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Heck yea! I'll have a sweet window imprint and everything. It'll be awesome. I'll take pics.
~~(that's drool, btw.)
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Heck yea! I'll have a sweet window imprint and everything. It'll be awesome. I'll take pics.
~~(that's drool, btw.)
Mmmmm drool!katie ta achoo said:Heck yea! I'll have a sweet window imprint and everything. It'll be awesome. I'll take pics.
(that's drool, btw.)
I slipped a couple of discs in my back a couple of days before Christmas and was on some excelent pain killers that when mixed with the Christmas booze cocktail of bucks-fizz, champagne, wine, brandy and pimms had me knocked out sleeping on the sofa drooling like a hot St Bernard, I spent Boxing Day ringing out the cushions!
As someone who recently was the parent of one of those screaming kids, I'd note a couple of things:SharksFan22 said:
1. No matter how bad it is for you to listen to the kid screaming, it's infinitely worse for the parents, who are both frustrated and embarrassed. I travel a lot (about 60K miles per year) and understand what it's like to be subjected to kids crying on a flight, especially when you're also tired and ready to get home.
2. Sometimes, no matter what you do as a parent, the kid is going to scream. My son just turned two years old. The flight was delayed 3 1/2 hours (try getting a kid to sleep in a busy terminal) so we took off about the time we should have been home. The people in front of us put their seats all the way back so that there was no room for me to hold my son, making it difficult to console him. And hitting a 2-year old in pubic in this day and age is generally frowned upon.
So not to make excuses, but it's not always easy to quiet a young child. Trust me - we tried everything.
Aisle seat in the emergency exit row for me. Being 6'4" 215lbs. I can't stand sitting anywhere else. I once had a check-in clerk ask if I'd be able to handle the emergency exit row duties if need be. I know that's a standard question but he was a real pr**k about it. I said, "If I can't, I don't see many other people on this plane who could."
Now I try to fly Southwest as much as I can and get on early and snag the aisle seat in the exit row. I hate it, though, when short people beat me to it. I just want to snap them in two.
Now I try to fly Southwest as much as I can and get on early and snag the aisle seat in the exit row. I hate it, though, when short people beat me to it. I just want to snap them in two.
emw said:As someone who recently was the parent of one of those screaming kids, I'd note a couple of things:
1. No matter how bad it is for you to listen to the kid screaming, it's infinitely worse for the parents, who are both frustrated and embarrassed. I travel a lot (about 60K miles per year) and understand what it's like to be subjected to kids crying on a flight, especially when you're also tired and ready to get home.
2. Sometimes, no matter what you do as a parent, the kid is going to scream. My son just turned two years old. The flight was delayed 3 1/2 hours (try getting a kid to sleep in a busy terminal) so we took off about the time we should have been home. The people in front of us put their seats all the way back so that there was no room for me to hold my son, making it difficult to console him. And hitting a 2-year old in pubic in this day and age is generally frowned upon.
So not to make excuses, but it's not always easy to quiet a young child. Trust me - we tried everything.
Ok, I see your point. Maybe my earlier rant was a little "overboard".
And your right, ya can't smack a two-year old in public. My complaint stems more from the parents that don't try to do anything rather than the ones that do try to do something.
emw said:
post of the day nomination
i've been lucky in flights so far with my son, but i do know what it's like to be sitting red-faced and horrified by the actions of my child. it is absolutely more difficult to be the parents of the screaming child.
boy it's never difficult to pinpoint someone who has never had children.
i have experienced many occasions where i thought the parents could have done more and i was annoyed by their kid(s) but i try to be understanding. intolerance can come back to bite you in the ass, trust me.
to answer the original question, i generally prefer the aisle seats, i am always strangely concerned about wanting to "get away" and hate feeling trapped but if i am travelling with my child i have to suck it up and take the friggin middle seat... i hate it but you gotta do what you gotta do. (he needs the window seat or everyone suffers) air travel is a pain in the ass no matter how you slice it.
iBlue said:post of the day nomination
i've been lucky in flights so far with my son, but i do know what it's like to be sitting red-faced and horrified by the actions of my child. it is absolutely more difficult to be the parents of the screaming child.
boy it's never difficult to pinpoint someone who has never had children.
i have experienced many occasions where i thought the parents could have done more and i was annoyed by their kid(s) but i try to be understanding. intolerance can come back to bite you in the ass, trust me.
Ok, ok. I get the point.
Yes, I do not have children so I have a slightly jaded view. Of course, I could say that kids shouldn't be on airplanes -- that's why Lee Iacocca invented minivans. just kidding!
