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ShawnF

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Hello. I am seeking help with this issue:

Problem: After much time and effort, I finally managed to install windows 10 on my Mac Pro 5.1. The Mac is running OSX High Sierra (latest version) but the Bootcamp drive just won’t show on the desktop (or anywhere else in OSX including startup disk selection panel) I did not experience this problem when I installed Win 7 and Win 8.

Can someone offer some advise to make the drive icon appear? And is anyone else experiencing this issue with a Mac Pro 5.1?

My installation was via DVD and I used the Annivesary Update version ISO to make the bootable DVD. The windows 10 version I am running is Win10 Professional, International English version. The Bootcamp Support software for this Mac model was installed without problems and I have access to Bootcamp Drive Selection Panel in windows taskbar.
 

startergo

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Hello. I am seeking help with this issue:

Problem: After much time and effort, I finally managed to install windows 10 on my Mac Pro 5.1. The Mac is running OSX High Sierra (latest version) but the Bootcamp drive just won’t show on the desktop (or anywhere else in OSX including startup disk selection panel) I did not experience this problem when I installed Win 7 and Win 8.

Can someone offer some advise to make the drive icon appear? And is anyone else experiencing this issue with a Mac Pro 5.1?

My installation was via DVD and I used the Annivesary Update version ISO to make the bootable DVD. The windows 10 version I am running is Win10 Professional, International English version. The Bootcamp Support software for this Mac model was installed without problems and I have access to Bootcamp Drive Selection Panel in windows taskbar.
It won't show up on your desktop or the startup disk only in the bootlicker menu depending on your video card you have different options to select Windows. If you have boot screen you can select it at boot if not you can use a script or any of the boot selection external softwares in this thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/how-to-boot-camp-without-a-boot-screen.2114788/
 

ShawnF

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It won't show up on your desktop or the startup disk only in the bootlicker menu depending on your video card you have different options to select Windows. If you have boot screen you can select it at boot if not you can use a script or any of the boot selection external softwares in this thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/how-to-boot-camp-without-a-boot-screen.2114788/

Thanks. The boot screen works fine on my GT120 card. That is not the issue.

The issue is with the Bootcamp partition not being seen in OSX, I cannot do other things like making a winclone backup of the drive. Also bootloading tools like Boot Runner will not work and I can’t create a VM image of the Bootcamp drive.

Hope someone can assist.
 

startergo

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Thanks. The boot screen works fine on my GT120 card. That is not the issue.

The issue is with the Bootcamp partition not being seen in OSX, I cannot do other things like making a winclone backup of the drive. Also bootloading tools like Boot Runner will not work and I can’t create a VM image of the Bootcamp drive.

Hope someone can assist.
I have winclone and it sees the bootcamp so I can manipulate it. I got to say that I also have NTFS for mac as well. But winclone should suffice. Is it the latest version? I find winclone to be buggy. I much prefer Norton ghost. I have created a bootable USB with ghost and then I can copy the entire drive. Winclone only copies the volume and the conversion did not worjk for me (from EFI to legacy). It created a hybrid drive, but at boot it came with inaccessible_ boot_device. I injected the drivers, but it did not help. Ghost works flawlessly. You can even copy bit by bit the drive.
 

ShawnF

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Thanks. But again you are not addressing my problem. This is NOT about backup. It is about locating and making the Bootcamp partition appear in OSX. If it’s hidden, I need to know how to UNHIDE the partition.

The Bootcamp partition is NO WHERE to be found when i log into OSX. I can log into windows 10 just fine from the normal boot loader using my GT120 card.

But if I can’t see the Bootcamp drive in OSX then I can’t manipulate it.
 

skizzo

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doesn't make much sense....obviously macOS can see the bootcamp partition if you are able to select it via the boot picker at startup. it "sees" it then, so it would be a bit strange to have it not populate at all under Disk Utility or Finder or whatever application/program.

I am unfamiliar with the terminal commands to provide the read out, but you should post if you have Windows 10 installed in CSM/Legacy or EFI mode. Any info on your system and configuration of all disks would be pertinent and helpful FYI
 

ShawnF

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Do you have latest winclone installed?
Yes version 6 Standard
[doublepost=1551105812][/doublepost]
doesn't make much sense....obviously macOS can see the bootcamp partition if you are able to select it via the boot picker at startup. it "sees" it then, so it would be a bit strange to have it not populate at all under Disk Utility or Finder or whatever application/program.

I am unfamiliar with the terminal commands to provide the read out, but you should post if you have Windows 10 installed in CSM/Legacy or EFI mode. Any info on your system and configuration of all disks would be pertinent and helpful FYI

Thanks. I find it weird too.

