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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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Even a blind person can read that writing on the wall. Face it people, the mini has already been EOL'd but because Apple respects its customers SO MUCH, they did not think it was necessary to tell us.
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I totally agree. TLC is total crap and Samsung Pro rules all. I cannot stand TLC and believe me, it will never touch any computer of mine.
Then Apple doesn't care about selling to my extended family and friends.
My in-laws Mac Mini is getting VERY long in the tooth, even with the updates I've done with RAM and Storage. Ain't NO WAY, are they getting the current Mac Mini, and they already have a nice monitor. So soon it might be back to Windows for them, Thanks Tim!!
Luckily I got my mother the quad 2012 Mac Mini, so she is set for a long while still. Also has a nice monitor and has said she's never dealing with an iMac again, because of the stupid notion of throwing away the monitor with the computer. To which I wholeheartedly agree
because of the stupid notion of throwing away the monitor with the computer. To which I wholeheartedly agree
Exactly. Which is better ecologically, Tim Cook, the monitor you had to sic your recyclobot on because it was prematurely end-of-lifed because you glued it to a machine that couldn't be upgraded, or the monitor that didn't get recycled because it wasn't built because it wasn't really needed?
[doublepost=1497208613][/doublepost]Incidentally, while I'm at it, the new Mac mini is almost certainly coming.
I agree. Except for one thing. The new mini is not coming. What MAY come is a dummied down new mac pro with no vid card, etc. Maybe even a half height kind of thing. Which would, in its own way, make it a... wait for it... mini.
True, I could use just about any computer made in the past 8 years to do what I want….Okay, but I wasn't replying to you...
You could probably just use any computer made in the past 8 years to do what you want. No idea why you're even on a tech forum given what you've said.
And I am using a now more than 8 year old, early 2009 Mac Mini, which fits my desire for something easily occasionally transportable (though I don't want a portable) that runs OS X/MacOS (and associated apps) and is relatively economical and hassle free to own and use for my humble needs.
That is why my first computer was the first Mac Mini in 2005, and why my next computer will almost certainly be a Mac….. Though with the possibility of a more itinerant phase coming up in my life, and a change in work pattern, it may be that I go for a low spec MacBook Air to supplement the Mac Mini. That (the Mini) will hopefully soldier on another couple of years, by which stage replacement will almost certainly be more cost effective and practical than repair/maintenance.
No idea why you scathingly suggest that I have no place on this forum, which is about Mac Mini matters in general, not just tech.
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"Except for one thing. The new mini is not coming. What MAY come is a dummied down new mac pro with no vid card, etc. Maybe even a half height kind of thing. Which would, in its own way, make it a... wait for it... mini."
I fully agree with this - as Apple wants you to forget the error of their ways when you "received more for less" - thus the Mini re-branded with attitude as in " so you want a headless Mac real bad huh" - well then, pay through the nose! Which in terms of gains will be light years beyond the 2014 - but somehow they will constrain you in creative ways where each thing you want is just out of reach in the next tier - and so on as we still end up paying 3 times the cost to do what can be done for less in addition to aggressive obsolescence.
Or, how about just one box and you pay license fees to turn on additional capability or unlock horsepower ... it's creepy how we get advancements with incremental less fun each time.
I fully agree with this - as Apple wants you to forget the error of their ways when you "received more for less" - thus the Mini re-branded with attitude as in " so you want a headless Mac real bad huh" - well then, pay through the nose! Which in terms of gains will be light years beyond the 2014 - but somehow they will constrain you in creative ways where each thing you want is just out of reach in the next tier - and so on as we still end up paying 3 times the cost to do what can be done for less in addition to aggressive obsolescence.
Or, how about just one box and you pay license fees to turn on additional capability or unlock horsepower ... it's creepy how we get advancements with incremental less fun each time.
