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When I play a youtube video and press the home button the sound stops; this is with both the site and app. Same goes for the Videos app.

Here is what you do after you exit the app and the sound stops: bring up the task switcher by double clicking or swiping up, swipe the task switcher To the right and you will see the multimedia play control panel. The icon should be the Youtube or the video app you just quit. Now click the play button and enjoy the video sound playing in the background. :cool:

You can use this trick for any app that supports it. For instance you can play an audio or Youtube video within Safari and play it this way or use AirVideo to stream off music video in the background. Again this feature is not really all that well known, even to some Mac forum dwellers.

I forgot to mention that some apps do play media in the background without having to do this: for instance OPlayer keeps playing stuff after you close the player or even after you turn the iPad off.
 
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Here is what you do after you exit the app and the sound stops: bring up the task switcher by double clicking or swiping up, swipe the task switcher To the right and you will see the multimedia play control panel. The icon should be the Youtube or the video app you just quit. Now click the play button and enjoy the video sound playing in the background. :cool:

You can use this trick to any app that supports it. For instance you can play an audio or Youtube video within Safari and play it this way or use AirVideo to stream off music video in the background. Again this feature is not really all that well known, even to some Mac forum dwellers.

Yeah. It doesn't work in the videos app. It is similar to how we used to get the iPod to send music to a bluetooth headset on the iPhone 2G.
 
Yeah. It doesn't work in the videos app. It is similar to how we used to get the iPod to send music to a bluetooth headset on the iPhone 2G.

That is unfortunate and Apple didn't program the video app correctly. :( i rarely use the built in video app For anything other an playing captuered clips so I did not know that.
 
3. Better app switching
Double clicking the home button and flicking between app icons is a very static, inefficient way to switch between apps. What Apple should do is copy Web OS 'cards' concept of app switching, or even just copy their own Safari page switching.

iOS 5 lets you switch between apps using a four-finger left/right swiping gesture, bring up the app switcher with a four-finger swipe up, and return to the home screen with a four-finger pinch. These gestures have actually been hidden in the operating system since 4.3 (as a beta feature). Having enabled them, I find myself using these all the time. Hardly ever touch the home button anymore.
 
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I miss features of a desktop OS, like downloading stuff from the internet, or using office 2011, etc.

I believe I read a clarification yesterday: The ARM based Windows 8 tablets will not run MS Office (Word, Excel, etc.). Only Intel based hardware will support the MS Office suite.

jdg
 
From what I see now windows 8 is great. I have no doubts that the OS will be very functional and amazing ( both the metro tablet UI and the standard desktop UI).
I love the mix of 2 different work flows in one tablet. It really is what everyone was hoping for BEFORE the iPad. Everyone wanted OSX with a touch friendly UI on a tablet. Not many wanted iOS.

If it was up to software alone I would instantly purchase a windows 8 tablet when available...
But that's not the case.
The hardware can potentially hold back any sales ( from me at least). I want the same form factor as an iPad, I want the same weight, same battery and same heat. I don't want a ticker znd heavier tablet with a fan.
 
From what I see now windows 8 is great. I have no doubts that the OS will be very functional and amazing ( both the metro tablet UI and the standard desktop UI).
I love the mix of 2 different work flows in one tablet. It really is what everyone was hoping for BEFORE the iPad. Everyone wanted OSX with a touch friendly UI on a tablet. Not many wanted iOS.

If it was up to software alone I would instantly purchase a windows 8 tablet when available...
But that's not the case.
The hardware can potentially hold back any sales ( from me at least). I want the same form factor as an iPad, I want the same weight, same battery and same heat. I don't want a ticker znd heavier tablet with a fan.

I think it's definitely meant to be more functional...whether it will really prove so in real life usage will be interesting to see
 
I wonder if it's gonna be buggy like every other os windows puts out.

However, I think the competition will be great for everyone.
 
I wonder if it's gonna be buggy like every other os windows puts out.