I did a Legacy installation as indicated in the opening post. Installed on SATA SSD connected to SATA 2 in the drive Bay. Just that and another with my main OSX installed. No other SATA or PCI-E drives installed

The SSD is a 500gb Samsung Pro 840. It has 2 partitions. One for Mac OSX and another with Windows10. The bootrom of my Mac is 141.0.0.0.0 (the common one mentioned in most threads)
 
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bsbeamer

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What type of drive? Brand/model/capacity? Format and partition scheme?
How is the drive physically connected to the MP5,1? Using a PCIe adapter?
What BootROM/firmware?
 

ShawnF

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What type of drive? Brand/model/capacity? Format and partition scheme?
How is the drive physically connected to the MP5,1? Using a PCIe adapter?
What BootROM/firmware?
See previous post on TOP

My installation was via DVD and I used the Annivesary Update version ISO to make the bootable DVD. The windows 10 version I am running is Win10 Professional, International English version. The Bootcamp Support software for this Mac model was installed without problems and I have access to Bootcamp Drive Selection Panel in windows taskbar.
 

startergo

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Yes version 6 Standard
[doublepost=1551105812][/doublepost]

Thanks. I find it weird too.

I did a Legacy installation as indicated in the opening post. Installed on SATA SSD connected to SATA 2 in the drive Bay. Just that and another with my main OSX installed. No other SATA or PCI-E drives installed

The SSD is a 500gb Samsung Pro 840. It has 2 partitions. One for Mac OSX and another with Windows10. The bootrom of my Mac is 141.0.0.0.0 (the common one mentioned in most threads)
This is strange:
"Winclone 7 now mounts NTFS volumes as Read/Write without requiring installation of 3rd party drivers. This greatly simplifies the process and is a great way to quickly copy a file or folder that you’ll need when in Windows."
[doublepost=1551107345][/doublepost]You need winclone 7
 

ShawnF

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This is strange:
"Winclone 7 now mounts NTFS volumes as Read/Write without requiring installation of 3rd party drivers. This greatly simplifies the process and is a great way to quickly copy a file or folder that you’ll need when in Windows."
[doublepost=1551107345][/doublepost]You need winclone 7
Thanks.

I don’t think it will because the Bootcamp win10 drive doesn’t even appear in normal OSX finder. Winclone 6 you needed MACFuse to make the enable read/write for. NTFS partition. But the partition has to appear or mounted in OSX in the first place.

Again this is not a Winclone problem so let’s skip anymore talk about winclone.i want to focus on getting the drive to appear and mounted on OSX first.
 
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ShawnF

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As I said it works for me. If it does not work beat Winclone as they advertise it. Or get your money back:).
You should be able to get discount. Actually here is your 50% discount
Ok. I hope I’m not being rude but you are starting to sound like a TwoCanoes sales rep. I have no problems with that but my focus is to get OSX to initialize and mount the win10 bootcamp partition.
 
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startergo

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Ok. I hope I’m not being rude but you are starting to sound like a TwoCanoes sales rep. I have no problems with that but my focus is to get OSX to initialize and mount the win10 bootcamp partition.
I am definitely not affiliated with twocanoes. Just a regular user. I used the same discount code.
 

crjackson2134

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I'm not sure what the problem is exactly, but Winclone anything doesn't help his issue.

This is a macOS/Win issue obviously.

Pull the Win drive out of the machine, to a full NVRAM/SMC reset, power off again and reinstall the drive into a different location. Then boot into macOS and see if it finds the drive.
 
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ShawnF

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I'm not sure what the problem is exactly, but Winclone anything doesn't help his issue.

This is a macOS/Win issue obviously.

Pull the Win drive out of the machine, to a full NVRAM/SMC reset, power off again and reinstall the drive into a different location. Then boot into macOS and see if it finds the drive.


Tried that and did not work.

Used a SATA to USB connector and booted into OSX HS, also the same issue.

Is reinstall the only option?
 

crjackson2134

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Tried that and did not work.

Used a SATA to USB connector and booted into OSX HS, also the same issue.

Is reinstall the only option?

Probably... I think you said it’s installed in CSM mode, but I have to be honest here, something went awry. Everything you are describing sounds like and EFI install. An EFI install behaves as you have described.

I would wipe the drive, remove all partitions EVERYTHING.

Then start the install process from DVD again, and be very carful to avoid anything related to EFI mode. There is a forum guide here written by [B]h9826790[/B] you should search for and refer to for the step by step process.

Use the guide. In the end, it should all work out.

Just be sure to get the drive wiped properly, do a clean install only, don’t restore any previous clone installs.
You can copy your backed up data over later.
 
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h9826790

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Please open terminal and enter the follow command.
Code:
diskutil list

And post the result here. Should looks something like this.
Screenshot 2019-02-26 at 3.52.46 PM.png
 

ShawnF

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Good news. I reinstalled using the DVD legacy method. This time the Bootcamp partition appeared! After that I made winclone image along with a VMware image and they all seem to work fine.

I did the exact same steps as the first time including using the same SSD. Not sure what went wrong the first time round.
 
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