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There are, IMHO, a goodly number of current Mac users who are pretty much hanging on with Apple by a thread. If Apple pulls some cute little tricks like you suggest with the configuration of whatever headless system, or systems, it comes up with in order to maximize profit on the backs of their user base they might see a number of people say "**** it! I'm outta here!" and go back to some sort of Windows or Linux (or combination thereof) setup. I can indeed see Apple doing this, brain-dead and profit-driven as they've become, and not caring that whatever soul a company can be said to have will have died. Apple was a computer company at one time, and has become a techno-fashion company. I will miss using a nicely-designed computer that did, indeed, "just work" more often than not.
... and the cost to say "I'm outta here" will be a functional ecosystem that's lost - further, any loss of this functionality after I've fully embraced the Apple "construct" will represent a step backwards in the total functionality of my digital life which is unacceptable at this age where tinkering has lost its charm.
No - we'll pay through the nose, and you know as well as I do if there's a viable path to continue the life we're building for ourselves we'll pursue it until there's no pavement left and some will soldier-on through the brush until they hear no footsteps following them.
Like many, I'm a Mac (not Apple) soldier since the beginning - played with sounds as though it was code in the beginning - kept my post while they switched architectures - lovingly laughed when they brought the bondi-blue - built my library with a Quadra, launched my business with the highly respected G5 and got real smart with the Mini building redundancy and distributing the workload amongst 2 identical 2012 Minis and one older (Guest) Mini.
It's now a way of life - if I have to wait a few iterations while Apple gets its act together well then ...
... and should Apple fail to come around in a year or two - well, I've had this thought for some time!
it's getting old sittin here with this keyboard - yes, I love having control as each thought and character strikes the page but honestly once we cross the limitation of keyboard input (which may not be a limitation for some but rather the thing that humanizes the task at hand) the desktop will die.
Perhaps the whole idea of stopping to collect your thoughts and taking time to formulate a thought will become old-school with VR, Siri and AR - more of us will just belch forward our ideas - ya know like Trump.
No - we'll pay through the nose, and you know as well as I do if there's a viable path to continue the life we're building for ourselves we'll pursue it until there's no pavement left and some will soldier-on through the brush until they hear no footsteps following them.
Like many, I'm a Mac (not Apple) soldier since the beginning - played with sounds as though it was code in the beginning - kept my post while they switched architectures - lovingly laughed when they brought the bondi-blue - built my library with a Quadra, launched my business with the highly respected G5 and got real smart with the Mini building redundancy and distributing the workload amongst 2 identical 2012 Minis and one older (Guest) Mini.
It's now a way of life - if I have to wait a few iterations while Apple gets its act together well then ...
... and should Apple fail to come around in a year or two - well, I've had this thought for some time!
it's getting old sittin here with this keyboard - yes, I love having control as each thought and character strikes the page but honestly once we cross the limitation of keyboard input (which may not be a limitation for some but rather the thing that humanizes the task at hand) the desktop will die.
Perhaps the whole idea of stopping to collect your thoughts and taking time to formulate a thought will become old-school with VR, Siri and AR - more of us will just belch forward our ideas - ya know like Trump.
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I replaced my Mac about 6 months ago with a Skull Canyon NUC and it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought switching platforms. There were several programs I regularly use that I had to replace, but that wasn't too painful. Windows has come a long way and while I still prefer OS X (and use it at work along with Windows) I still have the ecosystem for my iPad and iPhone, but even that is kind of overrated to be honest.
I'm sitting here right now - like most days, as my girl pulls her hair out with her top-tier, corporate-strength, locked down, secure PC - attempting to work from home, if it's not this problem it's that problem - most days she talks to tech support more than her clients.
Did they really? And no journalist has asked Apple about this?
W00t?
3 years old something hardware...it is like Apple actually sells the OS instead of the hardware..
It's just not of interest. In John Gruber's Talk Show he (and the audience) had a chance to ask Phil Schiller about the Mini and they didn't - during the Mac Pro round table a few weeks ago he forgot to ask about the Mini. Schiller at least volunteered that for professional use the Mac Pro came in third behind iMac and Macbook Pro.
So one of the following must be true:
a. Fewer pros use a Mac Mini than a Mac Pro
b. Apple don't consider a Mac Mini to be pro (therefore its numbers don't count).
which at this point would be ideal if they'd only license it.
defining "Pro" is somewhat "the" problem ... what constitutes "pro" the power of the device or the power of the output you produce .... who undertakes upgrading a device vs who undertakes buying a more powerful device is hardly a requirement in either case to be a "professional".
