will the new mac pro be comparable to this?

[hansolo1999]

i would buy it today if apple made it and it run osx, now im just waiting..for the mac pro refresh and hope its at least this good, what do you think? will be be at least this good?
Base Features
Processor Type Intel Core i7-920
Processor Speed 2.66GHz
RAM 12 GB DDR3
Hard Drive Speed/Capacity 1 TB (7200 RPM) SATA
Optical Drives 16x Super Multi DVD±R/RW
Graphics ati 5850 1gb
Pre-loaded Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium
Graphics
Dedicated Video Memory No
Shared Video Memory No
TV Tuner No
Video Memory 1792 MB
Display
HDCP Compliant Not Applicable
Native Screen Resolution Not Applicable
Screen Size/Type Not Applicable
Audio
Audio Output HD Audio With 7.1-Channel Audio Support
Digital Input No
Digital Output No
Integrated Microphone No
Line Out Yes - Back
Line-In input Yes - Back
Microphone Input Yes - Front & Back
Sound Card Intel X58
Speaker Wattage Not Applicable
Speakers No
Networking
Ethernet Port Yes - RJ-45
Integrated Bluetooth No
Integrated WiFi No
Inputs/Outputs
Card Reader Yes - Multi-In-1
Component Output No
Composite Output No
DVI Output Yes
E-SATA Yes
FireWire (IEEE 1394) 2 - 1 Front, 1 Back
HDMI No
Keyboard Full-Size
Modem No
Mouse Standard
Remote No
S-Video Output No
USB 2.0 4 - Front, 6 - Back
VGA Output Yes
Webcam No
Computing Features
Available AGP Slots Not Applicable
Available Hard Drive Bays 3 Internal 3.5" (Available)
Available Memory Slots 6 Total (0 Available)
Available Optical Bays External 5.25" (1 Available)
Available PCI Slots Not Applicable
Available PCI-E Slots PCI Express X16 slot (1 Available, 1 Occupied), PCI Express X4 (1 Available), PCI Express X1 (1 Available)
Power Supply 750 Watts
Processor Cache 8 MB L2
Removable Storage No

 

[Umbongo]

Well the current Mac Pro has the same processor performance and can have the same amount of memory and storage. The difference is the graphics card, and the new Mac Pros will not likely have the 5850, but the 5870. probably won't have build in card reader or e-sata.

We don't really know what processor choices the 2010 single processor Mac Pros will have, it could be faster for the same money or faster for more money or continue with the same processors they use now with the only new processor (3.33GHz 6 core) as an extra option. A 2.80GHz model replaces current 2.66GHz Nehalem models (i7-920 and W3520) next week, so maybe the base Mac Pro would just be moved to that with new graphics cards.

 

[hansolo1999]

the waiting to know what this refresh will be like is passing so slow it seems like years, i have been saving the money for it for the last few years a little at a time and i want to spend it on the mac pro before my wife gets any weird ideas
would be good if 12 gb is standard and at least 1 tb hard drive, for the processor i think for sure it will be an i7

 

[Cindori]

you are totally clueless. i7? it's a desktop cpu, not workstation.

furthermore the next mac pro will contain a (or two) gulftown 6 core Xeon cpu

12gb standard won't happen. I'll bet 25% of the mac pro users arent using that much.

 

[G4DP]

Talk about lazy, couldn't even bother to remove coming with Windows 7 pre-installed.

Do some research and stop being a lazy ****!

 

[Techhie]

you are totally clueless. i7? it's a desktop cpu, not workstation.

furthermore the next mac pro will contain a (or two) gulftown 6 core Xeon cpu

12gb standard won't happen. I'll bet 25% of the mac pro users arent using that much.

If it lets Apple hike up their profit margin to (even more) ridiculous levels, dropping Xeon in favor for a desktop chip would be their first move (besides using the lowest-clocked RAM available for the chipset*cough)

 

