Windows 10 on imac Mid-2011?

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  1. eclipse macrumors 6502a

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    Hi all,
    The following site said that I've missed out by just 6 months, that my Mid-2011 iMac CANNOT run Windows 10. I'm wondering if this is an absolute rule or is it one of those recommended performance things?
    https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204990#models
     
  2. Lunder89 macrumors 6502

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    I suspect it could get difficult to continue. Apple might not have created the drivers for your specific Mac. And without drivers, something is bound to not work.
     
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  4. SoCalReviews, Feb 5, 2018
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    MS itself has been sunsetting Windows 10 support for hardware lately too. It's a continuation of the computer software and hardware industry's policy of forced obsolescence. The best solution is to use a virtual machine like Parallels or VMWare . Instead of relying solely on Apple Bootcamp drivers the VM application developers work to ensure compatibility between the latest releases of Windows, your current MacOS and your Mac hardware.
     
  5. eclipse thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    That sounds encouraging. Have you heard of instances where the Mid-2011 actually ran Win 10?
     
  6. T909 Suspended

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    Even MacBooks from 2006 run Windows 10
     
  7. eclipse thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Love it! I'll have to watch again in the morning when my brain is working.
     
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  9. PotatoMan83 macrumors newbie

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    It is totally possible and actually quite easy. I don't know why so many people are having a huge problem doing this but there is no code or special program or anything necessary. Ill make a tutorial based on my experience. Took an hour total on my 2011 imac to install windows 7, upgrade to 10. now It even plays fortnite quite well on respectable settings!
     

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    Fantastic news! I look forward to your tutorial.
     
  11. PotatoMan83 macrumors newbie

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    While you are waiting for the tutorial check out the video I made on YouTube. It shows Fortnite being played rather well, exiting out to windows 10, and then booting back to High Sierra, with system into.

     
  12. SoCalReviews, Feb 21, 2019
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    I've heard of people installing Windows 10 on very old PC hardware going back to before 2005 but I'm not sure what computer hardware the latest Win 10 releases support. I use Parallels on my Mac Mini mid-2011 with MacOS High Sierra 10.13.6 and it runs Windows 10 Pro just fine. but it sounds like there might be ways you can install it using bootcamp. I think you can also not use MacOS at all and install and run it natively on older Macs without MacOS like you would any computer but I don't have details about how to do that.
     
  13. PotatoMan83 macrumors newbie

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    Okay here is the tutorial. keep in mind, this is from my experience with my setup. I was using Mac OS High Sierra.

    What you'll need:

    -Windows 7 64bit ISO*
    -Blank Single Layer DVD-R*(Cannot be dual layer, or RW)
    * - If you already have a retail Windows 7 or burned version, you don't need the first items
    -USB Flash Drive
    -Bootcamp Drivers V. 4.0.4033 ( https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1630?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US )
    -Windows Media Creation tool for Windows 10
    Valid Windows 10 Key or VLK (Volume License Key)
    VLK will not let you activate Windows 10 but it will allow you to install. A quick websearch will help you.


    Step 1
    Locate or download your Windows 7 ISO File
    Insert your blank media into the SuperDrive
    Right click your ISO and select burn image to disc
    I selected 4X speed because the machine is older and it helps with ensuring a smooth finished product.

    Step 2
    Download the proper Bootcamp Driver Package from the link I posted above
    Insert your USB Drive, and open Disk Utility
    Format USB to FAT32
    Take your Bootcamp Driver Package and drag it right onto your USB Drive
    Eject USB Drive for later

    Step 3
    Open your Bootcamp Assistant by simply typing it in Spotlight Search
    Click Next
    Make sure only the bottom box is checked (Install Windows 7)
    You don't need to download the Bootcamp Drivers because we already have them on our USB

    Insert your Windows 7 DVD
    Click Next, and select the size of the partition you would like
    Finish and go through the installation Process of Windows 7
    MAKE SURE YOU SELECT THE "BOOTCAMP" PARTITION TO INSTALL.
    IF IT SAYS IT CANNOT BE INSTALLED THERE, SIMPLY HIT FORMAT THEN NEXT.

    There will be reboots and it may say "Press Any Key...." Just let it be. Don't press.
    On install skip key for now, unless you have one.

    Step 4

    After you have installed and setup windows 7, remove the DVD, and insert your USB Drive with the Bootcamp Drivers.
    In the bootcamp folder, locate bootcamp.exe, right click and install as administrator.
    Once the process has completed, restart the computer again. It should automatically boot to Windows for now until you change that yourself, or use the Option Key at bootup.