However, I think the competition will be great for everyone.

buggy? everything after ME has been fantastically stable. windows 7 is really impressive. i know lots of people on the forums loathe windows, and that is fine, but whatever complaints there are, i think it is difficult to say windows is buggy.

i am doubtful it will sell, and it's going to be tough to top ios5, but i am sure the os will be a polished masterpiece.
 
buggy? everything after ME has been fantastically stable. windows 7 is really impressive. i know lots of people on the forums loathe windows, and that is fine, but whatever complaints there are, i think it is difficult to say windows is buggy.

i am doubtful it will sell, and it's going to be tough to top ios5, but i am sure the os will be a polished masterpiece.

I will give you windows 7, but I've heard atrocious things about every other windows product before it.
 
I'll be definitely looking at a Win8 as an option in the future. With that said there are some major caveats I think MS needs to be aware of. I'm an old Pocket PC user, I was the guy who spent hours trying to find a way to integrate a Sprint CF 1xrt card into a Pocket PC and make it a phone way back in the beginning. There is a small subset of us guys who truly enjoyed those heady days when we actually had a windows like OS in the palm of our hands.

But MS made a LOT of mistakes with Pocket PC/Windows Mobile and subsequently their Tablet market, which is why none of those platforms has enjoyed even a small fraction of success that the iphone/ipad has. Developers and users for years and years would rail to MS about the path they were heading in, if MS just listened the market would be a different story now.

The things I see making or breaking Win8 in the mobile space include many of the mistakes MS made back then. First is the UI, back in the pocket PC days they stuffed a desktop UI into a mobile space, this was extremely cool for us nerds who sat hunched over with stylus and explored it, but it wasn't a good thing for the general population who wanted to get things done while eating a burger and driving their car thru rush hour traffic. Apple solved this issue with iOS, although IMO they went too far into the simple UI territory, still iOS works wonderfully for the non technically oriented consumer. This is one of the things MS needs to get right, you can't have a mobile OS and then have tiny taskbar menus or tiny controls pop up, you can't have something that you can't handle one handed or that breaks that mobile flow. I think they are taking great strides towards this in using Win8 dev build, but I'm afraid of the compromise on the other end. Already in desktop mode I see mobile elements in Win8 that are slowing down my productivity. There are methods to switch some of that off and get the normal desktop, start menu, etc etc on there though. I look at some of these growing pains like launchpad on LiOn, kind of useless but just a first step in the path to OS unification.

Of course the elephant in the room is hardware, MS NEEDS to get this right. All day battery life, instant on, no crashes, no fans, thin hardware, viewable screen. I think they are in the right direction, look at the ipad vs. win8 video and tell me that win8 tablet isn't pretty awesome in size. Now it's just a prototype and I would expect hardware manufacturers to come out with something nicer, more power efficient, not using a fan, etc. But here MS has to differentiate itself from a laptop, something Apple has done very well. If I need a web browser or to bring family pics along I'll grab the ipad, if I need to write a long report or do research I'll bring my laptop. Win8 may very well be the first OS which straddles this line, giving me the option to bring my Win8 tablet for both those purposes and truly letting me say goodbye to my laptop. But I'm seeing talk about ARM processors and how they might be different in the software they run, this would be a HUGE mistake on MS part branching the market like that. It would create confusion as to which tablet runs what software, although in typical fashion I'm sure MS would have a naming convention such as Win8 professional and Win8 home or some such idiocy. Win8 needs to be Win8, it needs to run all the same software regardless of hardware platform.

I'm very excited about Win8 and if Microsoft can successfully tackle both the UI and the hardware I'm all in, otherwise I'll be content with my ipad and win8 laptop.
 
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I must be the only person in the world that absolutely hates the Metro UI. I had a Windows 7 phone for a few weeks and I couldn't stand it.

The last thing I want is this UI on a tablet. No thanks, will stick with my iPad.

