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All iPads Will the next iPad Air 2 finally have 2 GB of memory?

yeah yeah yeah, and the next iphone will also sport a 2GB ram when all android phone and tablet already went 8gb as regular.

Apple is too cheap on spec even when ram and memory these days are so cheap. Starting at 32GB with the price of 16gb already!!! with what the Ipad can do compare to PC, it is already too expensive for a 499 with only 16GB.

If it was 2010 then maybe sell like hotcakes.
 
racoonboy said:
yeah yeah yeah, and the next iphone will also sport a 2GB ram when all android phone and tablet already went 8gb as regular.

Apple is too cheap on spec even when ram and memory these days are so cheap. Starting at 32GB with the price of 16gb already!!! with what the Ipad can do compare to PC, it is already too expensive for a 499 with only 16GB.

If it was 2010 then maybe sell like hotcakes.
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Apple is a business. Even if additional RAM cost only $1.00 more, 20 million iPads would cost them an additional 20 million dollars.
 
Plutonius said:
Apple is a business. Even if additional RAM cost only $1.00 more, 20 million iPads would cost them an additional 20 million dollars.
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And think how many more FULL priced iPads they will sell, when the 1gig of ram airs and rMinis can't keep up - when the only thing keeping them from keeping up is the lack of ram. That's not $20 million, that's billions.
 
karstas said:
if they will do some tricks with RAM management on iOS 8 like they did with mavericks, then there is possibility for 1GB RAM. However knowing how much there are bad coded websites, apps that 1GB RAM is too low for 2014 and later.
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racoonboy said:
yeah yeah yeah, and the next iphone will also sport a 2GB ram when all android phone and tablet already went 8gb as regular.

Apple is too cheap on spec even when ram and memory these days are so cheap. Starting at 32GB with the price of 16gb already!!! with what the Ipad can do compare to PC, it is already too expensive for a 499 with only 16GB.

If it was 2010 then maybe sell like hotcakes.
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You're talking about storage. The discussion is about RAM.
 
Dmunjal said:
The screen uses so much more power than RAM that I doubt the difference between 1GB and 2GB even matters.
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RAM power usage scales linearly with capacity. 2gb consumes twice the power of 1gb. While the screen backlight is easily the highest power consuming component on the device, all other components add up in their power usage. Apple won't double up on a component and increase RAM usage unless they have a real reason to do so. Regardless of your thoughts on whether 1gb is enough or not, the current gen iPads still run great on 1gb and still scores highly or tops most reviews.
Me personally, I would like to see them increase RAM on the iPads, not because of current deficiencies but because of the possibilities an increase in RAM would open up.
 
goobot said:
The reason i didn't buy the Air was because it only had 1 Gig of Ram, I want a device that can last past one os update.
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Me too. I was planning to get an iPad Air for iMovie work as well as a few games, but the 1Gb of RAM ended up pushing me into just buying an iMac for better video editing, as well as much better gaming (I was going to be buying an iMac in a few years time, so the iPad pushed me into getting it now).
 
goobot said:
The reason i didn't buy the Air was because it only had 1 Gig of Ram, I want a device that can last past one os update.
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How did you determine that the Air would only last through one OS update due to RAM? The iPad 2 only had 512MB and those are still in heavy use and doing just fine. It seems to be a safari problem more than actual physical RAM. Tons of apps run perfectly good on the Air.
 
Dmunjal said:
The screen uses so much more power than RAM that I doubt the difference between 1GB and 2GB even matters.
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During 'On' time you are correct, however as mentioned, 2x the RAM nominally equals twice the power consumption so just doubling the RAM would effectively halve the standby time. 30-day standby is a hallmark of the iPad, and Apple isn't going to just give that up lightly.
 
zhenya said:
During 'On' time you are correct, however as mentioned, 2x the RAM nominally equals twice the power consumption so just doubling the RAM would effectively halve the standby time. 30-day standby is a hallmark of the iPad, and Apple isn't going to just give that up lightly.
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Not quite true. 2 x the RAM would use twice the power at the RAM component but all other components would still use the same amount of power. It's hard to quantify without know percentage of power use in a given device is by RAM but it may equal something like a 5 - 10% decrease in standby/run time. That figure is pure speculation but as we know, more RAM will use more power and that is something Apple try to avoid where possible.
 
Donka said:
Not quite true. 2 x the RAM would use twice the power at the RAM component but all other components would still use the same amount of power. It's hard to quantify without know percentage of power use in a given device is by RAM but it may equal something like a 5 - 10% decrease in standby/run time. That figure is pure speculation but as we know, more RAM will use more power and that is something Apple try to avoid where possible.
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The whole point of standby is that everything else is shut down. During that period, RAM is by far the largest power consumer and the change would be far closer to double the power use than just 5%.
 
zhenya said:
The whole point of standby is that everything else is shut down. During that period, RAM is by far the largest power consumer and the change would be far closer to double the power use than just 5%.
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Sorry, my bad. I didn't read your reply in context. :eek:
 
zhenya said:
The whole point of standby is that everything else is shut down. During that period, RAM is by far the largest power consumer and the change would be far closer to double the power use than just 5%.
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True. But if there's one thing on iPad that's over-engineered it is the battery. It lasts forever! I'm sure most would give up 10% of battery life for another gig of RAM.
 
