Window stuck behind Apple bar?

mumbo

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Nov 11, 2005
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After installing a program, the main window was placed in such a way that it's close, minimize and resize buttons are BEHIND the Apple bar at the top of the screen. Hopefully you can see what I mean from the attachment (Mailwasher is the program with the stuck window)

I've tried dragging from anywhere I could, and using Expose and clicking on the window, both with no luck. I also tried reinstalling the program with no change in its position (!). So I don't know what to do!

Anyone have any answers for this?
I searched the forum but did not find any.

Thanks,
Craig
 

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Lacero

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Happens with poorly written apps. Try deleting the plist for the app. Also, you may try changing screen resolutions to nudge the app from behind the menu bar.
 

Shmanky

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Hmm, with Microsoft you could move windows with the keyboard. It's these kind of things that I think Microsoft does better and makes me not want to try going Mac.
 

Lacero

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LOL.

How often do you move windows with the arrow keys? Spyware and Trojans are a bigger concern to me than the occasional rogue app that gets stuck behind a menu bar.

OK. OK. That was sarcasm, right? :D

:rolleyes:
 

yellow

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Shmanky said:
Hmm, with Microsoft you could move windows with the keyboard. It's these kind of things that I think Microsoft does better and makes me not want to try going Mac.
Hehe that is funny. Definitely a valid reason to stick with Windows.
 

mac-er

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Shmanky said:
Hmm, with Microsoft you could move windows with the keyboard. It's these kind of things that I think Microsoft does better and makes me not want to try going Mac.
Then enjoy your viruses, spyware, trojans, blue screens, and stripped down Vista that will be out in 2006 or 07 or 08.
 

Blue Velvet

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Shmanky said:
Hmm, with Microsoft you could move windows with the keyboard. It's these kind of things that I think Microsoft does better and makes me not want to try going Mac.

One of the funniest things I've read here all week.

I'd rather drive a Skoda than a Mercedes because it comes with an AM radio as standard.
 

Shmanky

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I'm talking about the ability to control applications entirely with the keyboard and not having to reach for the mouse. This isn't trivial. Reaching for the mouse and moving the mouse increases strain. Obviously all of you missed my point.
 

Blackheart

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Shmanky said:
I'm talking about the ability to control applications entirely with the keyboard and not having to reach for the mouse. This isn't trivial. Reaching for the mouse and moving the mouse increases strain. Obviously all of you missed my point.
But we can do that... so what's the problem? Merely that you can't move a window with the arrow keys?
 

Shmanky

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Blackheart said:
But we can do that... so what's the problem? Merely that you can't move a window with the arrow keys?
Okay, then please share with me how windows can be moved with the keyboard on a Mac, because I'd really like to know. I know you can do COMMAND-W, COMMAND-Q to close, but can you move a window or min/max a window like on Windows where you go ALT-SPACE to bring up the menu, then hit M for move, then use the arrow keys to move the window? Is it even possible to access the Dock without the mouse? Thanks.
 

wnameth

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Shmanky said:
Okay, then please share with me how windows can be moved with the keyboard on a Mac, because I'd really like to know. I know you can do COMMAND-W, COMMAND-Q to close, but can you move a window or min/max a window like on Windows where you go ALT-SPACE to bring up the menu, then hit M for move, then use the arrow keys to move the window? Is it even possible to access the Dock without the mouse? Thanks.
I never feel the need to, i set middle mouse button to expose and then you don't have to close all the open windows to get to a certain one or the desktop:)
 

MacAficionado

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Shmanky said:
Okay, then please share with me how windows can be moved with the keyboard on a Mac, because I'd really like to know. I know you can do COMMAND-W, COMMAND-Q to close, but can you move a window or min/max a window like on Windows where you go ALT-SPACE to bring up the menu, then hit M for move, then use the arrow keys to move the window? Is it even possible to access the Dock without the mouse? Thanks.
You'll find your answers in the Keyboard Shortcuts Tab of the Keyboard & Mouse section of System Preferences.

You're Welcome.
 

Blackheart

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Shmanky said:
Okay, then please share with me how windows can be moved with the keyboard on a Mac, because I'd really like to know. I know you can do COMMAND-W, COMMAND-Q to close, but can you move a window or min/max a window like on Windows where you go ALT-SPACE to bring up the menu, then hit M for move, then use the arrow keys to move the window? Is it even possible to access the Dock without the mouse? Thanks.
Oddly, you didn't notice that in the post you quoted, I insinuated that you couldn't move the window with the keyboard.

You can access the dock by pressing control-F3 then using the arrow keys.

EDIT: You can minimize a window with command-m; you can un-minimize using the "dock selecting" method outlined above.
 

PCMacUser

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Shmanky said:
Okay, then please share with me how windows can be moved with the keyboard on a Mac, because I'd really like to know. I know you can do COMMAND-W, COMMAND-Q to close, but can you move a window or min/max a window like on Windows where you go ALT-SPACE to bring up the menu, then hit M for move, then use the arrow keys to move the window? Is it even possible to access the Dock without the mouse? Thanks.
Don't worry Shmanky, while most missed your point and used the opportunity to flame someone who doesn't think Windows is Satan incarnate, I fully understand what you mean. While OS X is pleasant to use, it's not always practical. Something that's been annoying me a bit recently is the fact that if you have a minimised window, you can expand it by clicking the program icon in the dock, but to minimise it again you have to either click the minimise icon again or hit command-m. In Windows, you can click the icon on the taskbar to maximise it and then click it again to minimise it. It's the little things that you notice when moving from one OS to the other.
 

TheMonarch

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This happens to me many times. And its not with "Poorly written" apps either...


It happens with Apple's own Pro Apps. Take a look:
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I have to go to window->arrange to fix it... I do wish I could use the KB to move the windows to, for times like this.
 

neocell

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hayduke

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is a state of mind.
iCal is "poorly written" too...

It happens to me with iCal all the time. For some reason month-view goes haywire occasionally and disappears off screen. I have to can the plist or edit it to see months again.

Also, I haven't quite figured out what triggers it, but occasionally my windows get badly scrambled when I disconnect my external monitor from my PB. I've been meaning to write an apple script to go through and resize things, but I haven't gotten around to it.
 

PCMacUser

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Occasionally when dragging Finder windows around my screen, when I let go of the mouse button, the window goes flying off to the bottom of the screen... damned annoying.