    Step 5
    Remove the USB Drive. We are done with it.
    You can now connect to the internet. Go to https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209 to download the Media Creation tool we will use to install Windows 10.
    Run the file and "Upgrade Now" when it prompts you to decide.
    It will take some time to download.
    Again, Follow the Installation through and use either your own key, the VLK, or if you already had a valid Windows 7 Key it will upgrade you for free.

    if you happen to get a BSOD in Windows 10, Run Windows Update. This happened to me. I got a few here and there in the beginning, and it ironed out, and as you can see im playing graphic intensive games right now through it.

    I Hope this helps!
     
  14. PotatoMan83 macrumors newbie

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    **Update** if you have an AMD graphics card in your iMac I found a site that has some amazing drivers that have been compiled for all legacy iMacs (2013 and earlier).
     
  15. AdamJoel macrumors newbie

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    Okay here is how you can do it. First thing I installed a 240GB SATA SSD (Kingston) and the superdrive was shot so I replaced it.

    Last night I performed a successful Win 10 pro x64 1809 on iMac mid 2011 27 inch (i7 / 16 GB RAM / AMD Radeon graphics)
    I know there are so many people wondering how to do it and make it work right (I can confirm that this way I came up with is the easiest) so I will break it down:

    1) I installed the new HDD, held ALT to boot, partitioned the drive and did internet install of MacOS and updates
    2) I then went in to Bootcamp and made the drivers for Windows 7on a USB flash drive
    3) Inserted my Windows 7 Ultimate DVD into the drive for it to create the BOOTCAMP partition (if you try to install 10 from a DVD you get the can not install old versions of windows warning)
    4) After partitioning drive and making the USB drive with the Win 7 drivers then the mac will reboot. Hold ALT down to bring up the startup options. I hit EJECT on the keyboard and removed the 7 disk
    5) Inserted Windows 10 x86/x64 DVD (I have both versions on a dual layer DVD from Microsoft its an 8 GB ISO roughly but any windowss 10 disc should work)
    6) Select boot from Windows (DVD Icon) - it does take it about 30 seconds from ejecting the DVD to see the new disc
    6.5) Make sure you have a legit Windows 10 product key because it will come up first asking for it - though you can install it anyways without but will need to activate later. I also recommend having an ethernet cable plugged in (and internet access) when setting up Windows 10
    7) Windows 10 bootloader shows up, press any key to boot from DVD
    8) when you get to the partitioning screen, delete the BOOTCAMP partition (usually is number 4) and then create a new partition there and then install Windows
    9) Having then getting to the desktop open Device Manager. This is where it gets tricky. The AMD Radeon driver can be obtained from Microsoft automatically but other drivers are a no for the most part
    10) Insert your bootcamp drivers USB into the mac and then with device manager you can update driver software manually - point it to the drivers folder on the flash drive and so for Audio use the cirrus logic driver - it will work, install all other drivers related to your system. Note that the Intel Chipset drivers for the C200 series that came wont work for the system (using installer method) but you can still install them anyways from the folder. The only driver that does not work is the Broadcom Bluetooth driver. I downloaded it from Dell of all places and their driver worked perfectly.

    Anyways, now you will have a perfectly working copy of Win 10 x64 on your mac with no driver issues.

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  16. eclipse thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thank you! I'm archiving this for when I tackle my iMac and convert stuff. I'm currently studying my ComptiaA+ so will hopefully recognise more implications of these moves when I've finished the OS components of the 902. Cheers!
     
  17. AdamJoel macrumors newbie

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    Awesome. This methid of mine works on older macs too only difference is some drivers but still easy to find them.. Cheers! And good luck on A+
     
  18. Project Alice macrumors 6502a

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    Windows 10 will run on literally anything. I'm gonna post what I always post when I see these kinds of threads...
    Bootcamp is completely unnecessary, intel macs are just PCs with apple logos. Windows 10 will install and figure out all the drivers on it's own. Worst case scenario a multitouch trackpad might need bootcamp for "full features" to work. This isn't Windows 98 where we need to rely on manufacturers for drivers. Half the time the PC's manufacturer site has an older version than windows does. And that is absolutly true for bootcamp. If I install windows on a mac I just get drivers from intel, nvidia or AMD, ect.
     
  19. koden, May 14, 2019
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    Sound nice..

    I have a late 2009 imac.

    put in my win 10 USB stick
    Boot and hold ALT.
    Choose to boot from USB and win 10 will aut. install...

    No problem there.
    WIN 10 runs for weeks...
    BUT if I put imac on internet it become some update or whatever... and the screen goes black.

    Seems that win 7 has to be on before win 10 will work.

    Win 10 don't have to be activated.
    If it's okay to have "this windows is not activatd" in the right corner.
    There is almost no diff. between a license version or one without.
     
  20. koden macrumors newbie

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    WIN10 driver issue solved.
    Used this guide...


    Italian but just look at video.

    What he do is to ignore videocard updates.
     
  21. koden macrumors newbie

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    My only problem left is some missing drivers and how to control fans. Not that fans runs on high. But on mac os i had this fan control which is nice.
     

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