Dmunjal said:
True. But if there's one thing on iPad that's over-engineered it is the battery. It lasts forever! I'm sure most would give up 10% of battery life for another gig of RAM.
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I too would give up 10% of the run-time battery. I'm not so sure I'd give up 50% of the standby however, as that's one of the things that makes the iPad such an ideal device. I never have to worry about the battery. I can leave it at 20% for days and know that I don't need to bother to charge it because the sleep drain is virtually nil and 20% means hours of run time still.

I have some of the newer Android tablets with larger amounts of RAM and they have significantly larger sleep drains - some of them at 10-15% per day. That changes how you use the device when you know that you need to get it on a charger soon when you are below 30-40%. My iPad finds a charger less than once per week.
 
zhenya said:
I too would give up 10% of the run-time battery. I'm not so sure I'd give up 50% of the standby however, as that's one of the things that makes the iPad such an ideal device. I never have to worry about the battery. I can leave it at 20% for days and know that I don't need to bother to charge it because the sleep drain is virtually nil and 20% means hours of run time still.

I have some of the newer Android tablets with larger amounts of RAM and they have significantly larger sleep drains - some of them at 10-15% per day. That changes how you use the device when you know that you need to get it on a charger soon when you are below 30-40%. My iPad finds a charger less than once per week.
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You can't compare iOS to Android. IOS has a much better sleep mode and Android is doing a lot more when sleeping. But I doubt it would affect it by more than an hour or two if Apple added another gig of RAM.
 
racoonboy said:
Yup and guess how much they would make selling 20 million Ipads.
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They are selling x million iPads today with the current specifications.. Unless apple feels like they can sell more than the current x million iPads by increasing RAM, they will just take a hit on their margins for no (financial) gain for themselves. That makes no sense for a global corporation.
 
I'm not saying Apple shouldn't add more ram to their products but for the people that are comparing other competitor's products having more ram is just ridiculous. Did it ever occur to anyone that MAYBE just MAYBE those competitor's products NEED that extra ram? I'm sure this definitely applies to Windows 8 on Surface and it's very possible that Android requires more ram for decent performance. Who says that Apple's competitor's Tablets are just as efficient at handling ram as the iPad?
 
HenryDJP said:
I'm not saying Apple shouldn't add more ram to their products but for the people that are comparing other competitor's products having more ram is just ridiculous. Did it ever occur to anyone that MAYBE just MAYBE those competitor's products NEED that extra ram? I'm sure this definitely applies to Windows 8 on Surface and it's very possible that Android requires more ram for decent performance. Who says that Apple's competitor's Tablets are just as efficient at handling ram as the iPad?
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That's not the issue. Android and Windows 8 do a lot more than iOS does as an OS. Yes, those OS's need more RAM because they are doing more. Over time, Apple will add more functionality to iOS and will need more RAM. Some would say that iOS 7 is already there and future versions will require even more. 2GB today is investment protection for the next version of iOS which will likely have better multitasking and other memory-using features.
 
Dmunjal said:
That's not the issue. Android and Windows 8 do a lot more than iOS does as an OS. Yes, those OS's need more RAM because they are doing more. Over time, Apple will add more functionality to iOS and will need more RAM. Some would say that iOS 7 is already there and future versions will require even more. 2GB today is investment protection for the next version of iOS which will likely have better multitasking and other memory-using features.
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Well you actually indirectly made my point. I was making a general point that there's a reason for the competitor's Tablets having more ram. It's not just to show who's got better specs, it's most likely being used so it's a poor example for people here to use against the iPad.

As far as "investment protection", I'm sorry but I had to laugh a bit on that one. Apple, nor any other company that believes in moving the industry forward is not going to create portable products with plenty enough specs for "investment protection". I will say that I wish I could be able to BTO more ram into my iPad purchases but that's not happening. They certainly aren't in the business of doing that and even Microsoft is finally getting it. They've probably lost a fortune keeping people on XP for so long.
 
s2mikey said:
How did you determine that the Air would only last through one OS update due to RAM? The iPad 2 only had 512MB and those are still in heavy use and doing just fine. It seems to be a safari problem more than actual physical RAM. Tons of apps run perfectly good on the Air.
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My iPad 1 started on 3.2, Half of the new features of iOS 4 were already on it. So iOS 4 was really half a major update, then iOS 5. It never went passed 5 and while on 5 runs like garbage, Safari crashes after loading just one webpage. All because apple cheaped out on RAM. It had half the Ram than the iPhone 4 which released 2 months later and ran the same A4 chip.
 
goobot said:
My iPad 1 started on 3.2, Half of the new features of iOS 4 were already on it. So iOS 4 was really half a major update, then iOS 5. It never went passed 5 and while on 5 runs like garbage, Safari crashes after loading just one webpage. All because apple cheaped out on RAM. It had half the Ram than the iPhone 4 which released 2 months later and ran the same A4 chip.
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Safari crashes because of the JavaScript engine which is currently *****. 7.1 is better but still has issues caused by JS.
 
MartinAppleGuy said:
Me too. I was planning to get an iPad Air for iMovie work as well as a few games, but the 1Gb of RAM ended up pushing me into just buying an iMac for better video editing, as well as much better gaming (I was going to be buying an iMac in a few years time, so the iPad pushed me into getting it now).
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you just made the folks at apple who decided to only put in 1 gig of ram, VERY HAPPY.
 
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