR3-1333mhz and all you want is 4GB of DDR3-1333mhz?
I never said that's what I'd buy, it's merely a rough ("along these lines") description of what I think you should be able to buy. Also, I wouldn't buy the SSD and RAM from Apple so they'd be stock.
Come on man, dream bigger (but more sensable )
That's somewhat offensive to me, my dreams are plenty big and are sensible.
 

ermir4444

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I think the 21.5 and the base 27 will receive a core i3 530 or 540 wich is a very nice upgrade to the 3.06 e7600 c2d. I do think the 9400 will be gone and replace by a dedicated gfx possibly a 5650 and the higher end 27 get a 5850 with the same processors as right now. The bigger screen will not happen due to resolution constraint. If they release a 32" Imac then they would have to increase the resolution and the next resolution in line after the 2560:1440 is the 3840:2160.

27" iMac @ 2560x1440 gives a ppi 108.79
32" iMac @ 3840x2160 gives a ppi 137.68
17" MBP @ 1920x1200 gives a ppi 133.19

So the 32" iMac will be virtually imposible because the details on the screen at that given resolution will be smaller than they appear on a 17" MBP screen and in order to read text properly you need to be really close to the screen (or have superman eyesight). if you are really close to the screen than you wont be able to read on the edges considering that the screen is 32", and not to mention the const of such display. Unless Apple finds a resolution in between...
 

reberto

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It's not that much, a hexacore processor at 2.8GHz compared to a quad core, and a better 5850m GPU (which I think actually runs cooler than the 4850m) (hoping for better though)

I never said that's what I'd buy, it's merely a rough ("along these lines") description of what I think you should be able to buy. Also, I wouldn't buy the SSD and RAM from Apple so they'd be stock.

That's somewhat offensive to me, my dreams are plenty big and are sensible.
It's not the speed of the hexacore, it's the heat. They run wayyyy too hot to put in any small case.

5850m uses less power and runs cooler in 2D mode, once in 3D mode it's hotter and uses a bit more power

8GB of ram stock is pretty reasonable though if they give the computer a big enough hardware boost IMO.

If they were sensible then you wouldn't want a hexacore in an iMac :p
 

MythicFrost

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It's not the speed of the hexacore, it's the heat. They run wayyyy too hot to put in any small case.

5850m uses less power and runs cooler in 2D mode, once in 3D mode it's hotter and uses a bit more power

8GB of ram stock is pretty reasonable though if they give the computer a big enough hardware boost IMO.
They need to find a way. Nah 4GB stock is enough, that way I actually save money buying the RAM elsewhere.
If they were sensible then you wouldn't want a hexacore in an iMac
They are sensible, you can't improve the CPU in the iMac that much (IE higher clock frequency), they have to use a hexacore imo, we'll see.
 

Hellhammer

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It's not that much, a hexacore processor at 2.8GHz compared to a quad core, and a better 5850m GPU (which I think actually runs cooler than the 4850m) (hoping for better though)

I never said that's what I'd buy, it's merely a rough ("along these lines") description of what I think you should be able to buy. Also, I wouldn't buy the SSD and RAM from Apple so they'd be stock.

That's somewhat offensive to me, my dreams are plenty big and are sensible.
There is no hexa core suitable for iMac!!! Cheapest 95W is 2.93GHz Xeon chip which costs 1440$! Almost as much as the iMac!

High-end will remain pretty same. Same CPU and minor bump in GPU (5850 which ain't better actually)

MAYBE hexa core along with SB but I'm placing my money on late 2011
 

MacHamster68

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All that in a slim case? Impossible without a MAJOR downclock of everything. Even then it's pushing it. And only 4GB of ram with all that? Mines got 8GB of DDR3-1333mhz and all you want is 4GB of DDR3-1333mhz? Come on man, dream bigger (but more sensable :p)
i agree there are already to many people who are worried if the fans start spinning above 1500rpm once in a while ..so the imac would need some more holes in the back in order to fit a really good graphics card ,so as for heat ,desktop graphic cards are a absolute no no in this case and if a good mobile graphics card then ey the times point in direction DDR5 , and direct x11 is a must too as a lot of windows gamers are switching to the imac and they need more then 20fps so a crossfire or sli card is a absolute must , and you get them as mobile cards already for laptops , so there is no agueing from apple about getting to hot needs to much energy , just give the iMac the graphics power he deserved , its a nice idea to fit a fast quad and eight core processor inside , but the rest has to be as powerful to match

but i still believe in a bigger then 30 inch iMac to come soon