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How did you determine that the Air would only last through one OS update due to RAM? The iPad 2 only had 512MB and those are still in heavy use and doing just fine. It seems to be a safari problem more than actual physical RAM. Tons of apps run perfectly good on the Air.

....As long as it's just one app at a time. They certainly aren't running *well* simultaneously, right? :)
 
Apple can't appease both power users and average users with the same specs and the same price tag. Apple needs to add a build-to-order option like they have for Macs. They need to let users customize the base specs with additional RAM.
 
Apple can't appease both power users and average users with the same specs and the same price tag. Apple needs to add a build-to-order option like they have for Macs. They need to let users customize the base specs with additional RAM.

Average users probably wouldn't notice increased RAM. However, "power" users notice a lack of it. Therefore, adding more doesn't seem to have a drawback for either side.
 
Average users probably wouldn't notice increased RAM. However, "power" users notice a lack of it. Therefore, adding more doesn't seem to have a drawback for either side.

The obvious implication is a higher price tag. Average users care more about a lower price.
 
Not really, but planned obsolescence is. Once iOS on the iPad graduates past grade school, the current air and rMini are not going to be brought along. The only thing holding them back will be RAM.

I do agree. I also hate that Apple called the iPhone 5S the "most forward thinking iPhone". With the lack of a RAM upgrade and the supposed 30% increase in RAM footprint, this iPhone will last as long as the iPhone 5 (as RAM will become the bottleneck, not the CPU/GPU performance), but the iPhone 5 was release one year earlier.
 
It will have 5GB of RAM,so the people who said 64 bit is pointless unless you have 4GB of RAM can climb back under their rock
 
....As long as it's just one app at a time. They certainly aren't running *well* simultaneously, right? :)

Well, I'm not sure about most users but when I'm playing Real Racing or HearthStone I'm not usually also surfing, checking email, or whatever else so it's fair to say that I'm using these apps by themselves. Honestly, multitasking is sort of over stated and it's importance on a tablet is dubious.

That being said, safari has been stable for me but many people have had trouble with it. Not sure what's going on but it needs work.
 
Well, I'm not sure about most users but when I'm playing Real Racing or HearthStone I'm not usually also surfing, checking email, or whatever else so it's fair to say that I'm using these apps by themselves. Honestly, multitasking is sort of over stated and it's importance on a tablet is dubious.

That being said, safari has been stable for me but many people have had trouble with it. Not sure what's going on but it needs work.

I agree with all this. Wholesale multitasking is not required on the iPad imho. Push and notifications take care of things like emails in the background. Most applications will continue to work in the background while you are in another app.
I do see though on occasion when it would be beneficial to have two apps open side by side - handy for studying etc. and this is a feature I would love to see Apple integrate in IOS but on the whole, the iPad is a great experience for me.
 
Well, I'm not sure about most users but when I'm playing Real Racing or HearthStone I'm not usually also surfing, checking email, or whatever else so it's fair to say that I'm using these apps by themselves. Honestly, multitasking is sort of over stated and it's importance on a tablet is dubious.

That being said, safari has been stable for me but many people have had trouble with it. Not sure what's going on but it needs work.

You misunderstand. I'd just like Safari to be able to not refresh its tabs after switching to another app. Heck, I'd like Safari to be able to not refresh its tabs when I switch to another tab!
 
Apple's history shows that it only increases RAM when a device needs it. Apple could very well focus on optimization and performance in iOS 8, and keep 1GB RAM in the A8.

Since the RAM amount directly corresponds to standby battery life, the iWatch should have as little RAM as possible. Since the iWatch will run full iOS, iOS 8 should be heavily optimized for small amounts of RAM. Apple may finally upgrade to 2GB RAM in 2015.
 
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You misunderstand. I'd just like Safari to be able to not refresh its tabs after switching to another app. Heck, I'd like Safari to be able to not refresh its tabs when I switch to another tab!

No, I got ya. I was just referring to multitasking in general and how it's pretty over rated on a personal tablet. As for safari reloads and crashes, no doubt it's a problem for some people but I still don't believe it's a physical RAM issue. It's safari and it's lousy memory handling and java engine. If they fix that I'd bet most of these problems go away.

Also, adding RAM and doing nothing else doesn't fix the problem and the root cause. It's like throwing a larger bandage on a gaping wound. Still bleeding but a little less oozes out of the bandage area. ;)
 
No, I got ya. I was just referring to multitasking in general and how it's pretty over rated on a personal tablet. As for safari reloads and crashes, no doubt it's a problem for some people but I still don't believe it's a physical RAM issue. It's safari and it's lousy memory handling and java engine. If they fix that I'd bet most of these problems go away.

Also, adding RAM and doing nothing else doesn't fix the problem and the root cause. It's like throwing a larger bandage on a gaping wound. Still bleeding but a little less oozes out of the bandage area. ;)

Why does it take over six months for Apple to fix a memory bug? A company with more resources than any other company on Earth.
 
Why does it take over six months for Apple to fix a memory bug? A company with more resources than any other company on Earth.

Because its not a bug, the Air just lacks RAM and refreshes happen. Thats it.
 
I agree. It seems others keep saying it's a bug.

Exactly. Apple engineers have indeed fixed the bugs in safari. iOS 7 safari uses an updated engine which uses more RAM but at the same time increases page load speed. In addition, on the iPad Air, a 64 bit web browser running on a 64 bit OS uses more RAM. One example of this is the Windows 8.1 system requirements: the 64 bit OS requires 2GB RAM, the 32 bit OS requires 1GB RAM. And combine all this with the fact that some unoptimized websites use a ton of memory. There is nothing to fix, the reloading issue is simply a lack of RAM.
 
Why does it take over six months for Apple to fix a memory bug? A company with more resources than any other company on Earth.

I'm not sure but I do believe they are being rather slow about this. There is obviously something going on. However, to be fair, perhaps they aren't fixing it quickly because it's harder to nail down than we understand it to be? It doesn't affect everyone either which just makes it harder. Not defending the issue, just offering an idea as to why it doesn't seem to be getting the attention it should.

If it was purely RAM, wouldn't all of us be having various issues? We aren't though. That's what's not making sense.
 
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