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Will there an updated mini or Apple will cut off this product line?

j2ee

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Look like Apple doesn't even want to care this mini line, may be because the profit is nothing close to others Apple products? If Apple cuts mini off, then it forces people to buy at least around $1000 imac or macbook. That is like almost 300% of a mini, sound like much more profitable.
 
j2ee said:
Look like Apple doesn't even want to care this mini line, may be because the profit is nothing close to others Apple products? If Apple cuts mini off, then it forces people to buy at least around $1000 imac or macbook. That is like almost 300% of a mini, sound like much more profitable.
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Many of us on these forums (and elsewhere) are wondering about Apple's intentions. Especially in this here super duper mega Mac Mini thread. ;)
 
Even if Apple makes a new Mini, which I doubt, having watched Apple'store behavior since 1979, their increasingly walled garden approach will make it less attractive to me than previous Minis.
I think no matter where they go, they'll be losing a lot of us long time customers.
The whole ecosystem is a disincentive to buy Apple.
 
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goodcow said:
No, it just means I'll build a Hackintosh, and they won't get any money from me then.
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I think the main problem with Hackintosh is it would not have OS update as often or as easy as normal kind, then it is painful especially developing ios app.
 
Few know the answer to the OP's question.
And those that do, ain't talkin' about it!
 
Even if there is new mini, should be much more expensive.
 
j2ee said:
I think the main problem with Hackintosh is it would not have OS update as often or as easy as normal kind, then it is painful especially developing ios app.
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I update my hack just like a normal Mac on point releases.

Yearly releases are good to reinstall fresh and use a clone copy from previous version to reload files and apps with Mac utilities.
 
j2ee said:
Even if there is new mini, should be much more expensive.
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Depends what you are want, and how you look at it. Higher specs can add considerably to the cost…. Choose specs to suit your needs rather then your desire.

My first base model Mac Mini set me back about 25,000 baht ($US 738) at today's exchange rate) in 2005. Add on another 4,000 to licence Office for Mac) at the total was up to 29,000 baht…… A plate of fried rice could be had for 25 baht back then.

For my 2009 Mac Mini it was also about 29,000 baht, all up, but came with better specs….. 24,000 for the base model and 5,000 baht for iWork. An upgrade to OS X 10 and an additional 4 GB of RAM 4 years on cost another 5,000 baht. An acquaintance had a spare copy of Office for Mac, which I got for free, but seldom use. Pages, Numbers and occasionally Keynote are fine for me…… A plate of fried rice was up to about 30 baht in 2009.

Nowadays a base model Mac Mini (4GB RAM and 500GB HDD) can be had for 19,000 baht, and the mid range (8GB RAM and 1TB HDD) is about 26,000 baht. They all come with the latest version of Mac OS and iWork apps, with updates being free…… A plate of fried rice currently kicks in at about 50 baht…… My pay has gone up just 12% over the same dozen years!

Looks like better value for money to me, though it does depend on your basis of comparison. Other computers can be had for less, but add 5,000 baht baht for Windows 10 and 6,000 baht for Office (about $325 all up). Sure, Linux OS and some alternative productivity apps can be had for free, if you don't mind a few hassles that come with them.

And to answer your thread title question, the Mac Mini is still on sale, and Apple has indicted that it will be updated.
 
Micky Do said:
Depends what you are want, and how you look at it. Higher specs can add considerably to the cost…. Choose specs to suit your needs rather then your desire.

My first base model Mac Mini set me back about 25,000 baht ($US 738) at today's exchange rate) in 2005. Add on another 4,000 to licence Office for Mac) at the total was up to 29,000 baht…… A plate of fried rice could be had for 25 baht back then.

For my 2009 Mac Mini it was also about 29,000 baht, all up, but came with better specs….. 24,000 for the base model and 5,000 baht for iWork. An upgrade to OS X 10 and an additional 4 GB of RAM 4 years on cost another 5,000 baht. An acquaintance had a spare copy of Office for Mac, which I got for free, but seldom use. Pages, Numbers and occasionally Keynote are fine for me…… A plate of fried rice was up to about 30 baht in 2009.

Nowadays a base model Mac Mini (4GB RAM and 500GB HDD) can be had for 19,000 baht, and the mid range (8GB RAM and 1TB HDD) is about 26,000 baht. They all come with the latest version of Mac OS and iWork apps, with updates being free…… A plate of fried rice currently kicks in at about 50 baht…… My pay has gone up just 12% over the same dozen years!

Looks like better value for money to me, though it does depend on your basis of comparison. Other computers can be had for less, but add 5,000 baht baht for Windows 10 and 6,000 baht for Office (about $325 all up). Sure, Linux OS and some alternative productivity apps can be had for free, if you don't mind a few hassles that come with them.

And to answer your thread title question, the Mac Mini is still on sale, and Apple has indicted that it will be updated.
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I dont remember Apple indicated there will be an updated mini or what will happen to mini. They just said there will be a new mac pro.
 
j2ee said:
I dont remember Apple indicated there will be an updated mini or what will happen to mini. They just said there will be a new mac pro.
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Yes, they did say that they are working on a new Mac Pro. Phill Schiller also said this:

"On that I'll say the Mac Mini is an important product in our lineup and we weren't bringing it up because it's more of a mix of consumer with some pro use. … The Mac Mini remains a product in our lineup, but nothing more to say about it today."

