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salamanderjuice said:
Does it matter if Linux attains more market share and divided among 500 distros? What's the difference?
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The point is that there cannot be true growth or true fulfillment of "the year of Linux" partly because of the fragmentation of the linux desktop platform. Its growing, no denying that but its not going to be embraced by consumers as it stands imo
 
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maflynn said:
The point is that there cannot be true growth or true fulfillment of "the year of Linux" partly because of the fragmentation of the linux desktop platform. Its growing, no denying that but its not going to be embraced by consumers as it stands imo
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"the year of Linux" 🤣😂 I had forgotten about this for probably decades now. People still on about this? It ain't gonna catch on until you don't need the terminal for basic ****.
 
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Flint Ironstag said:
"the year of Linux" 🤣😂 I had forgotten about this for probably decades now. People still on about this? It ain't gonna catch on until you don't need the terminal for basic ****.
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I literally use terminal to free up about 40GB or so on windows every time I install it to clear out the hiberfil.says since Windows 7.

I also had to use it recently due to the task manager bug in Windows 11.
 
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maflynn said:
The point is that there cannot be true growth or true fulfillment of "the year of Linux" partly because of the fragmentation of the linux desktop platform. Its growing, no denying that but its not going to be embraced by consumers as it stands imo
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You get less anxiety from taming cobras than choosing a distro. Especially when you ask people online you get like 10 recommendations and each person is extremely confident in their distro being the best. I know Ubuntu or Mint might be the most suitable for beginners, but you also get plenty of "no, use Kank" "no, Blonketi" "Bamboora" "Tadaa!" "Lomliloo!!" "Wabadingdong!!!"
 
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MS is kicking of 2026 with a bang - Windows 11 update KB5074109 is breaking systems — Microsoft says uninstall it ASAP

Update KB5074109 has triggered a wave of bug reports ranging from performance issues to broken features, and the company has now published guidance urging affected users to roll it back. It’s the latest chapter in the ongoing saga of Windows updates causing more problems than they solve.
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But at least they're still adding copilot into every area of the OS - the bugs can wait 😳
 
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maflynn said:
The point is that there cannot be true growth or true fulfillment of "the year of Linux" partly because of the fragmentation of the linux desktop platform. Its growing, no denying that but its not going to be embraced by consumers as it stands imo
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Back around 2005-2006, Linux folks were wondering why they didn't have the commercial support that Firefox had. Firefox was bringing in about $80 million and it may be that there was one Firefox (despite all of the private builds that many of us made). And Linux was and still is fragmented. This means that the financial support is fragmented too and now I think that you even have state support for some distros.

If you don't have enough big applications, you can't win the industrial space. It's like macOS and gaming or Linux and trading. People do try hard to get trading programs working on Linux and they complain like mad to software vendors but it falls on deaf ears or they tell you to roll it yourself.
 
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Microsoft confirms it will give the FBI your Windows PC data encryption key if asked — you can thank Windows 11's forced online accounts for that

Interesting, so because we are now forced to have online accounts, the encrpytion keys are available from MS, so the government has a back door to your data if they so desire
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The thing about Windows is that I have no interest in their online accounts as I don't like their services. iCloud, on the other hand, is something that I run my life on. The thing is that I'm careful with what I write and say in my iCloud applications. I can run my life on it and still be careful with things. Things that I want to remain private are on local, encrypted files. I've given the files to my wife and kids should I die unexpectedly and they need access to stuff.
 
pshufd said:
The thing about Windows is that I have no interest in their online accounts as I don't like their services. iCloud, on the other hand, is something that I run my life on. The thing is that I'm careful with what I write and say in my iCloud applications. I can run my life on it and still be careful with things. Things that I want to remain private are on local, encrypted files. I've given the files to my wife and kids should I die unexpectedly and they need access to stuff.
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I've had an Ms "account" since the hotmail days. It is hard to not have one and own an xbox since you cannot use any of the online stuff without it. I do think that MS needs to give better and more obvious reasons why "normal" users should want to have a MS account. They are going about it wrong (clearly). I presume folk will just start installing enterprise editions to get around the account requirement (and just deal with the activation watermark).
 
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I've had an Ms "account" since the hotmail days. It is hard to not have one and own an xbox since you cannot use any of the online stuff without it. I do think that MS needs to give better and more obvious reasons why "normal" users should want to have a MS account. They are going about it wrong (clearly). I presume folk will just start installing enterprise editions to get around the account requirement (and just deal with the activation watermark).
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I have a few of those too but they are used for specific purposes. One of them gets emails from a subscription service and I set up the account so that other family members could look at the data (I'd rather they do that instead of me forwarding emails). The thing is that there's always away to run Windows without an online account as it appears that Microsoft Engineers want to do it themselves.

Microsoft just has to make their services a lot more appealing if they want people to use them.
 
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pshufd said:
The thing about Windows is that I have no interest in their online accounts
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the problem is that MS is forcing you the consumer into that online account. There's still ways to have a local account but they're working over time time to close off those loopholes and work arounds.
 
maflynn said:
the problem is that MS is forcing you the consumer into that online account. There's still ways to have a local account but they're working over time time to close off those loopholes and work arounds.
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From what I can see, there are far more people that are hacking Windows 11 to work around it. It's pretty funny when I see a video that the "old" workaround doesn't work anymore and then a couple of hours later, there are a bunch of videos with the new workaround or new workarounds.

I think that this is why Apple stopped trying to block the Hackintosh movement - there is just a big, dedicated hacker base out there that likes a challenge.
 
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From what I can see, there are far more people that are hacking Windows 11 to work around it. It's pretty funny when I see a video that the "old" workaround doesn't work anymore and then a couple of hours later, there are a bunch of videos with the new workaround or new workarounds.

I think that this is why Apple stopped trying to block the Hackintosh movement - there is just a big, dedicated hacker base out there that likes a challenge.
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Apple doesn't have that many macOS developers. They can barely keep up fixing their own operating system, let alone worry about what other people are doing.
 
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From what I can see, there are far more people that are hacking Windows 11 to work around it. It's pretty funny when I see a video that the "old" workaround doesn't work anymore and then a couple of hours later, there are a bunch of videos with the new workaround or new workarounds.

I think that this is why Apple stopped trying to block the Hackintosh movement - there is just a big, dedicated hacker base out there that likes a challenge.
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A relative of mine had a modem phone thingee in his ugly-butt beige computer back in 1984
who reverts every windows update to their standards....probably since 1984.
this human prefers and has Firefox, newsgroups and other software Microsoft
wants to put on the back burner, or not at all as the default without the right click option or what ever one does.

seems to me windows has that open-ness  won't allow without complications.
 
My father uses Windows 11 since a weeks ago in a (brand) new Lenovo Notebook.

If you liked Windows 10 then 11 would be also fine. No critics here so far. Works and runs pretty well.
 
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