You replied to me replying to someone else, and went on (as always) about how the Mac Mini in any form is good enough for you.
Okay? If it's good enough for you, and all your needs are met, and you have no interest in a new Mini or any changes to its features/design... What conversation is there to have? Why reply to us when we're talking about what we want from the Mini just to tell us that you don't need anything right now?
"Scathingly"? Don't be so dramatic.
Simply pointing out that I don't personally understand your time commitment in something that you claim is already perfectly good and that you have no enthusiast desires for.
I'm happy for you that everything is great -- that's what we're all after, here. Just enjoy it!
Personally, I want the Mini to not have 3 year old components and zero upgrade-ability sold at a premium price.
If the new "pro" display has more than 4k, mini will need TB4 to drive it... and if there ever be a new mac mini (which, of course, is almost certainly coming
), it will be the last to have TB4.If there ever will be TB4 (which is more certainly coming..)..
The new apple display will almost certainly use the same panel than iMP...
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Given that this is a public forum, surely you should expect responses from various quarters and points of view….. My contribution to the may be more down to earth than the fantasies of some here, many of whom claim to have lost interest in the Mac Mini, and Macs in general. Is that reason to be curtly told that I have no place in the conversation?You replied to me replying to someone else, and went on (as always) about how the Mac Mini in any form is good enough for you.
Okay? If it's good enough for you, and all your needs are met, and you have no interest in a new Mini or any changes to its features/design... What conversation is there to have? Why reply to us when we're talking about what we want from the Mini just to tell us that you don't need anything right now?
"Scathingly"? Don't be so dramatic.
Simply pointing out that I don't personally understand your time commitment in something that you claim is already perfectly good and that you have no enthusiast desires for.
I'm happy for you that everything is great -- that's what we're all after, here. Just enjoy it!
Personally, I want the Mini to not have 3 year old components and zero upgrade-ability sold at a premium price.
Yes, my needs are still met by an aged modestly specced Mac Mini, but that doesn't mean I am not interested in developments. In due course I will replace it.
The new iMacs and MacBooks give some indication of where the new Mac Mini might go, but it is almost certain that updates will be evolutionary rather than revolutionary; fine for the average Joe or Jill seeking something practical for modest everyday use. However, penny pinching wannabe power users and geeks after bragging rights could well be as disappointed as they were with the 2014 offering.
Expect a USB C port to replace Thunderbolt but otherwise I/O will likely remain the same. Probably 8 GB RAM and HDD on the base model, with 16 GB RAM and Fusion Drive or SSD on higher and custom order models. Kaby Lake processors, but probably no quad core option. All in a familiar looking box. All good to go with MacOS updates for the next seven years or so, and still useful for several years beyond…. In the end it is MacOS (which is updated regularly) that makes a Mac.
Over the past dozen years I have had just 2 Mac Minis, which have served my needs with minimal hassle and extra cost…. Seems fair value for money to me, compared to colleagues who replace their initially cheaper computers far more frequently.
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Micky Do - your cue was his use of the word "enthusiast" to clearly set you apart from "what" - a circular conversation from which you will not resolve. Your Tick - his Tock.
Apple did not update it's whole Mac lineup. The Mac Pro was not updated, and given its name it would seem to be part of the Mac line. It's not EOL either, Apple has promised. Therefore, it is intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer that the new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming
Hmm, I would've sworn they did. I just tried to find the moment, at 44:00 the guy, whoever he is says "we've updated 7 of our most popular Macs today"...maybe Tim Cook said it later, maybe not
c. Apple dumbed down the mini cause they knew it would cannibalize the rest of the line, so pros could not use it.
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Any monitor will work with a headless mac. The problem with the Imac is that the monitor is too small.
We're talking about the midrange pro here. $3000-$5000..the current iMac does not serve these people.
I would think that the mac mini costs less to produce than MacBook, the iMac or the mac pro,
how is it that they cannot make a $3500 mac mini that would make them a ton of money?