……. Which does suggest that there will be an updated Mac Mini at some stage, though gives no indication of when. Most updates have come without much fanfare.
 
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Micky Do said:
Yes, they did say that they are working on a new Mac Pro. Phill Schiller also said this:

"On that I'll say the Mac Mini is an important product in our lineup and we weren't bringing it up because it's more of a mix of consumer with some pro use. … The Mac Mini remains a product in our lineup, but nothing more to say about it today."

……. Which does suggest that there will be an updated Mac Mini at some stage, though gives no indication of when. Most updates have come without much fanfare.
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The wording kind of imply they would not remove mini, update or not hard to say lol
 
Micky Do said:
……. Which does suggest that there will be an updated Mac Mini at some stage, though gives no indication of when. Most updates have come without much fanfare.
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I don't see anything in that statement that suggests they will update the Mini. And at the same event he said Apple had a "two prong desktop strategy" that includes the Mac Pro and iMac. That does not suggest much of a future for the Mini. ;)
 
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Boyd01 said:
I don't see anything in that statement that suggests they will update the Mini. And at the same event he said Apple had a "two prong desktop strategy" that includes the Mac Pro and iMac. That does not suggest much of a future for the Mini. ;)
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Yeah I think what he said just means...mini is still there in the line up as we all know, but nothing more than that.
 
Boyd01 said:
I don't see anything in that statement that suggests they will update the Mini. And at the same event he said Apple had a "two prong desktop strategy" that includes the Mac Pro and iMac. That does not suggest much of a future for the Mini. ;)
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On the other hand, given that he said that the Mac Mini is an important product in the lineup, with a mix of consumer and some pro use, it does not suggest that it is about to be dropped any time soon….. Given the development of other Macs, which tend to precede the Mini, it does suggest something in the offing for the Mini.
 
Micky Do said:
On the other hand, given that he said that the Mac Mini is an important product in the lineup, with a mix of consumer and some pro use, it does not suggest that it is about to be dropped any time soon….. Given the development of other Macs, which tend to precede the Mini, it does suggest something in the offing for the Mini.
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He doesn't sound like Mini would be disappeared from Apple Store soon.
 
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It will be updated. But likely not before the iMac Pro is available. Maybe even after the Mac Pro is in the stores.
It will be Kaby Lake and thus TB3 and as the OS (High Sierra) has full support for it by then, it will also be possible to have an external GPU. They don't want to be in a position where the Mini is "better" than the iMac.

I think I'd be OK if Apple soldered the RAM, but allowed for after-sales upgrades of the SSD. Even if it had to be done by them or an Authorized Partner.

I just really like the form-factor.
 
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MRrainer said:
It will be updated. But likely not before the iMac Pro is available. Maybe even after the Mac Pro is in the stores.
It will be Kaby Lake and thus TB3 and as the OS (High Sierra) has full support for it by then, it will also be possible to have an external GPU. They don't want to be in a position where the Mini is "better" than the iMac.

I think I'd be OK if Apple soldered the RAM, but allowed for after-sales upgrades of the SSD. Even if it had to be done by them or an Authorized Partner.

I just really like the form-factor.
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And all you said is based on your imagination
 
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MRrainer said:
It will be updated. But likely not before the iMac Pro is available. Maybe even after the Mac Pro is in the stores.
It will be Kaby Lake and thus TB3 and as the OS (High Sierra) has full support for it by then, it will also be possible to have an external GPU. They don't want to be in a position where the Mini is "better" than the iMac.
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If Apple keeps the Mini, I would not be surprised if they left Thunderbolt off the next revision for that very reason. I think they might decide that since the one weakest link (and most historically non-upgradable) subsystem on the Mini was the GPU, support for eGPUs with TB3 under High Sierra would lead to Mini sales cannibalizing other sales higher up in their product line. With that, the Mini could actually be a decent if not fantastic gaming rig. Not sure that's what Apple wants.

Not making a prediction, mind you, but it would not surprise me if this came to pass.
 
ziggy29 said:
If Apple keeps the Mini, I would not be surprised if they left Thunderbolt off the next revision for that very reason. I think they might decide that since the one weakest link (and most historically non-upgradable) subsystem on the Mini was the GPU, support for eGPUs with TB3 under High Sierra would lead to Mini sales cannibalizing other sales higher up in their product line. With that, the Mini could actually be a decent if not fantastic gaming rig. Not sure that's what Apple wants.

Not making a prediction, mind you, but it would not surprise me if this came to pass.
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Well, there's always the Core-M series of CPUs....

Too bad. Nothing comes close to running VMs in Fusion. Though you can actually run a dev-VM also on an Core-M7, if you have 8GB of RAM.
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j2ee said:
And all you said is based on your imagination
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Probably half the postings in this sub are just that.

Why single me out?
;-)
 
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Micky Do said:
On the other hand, given that he said that the Mac Mini is an important product in the lineup, with a mix of consumer and some pro use, it does not suggest that it is about to be dropped any time soon….. Given the development of other Macs, which tend to precede the Mini, it does suggest something in the offing for the Mini.
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In corporate speak, it translates to: "We have decided to discontinue the mini, but are not prepared to make that announcement at this time."
 
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Micky Do said:
Does it really….?
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Things are proceeding pretty much along the same lines as they have been since 1984.
When Apple's decide to terminate a product, they often just go silent about it.
It's a good way to clear out current inventory. Leaves some folk pretty pissed though, when they're among the "last to buy".
 
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