[ildondeigiocchi]

i would buy it today if apple made it and it run osx, now im just waiting..for the mac pro refresh and hope its at least this good, what do you think? will be be at least this good?
Base Features
Processor Type Intel Core i7-920
Processor Speed 2.66GHz
RAM 12 GB DDR3
Hard Drive Speed/Capacity 1 TB (7200 RPM) SATA
Optical Drives 16x Super Multi DVD±R/RW
Graphics ati 5850 1gb
Pre-loaded Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium
Graphics
Dedicated Video Memory No
Shared Video Memory No
TV Tuner No
Video Memory 1792 MB
Display
HDCP Compliant Not Applicable
Native Screen Resolution Not Applicable
Screen Size/Type Not Applicable
Audio
Audio Output HD Audio With 7.1-Channel Audio Support
Digital Input No
Digital Output No
Integrated Microphone No
Line Out Yes - Back
Line-In input Yes - Back
Microphone Input Yes - Front & Back
Sound Card Intel X58
Speaker Wattage Not Applicable
Speakers No
Networking
Ethernet Port Yes - RJ-45
Integrated Bluetooth No
Integrated WiFi No
Inputs/Outputs
Card Reader Yes - Multi-In-1
Component Output No
Composite Output No
DVI Output Yes
E-SATA Yes
FireWire (IEEE 1394) 2 - 1 Front, 1 Back
HDMI No
Keyboard Full-Size
Modem No
Mouse Standard
Remote No
S-Video Output No
USB 2.0 4 - Front, 6 - Back
VGA Output Yes
Webcam No
Computing Features
Available AGP Slots Not Applicable
Available Hard Drive Bays 3 Internal 3.5" (Available)
Available Memory Slots 6 Total (0 Available)
Available Optical Bays External 5.25" (1 Available)
Available PCI Slots Not Applicable
Available PCI-E Slots PCI Express X16 slot (1 Available, 1 Occupied), PCI Express X4 (1 Available), PCI Express X1 (1 Available)
Power Supply 750 Watts
Processor Cache 8 MB L2
Removable Storage No

Wait for the refresh. Apple will convince you to buy a Pro.

 

[hansolo1999]

Wait for the refresh. Apple will convince you to buy a Pro.

ohh trust me, they dont have to convince me, i will only buy apple, there is no way that i would spend my hard earned money on any type of pc and windows, apple is the only way for me
i guess its just because after so many months of hard saving i finally have the money put away...now all i need is the refresh... but its not here, its going by to slow!!

 

[jav6454]

you are totally clueless. i7? it's a desktop cpu, not workstation.

furthermore the next mac pro will contain a (or two) gulftown 6 core Xeon cpu

12gb standard won't happen. I'll bet 25% of the mac pro users arent using that much.

I see standard an option for a 6-core Mac Pro at 3GB and an option for a 12-core (2 Gulftown Xeon counterparts) still at 6GB with BTOs up to 32GB.

The rest of system specs I expect the same except for the GPU, which I can see Apple using either the newer 5830 or 5850. In a twist of fate, the 5870.

 

[Techhie]

I see standard an option for a 6-core Mac Pro at 3GB and an option for a 12-core (2 Gulftown Xeon counterparts) still at 6GB with BTOs up to 32GB.

The rest of system specs I expect the same except for the GPU, which I can see Apple using either the newer 5830 or 5850. In a twist of fate, the 5870.

I don't know about this, the place Apple is in with the workstation market is either screwing them over (moreso than now) with profit margins, or realizing that they need to aggressively price/configure because the machine is being sold to the most aware of all their customer base.

They could either make an overhaul and/or lower the price, or they could make the least change possible and hike profits. Hopefully for those of us who rely on the Mac Pro, it will be the first one

 

[PrinceAvalon]

Despite how it once was in the older days, the Xeon isn't really indifferent from the desktop line.

Years ago sure they WERE different, the Xeon was a completely different fabrication and process altogether from the Pentiums. Now they're basically the same but what gets branded and i7 is usually the b- or c chips so it doesn't deserve the higher price and durability the name Xeon entails.

So the Xeons will yes still outrun a desktop in the long run if you get a good enough one and OC it enough you can match virtually the workstation level. However, one should not the server/workstation boards can allow 2 CPU's on the same board so if you run 2 there is likely no way you'll match that cause no desktop CPU can OC double or over 2x the standard clocks. Even if you use Liquid Nitrogen to cool, and Intels don't like that cold as much as AMD's do so you're even less likely to OC a single to trade blows with 2 WS grade CPU's.

Same is true with WS and Desktop graphics. Most of the desktop cards or alot anyways are the same board as the WS, it's not the hardware that makes the WS GPU's so pricey. It's the unparalleled drivers; way better written drivers, and support from the manufacturer you pay for.