Well said. All of us who are parents understand and have been there and done that. Kiddies are especially sensitive to cabin pressure change and the unsettled and insecure feeling of travel, and they do what children do. Frankly, it's the adults who act like children on a flight who set me off. Loud, brash, self-centered, boundaryless **s hats who act as if the Sun revolved around them, carry on everything but the kitchen sink and parade up and down the aisle looking for more space to jam their accumulations in to, while whacking the heads of others already seated, and whose vocabulary does not include "sorry or excuse me". There....my vent for the holidays.
I bet you didn't try one of these:emw said:Trust me - we tried everything.
Check my first post, I feel your pain.SharksFan22 said:
SharksFan22 said:Ok, ok. I get the point.
It warms my heart when folks can banter intelligently and even back off from a position instead of argue it out. Mucho Kudos to SharksFan22 and emw.
As far as window or aisle- I have no preference. It could be an allegory for the rest of life, each has it's trade offs. The only place I would not want to sit is the middle seat of a 3 seat aisle. That's no good.
Quick anecdote, family friend worked for National Geographics and was flying through Africa. He got a window seat and a very large woman took the aisle. Long story short- she passed away shortly after take off and he couldn't get out of his seat because of her size. So he sat next to her for the next couple of hours.....
I'm not picky, and am fine with either. The windows seat is nice because on long flights when I have to sleep I feel more "cozy" tucked away in the corner like that. However, the aisle is always nice on long flights as well since it's easy to get up and walk around, go to the bathroom, etc., without having to disturb people.
emw said:Unfortunately, I'm at work so I can't see what you've linked to, but let's see if I can guess what it was - something to do with a muzzle?
Bingo.
SharksFan22 said:Ok, ok. I get the point.
i didn't see your other post (55) when i posted that by the way. i totally understand, i am a parent and i can get a bit frustrated by kids.
next time i want to go from Seattle to London i'll have to remember that minivan though.
- is that why all those parents have them? (i can't bring myself to ever own a minivan) Counterfit said:I bet you didn't try one of these:
it's a darn shame about those security searches
all those possibilities left behind"airports have this policy about 'vibrating luggage'...."
emw said:Ah, yes. You see, we always hate to pack that kind of stuff, just in case security calls a search.
Understood my friend, understood.
ibook30 said:Quick anecdote, family friend worked for National Geographics and was flying through Africa. He got a window seat and a very large woman took the aisle. Long story short- she passed away shortly after take off and he couldn't get out of his seat because of her size. So he sat next to her for the next couple of hours.....
Damn, I would have taken a safari and walked over her.
Of course, if you take the batteries out of most of them, you could probably just walk through the metal detector with them in your pocket.iBlue said:it's a darn shame about those security searches
"airports have this policy about 'vibrating luggage'...."
Well, maybe your coat pocket, anyway.
I have immense sympathy for parents of infants and toddlers who, I imagine, have sore ears from the changes in pressure. I confess to sticking my in-ear headphones in as soon as the wails start but I can understand why they're doing it.
The kids/parents that bug me are the ones whose parents haven't brought along anything for them to do so they sit and kick their feet against the seatback in front of them (read my seatback) or stand up in their seat and stare at the people behind without their parents even attempting to stop them.
I once had some kid come and sit next to me (it was a quiet flight so there were 2 empty seats beside me) and start trying to push the buttons on my Powerbook. His mother just looked over, smiled at me and said, 'Isn't it great how kids are into technology these days?"
The kids/parents that bug me are the ones whose parents haven't brought along anything for them to do so they sit and kick their feet against the seatback in front of them (read my seatback) or stand up in their seat and stare at the people behind without their parents even attempting to stop them.
I once had some kid come and sit next to me (it was a quiet flight so there were 2 empty seats beside me) and start trying to push the buttons on my Powerbook. His mother just looked over, smiled at me and said, 'Isn't it great how kids are into technology these days?"
Definitley Aisle!!! I love to have the freedom to get up whenever I want without having to touch other people and wake them up.. If you sit at the window seat and you have to get up.. you always feel some guilt when you have to tell the person to move their stuff... I AGREE WITH U!!
Aisle seat for me. I'm too restless to sit the entire flight, so I like to get up and walk around, and I don't like to climb over other people.
Don't have kids, but I can sympathize with the parents of the screaming children. When I was growing up, I had serious problems with my inner ear and air pressure changes, so I WAS the screaming kid. I'm told I was quite a terror on long flights.
Don't have kids, but I can sympathize with the parents of the screaming children. When I was growing up, I had serious problems with my inner ear and air pressure changes, so I WAS the screaming kid. I'm told I was quite a terror on long flights.
Window for me. I look out for almost the entire flight. kinda boring on trans-atlantic trips but youd be surprised at how many different wave caps there are
iRachel said:
Funny you should mention that -- I was on a flight this morning (in an aisle seat of course) and felt bad for the poor kid that was screaming from the back of the plane as we landed. I knew it was the pressure on his eardrums driving him crazy.