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another reason iphone wont be on verizon..

verizon wants to much control over the iphone .. they will want their logo to pop up when you turn on the phone ..

apple wont do that..
 
so does anyone know when/if the iPhone and Verizon will pair up?
Besides the exclusive contract to worry about, there's also the Verizon factor to worry about. Verizon turned them down in the beginning. This was mainly due to control issues, etc. There's no way to predict if Verizon and Apple will find a compromise that allows them to partner together.

I think Apple would do well selling full price, unlocked phones in various flavours.
The iPhone has sold more after it got subsidized by AT&T. Even though it's not very smart, economically speaking, this country wants subsidized phones. How many people do you know buy full price, unlocked phones?
All my co-workers have subsidized phones that they got for less than $10. Even with the 3G, they still thought it was expensive to buy the phone.

I'd personally would like an unlocked GSM iPhone. It'd be extremely convenient to slip in a foreign sim when I go traveling overseas. I have no interest in Verizon or Sprint, because neither can be used outside the US. Too isolationist for my tastes.
 
Verizon sucks... they have fisherprice cellphones and no Sim Cards. Not good by my standards.

What do you get when u have one control hungry company meeting another?? WW3 thats what, have u ever noticed Verizon is loaded with that crap FW.. how do you know your getting an accurate signal reading??
 
yeah, but what sucks is when you live in an area where the ONLY coverage is Verizon. Switching isn't an option if I want my phone to work at home. Verizon is my only game in town, and I hate them for it...:D
 
eastercat, that's not entirely true that you can not use a Verizon phone out of the USA. I just got back from Aruba. I used my Verizon Motorola V9m there. I had to call Verizon and have them activate international calling. The roaming is killer at 2 bucks a minute, but we wanted the kids to be able to call us if needed.

Why can't you put a sim card from say the Verizon Blackberry in an iPhone? Isn't a sim is a sim is a sim???
 
Apple & VZW

I think Apple selling phones without a carrier is to avoid VZW. VZW will probably never agree to WiFi. Look at the BB Storm. RIM was told 'No WiFi.
 
eastercat, that's not entirely true that you can not use a Verizon phone out of the USA. I just got back from Aruba. I used my Verizon Motorola V9m there. I had to call Verizon and have them activate international calling. The roaming is killer at 2 bucks a minute, but we wanted the kids to be able to call us if needed.
Sorry, I meant to write that you can't put a foreign sim into the Verizon so you can use it overseas at a reasonable price.
 
I think Apple selling phones without a carrier is to avoid VZW. VZW will probably never agree to WiFi. Look at the BB Storm. RIM was told 'No WiFi.

That sounds like a BGR myth. There are Verizon smartphones with WiFi.

AFAIK, Verizon has never removed WiFi that was designed into a CDMA phone. If Sprint has it, and other CDMA countries have it, then Verizon did as well. I would think it was left out of the Storm simply because there wasn't room with both CDMA and GSM radios already in it.

Personally, I prefer having WiFI available, but I've had EVDO smartphones without it, and didn't miss it as much as I thought I would.

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Sorry, I meant to write that you can't put a foreign sim into the Verizon so you can use it overseas at a reasonable price.

You can't do that with an iPhone either.

I don't like VZ because they don't use SIM cards. You'd have to go through them to get new phones and have them activate it.

You can activate phones online at vzw.com. I buy phones off eBay. Sometimes I've switched numbers between phones several times a day.

But yep, a SIM's much quicker.
 
I hope to God they bring it to VZW. I had to switch from ATT to VZW and am now stuck with a POS BB Storm :rolleyes:

I know VZW turned down Apple initially, but at this point Apple has proven they have the device everyone is chasing so I think VZW would bend over backwards to get Apple to bring the iPhone over.

I dont think the wifi thing or logos would be an issue. Like I said, I think VZW would acquiesce to whatever Apple wanted.

I dare say they would sell a million iPhones overnight on VZW.
 
No one flippin knows if, or when, it will be on Verizon. No one knows exactly how long the AT&T exclusivity agreement is or what Apple will do when it expires. Even Apple probably doesn't know yet. Why? Because they will negotiate the best possible exclusivity deal they can each time it comes up for renewal, and undoubtedly those negotiations are still ongoing. If AT&T keeps sliding them enough cash, it will stay a GSM-only phone. If Verizon coughs up big, then we will see a CDMA iPhone. I'd bet big bucks a CDMA prototype has existed for quite a while now. But whether it will come to fruition depends entirely on dollars and cents.

So let's put the speculation to rest and just wait and see, because that's all anyone can honestly do.
 
You can't do that with an iPhone either.
The people who created yellowsn0w would say otherwise. :p
However, even if you ignore that, there are legal, unlocked iPhones (in other countries) that can accept a foreign sim.

Apple has proven they have the device everyone is chasing so I think VZW would bend over backwards to get Apple to bring the iPhone over.
I have a hard time picturing this, but I'm willing to give Verizon the benefit of a doubt.
 
The 2012 thing is just everyone's guess. However, it will be after 2012 that Verizon drops CDMA and moves on to another platform.

I fought my daddy over Vietnam, hippies, music, drugs, sex, staying out all night, etc. If I could have added an iPhone to the list I would have but I just didn't have the opportunity...
 
I doubt it would ever hit other networks, other than being unlocked. Apple is making the right decision to stay with ATT. Their service has never been far from phenomenal since I had Cingular, and its a basic marketing advantage. If everyone wants one, you need to move to ATT and buy it. Both Apple and ATT win.

Kind of like the Madden series in the video game industry; no one else is allowed to make NFL games (hence why ESPN 2K series isn't being made anymore). Want to play football but hate Madden, go play Blitz or find ESPN Football 2K5 in the original Xbox bins.
 
No, unlocked iphones would work with any sim from any country.

Just a reminder... we're talking about the official Apple unlocked iPhones, not hacked ones.

Are you sure they can be used in any country? At first that was not true, and Apple said they'd goofed up, but I never heard anything after that.

We do know Apple priced them ridiculously high, to prevent them from being sold all over.

Thanks for any pointers to updated info!
 
Is the IPHONE moving away from exclusive AT&T contract any time soon?

I currently have a cell phone contract with Verizon, but I am looking to get an iPhone in the next few months. I'm waiting for the June announcements, and my current Verizon contract will be up over the summer as well - so I'm trying to time it all to be able to get an iPhone w/o paying a fee to cut my contract to Verizon.

My wife said she overheard some 'tech guys' at her company talking about how there is talk that the iPhone exclusive contract with AT&T is about to expire and/or change, and that it might be open to Verizon or other wireless carriers.

Is this true, or just a rumor at this point?

Thanks.
 
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