I don't like it either. I thought I did until I actually used it.

As for the Windows 8 tablet, I'm not so sure. We've seen the tablet speech before that ended up being vaporware.


Read the headline:

http://gizmodo.com/5839665/windows-8-slate-hands-on-its-fantastic-but-dont-sell-your-ipad

It's called competition. If we didn't have it, Apple wouldn't have to do anything to improve their stuff.

This is a myth. Apple has always been inventing and innovating. They are always ahead of their competition.

Not to mention everyone who talks about competition forgets to bring up the downside to competition, and thats fragmentation. Take a look at ebook readers for example, some publishers go with one, some with another, so you need all ebook readers to enjoy all your ebooks.

What exactly has Apple "invented"? The tablet? The smartphone? mp3 player?

Anyways, I think most people that slam the iPad have the wrong expectations for it. It's not supposed to replace the laptop. You're not supposed to write you thesis on one. Just surf the Internet, play some games, or have your kids watch a movie on it and be satisfied. If you're still disappointed, you bought into the hype.
 
I definitely will. And I'm saying this although I just got my iPad couple days ago. Finally we'll be able to do real stuff on a tab. :rolleyes:
 
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I got an iPad 2 the day it came out and still use it quite often. Mostly for surfing the internet and reading books & journal articles (PDFs). Beside the iPad, we have a MacBook Pro, which my wife monopolizes. The irony is, we bought the iPad so she wouldn't hog the MBP. But since the iPad can't handle watching embeded videos on the Internet (stutters way too often), she's back to using the MBP. Meanwhile, I need to get work done (lots of word processing and crunching data on Excel - both of which the iPad can't handle either), I'm likely going to pick up a MacBook Air. I'm sure Apple envisioned a lot of people in my situation.
 
If the Win8 UI is smooth and intuitive, and if someone makes a tablet running it that doesn't look like a prop from an 80s sci fi movie...if it's thin and light and powerful...if it syncs with my Apple mail, address book and calendars...if I can port my $200+ worth of apps over to it for free...

Then yes, I will definitely consider a win8 tablet.

In other words, no.
 
If the Win8 UI is smooth and intuitive, and if someone makes a tablet running it that doesn't look like a prop from an 80s sci fi movie...if it's thin and light and powerful...if it syncs with my Apple mail, address book and calendars...if I can port my $200+ worth of apps over to it for free...

Then yes, I will definitely consider a win8 tablet.

In other words, no.
Sofar the win UI is smooth and intuitive (both the desktop win7 style and metro)
It is not out yet so cant comment on hardware availability
Syncing mac mail and windows.. well, if your email ervice is imap that is actually quite simple.. But when you speak of 'syncing' it seems you are stuck in the limited ios or mobile phone sense of the word. Since Windows 8 is a full blown OS you can run multiple mail clients.

Your $200+ worth of apps? well if any of them are windows apps then they will work fine. If you are talking about fairly limited iOS apps then no they won't work.
 
I must be the only person in the world that absolutely hates the Metro UI. I had a Windows 7 phone for a few weeks and I couldn't stand it.

The last thing I want is this UI on a tablet. No thanks, will stick with my iPad.

I can't stand the Metro UI - it's so Fisher-Price/random-looking...

I like to have clearly defined icons, not squares of different sizes that look like part of a Tetris game.

I already dont want to switch back to Windows, but if this is the direction they're going in, they've pretty much guaranteed that I'd move full-time to Linux before ever running Windows again...
 
It depends. I've about had it with the current iOS springboard. It's cumbersome and annoying to keep organized. Windows 8's metro titles are very interesting.

If Apple wanted to rip off the metro tiles and the ability to organize icons via multitouch (hold down an icon and use your other hand to swipe pages within the springboard instead of dragging a single icon to the side of the screen and waiting for the springboard to move to the previous page automatically), it wouldn't hurt my feelings any.
 
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